78s, in the blinds short handed, short stacked (2 Viewers)

[DrStrange]

Playing 1-2 live seven handed. It is very early in the night, maybe twenty minutes in the session. We have 13 players spread over two man tables. It is way too early for the night to take on a character.

As a reminder - the rules for this game set the opening buy-in at $60 with add-ons up to the amount of the largest stack. The stacks get really deep by the end of the night, but they don't start there. Truth is we get good mileage saying it is a $60 buy-in game.

Cast of Characters:

Crazy Jr is UTG playing $80. This Villain is a LAGtard, wildly unpredictable, capable of every kind of move imaginable. However, his judgement is poor with way too much air in his range. He also calls way too much with weak hands. This guy tends to be a big loser or big winner. Crazy Jr has a special love for winning Hero's chips. He also has a lot of battle scars from chasing Hero's chips. This makes him even more unpredictable when Hero is the main focus.

The button is a semi loose / semi loose player with $125. Almost TAG relative to the other villains. He is a marginally winning player, thinks highly of his game with some justification. He knows Crazy Jr. is the best source of chips at this table if only you have the courage to go get them.

Hero is the Big Blind playing $100. Absolutely nothing noteworthy about Hero tonight. Won a few pots, showed down the expected hands.

The hand:

Crazy Jr raises to $6 ($5 to $8 is normal for now.) Button calls. Everyone one else has folded. Action on Hero holding . Fold, call or raise, if raising how much?

Special note: Crazy Jr is calling most of the time if Hero shoves, even if playing any two garbage cards.

This isn't likely to take long -=- DrStrange

 

[MegaTon44]

Fold. It's easy to want to flat and see a flop, but with a medium/high SPR and a hand that really needs to smash the flop, probably not worth it against a LAGtard

Edit: This is a great hand in terms of IO if in position in a 4-5 handed pot, in which case I'd advocating seeing a flop. However, OOP with Crazy Jr in the hand, it seems too risky.

 

[moojersey]

Well I'm guessing you will at least call because there wouldn't be a thread otherwise lol. Honestly similar situation to the hand I posted. Probably should fold pre- flop with speculative hand and out of position. But that suited connector looks so tempting!

 

[courage]

Call. Let's stack somebody.

 

[detroitdad]

Call. Let's stack somebody.

Concur

 

[slisk250]

Me too. Call all day.

 

[AdamAAAA]

Call. Let's stack somebody.

As above

 

[Trihonda]

Calling. If you hit the flop hard. Hand is disquised, and you have good IO. In position I'm raising with this hand.

 

[ACE'S FULL]

I'm calling here, as others have said if you hit the flop you are getting all of the Villain's stack,

 

[DrStrange]

*** On to the flop ***

While hero has reservations about calling $4 more, he does call. (Yes I know it seems like a tiny thing, but that $4 call can lead to bigger trouble later.) $19 in the pot, three way action.

The flop:

Action on Hero, bet or check? If betting how much? If checking - are we planning a check raise or check call or check fold? { ok not a check fold }

Best guess is one of the two villains will bet if checked to. Crazy Jr will bet well over half the time, button would bet into two checks often enough as well.

DrStrange

 

[slisk250]

Normally I would bet 10. like the flush draw. Tempted to check and shove any bet made

 

[Forty4]

I just want to play small ball so right now I'm just check calling.

 

[MegaTon44]

Check call. Hero doesn't have a made hand yet. I wouldn't put fold equity high enough to blast.

 

[courage]

Calling pf OOP has a downside for suited connectors but we hit our dream flop. Chk-raise all in. We're a small fav vs pair/overpair.

 

[atomiktoaster]

Check call. If you want to play for stacks now, there's a good chance you lose the button anyway. Crazy Jr. will give you his stack even after the third heart is out, so why not wait until it's a done deal?

 

[BukNaked36]

Hero has 50 BB, Crazy is our likely target and only has 40 BB
Pot is $19
Gotta think we have 14 outs

Check raise sounds sexy but I like a bet. $10 or less looks like we're milking a draw

I bet $15 to represent protecting a Q

Happy to get it in with Crazy
Would have to think a little about a raise from button

 

[onerand]

Agree with courage

 

[thorwilliam]

Seems like a good spot to check raise.

 

[DrStrange]

*** well, that wasn't what Hero expected ***

Hero checks, planning a check raise.

Crazy Jr bets $10. Button raises to $35 total. Action on Hero - fold, call or all-in?

DrStrange

 

[thorwilliam]

I would jam.

 

[ACE'S FULL]

Calling pf OOP has a downside for suited connectors but we hit our dream flop. Chk-raise all in. We're a small fav vs pair/overpair.

I like this way of thinking. Specially given the idea of the stacks getting bigger as the night wears on.

 

[Trihonda]

Jammy jam time

 

[BukNaked36]

Push and hope they both come along.

Stacks are relatively small. No sense calling preflop if we're not up for this action.

 

[courage]

Lots of cards (mainly hearts) kill our action and we wanna see all 5 cards, which is partly why I don't like chk call on flop. If a brick hits are we folding to an all in on turn?

Button could be picking off Crazy Jr, but even if he has dominating flush draw we have blockers and a pair. I vote get it in.

 

[detroitdad]

I would jam.

Jammy jam time

Push and hope they both come along.

I vote get it in.

 

[slisk250]

From all the way across the long end of the table with @Ben 's arms. I'm jamming. (luv ya SOP champ!)

 

[DrStrange]

*** Results ***

Not much discussion, though Hero pondered a bit at the table.

Hero jams. Crazy Jr has to be talked into calling, but eventually does. Button's chips catch fire from friction as he jams them into the pot.

Crazy tables
Button tables
Hero has

Board runs out < > No waiting! I like it.

Hero actually had 40% of the equity, but lots of times he would have been closer to half the equity. And on rare occasions, Hero is drawing almost dead.

DrStrange

 

[moojersey]

I think this is a spot where knowing your villains becomes especially important.

QJ, J7, Q7 all seem like hands at least 1 villain will have with this type of action. Naked Q's and J's also possible.

Crazy Jr. Can have air just stabbing at the pot. I'm more concerned about the Button. I think Crazy Jr. Is going to let it go.

Even if the button villain has 2 pair we still have 35% equity with our mid flush draw. We also have bottom pair against AhXh

I don't think a jam is terrible but if we want to get it in I want 2 to 1 on my money. I want Crazy Jr. To over call this flop.

I say flat the $35 see if Crazy Jr. calls or jams. We're calling his jam and jamming the turn to induce more over calls.

If a made 2 pair is still live OTT ... We still have like 30% equity going into the river.

 

[moojersey]

I guess the question becomes do you want to get your stack in with this hand? I think Hero is behind at the moment but you have like 51% equity versus 1 pair hands.

 

[atomiktoaster]

As much as I said check-call, with a bet and raise behind it quickly turned into check-jam for me.