Those sorta look like CPC / ASM colors. DG = Dayglow, I presume. That hundo is sick! Love to have just a sample set of those chips.
Jetons and plaques are B&GAbsolutely! So who is A.B.P. who made these chips? European company? Are they compressed clay?
So to put you in the database he needs a count. Maybe tomorrow when you're sober...
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Pics?Palais des Congres: 1300 chips.
I'm a dummy. Up above by the chip pics it says Burt. They were bought by ASM, right?Those sorta look like CPC / ASM colors. DG = Dayglow, I presume. That hundo is sick! Love to have just a sample set of those chips.
give me your totals pleaseJetons and plaques are B&G
Pics?
... basically. The Burt Company became Atlantic Standard Molding which became American Standard Molding which became Classic Poker Chips. Throughout the various changes of names and ownership, the method of chip production remained the same, so that the CPC chips you get today are more-or-less identical to the vintage casino clays from the fifties and sixties.Up above by the chip pics it says Burt. They were bought by ASM, right?
A.B.P. is the customer; The Burt Company made the chips.So who is A.B.P. who made these chips?
Fantastic write up! Thanks Eddie!!!A.B.P. is the customer; The Burt Company made the chips.
"A.B.P. (Casino Supplies) Limited" was the name of one of many distributors of chips manufactured by Burt / ASM. Like most such distributors, they had their own mold that was restricted to their own use - in this case, the Scroll mold, which you can see on the chips shown on The ChipGuide.
ABP was based in London, so it's perhaps not surprising that Aspinall used them and the Scroll mold. According to Howard Hertz: "Although this mold was developed for use in American style gaming checks, it is was primarily sold in Europe, Africa, Asia and not in the United States."
The company was known as "A.B.P. (Casino Supplies) Limited" from 21 July 1961 through 01 July 1986. They were then known as "A.B.P./Jaymers Limited" until the company was dissolved on 12 January 2010.
ABP themselves had a Spanish distributor known as Hispania - "ABP España-Iserco" or "Hispania Casino Suppliers" or "Hispania Casino Equipment". Hispania also had some chip production equipment, including the Scroll mold, and manufactured chips on their own. I'm not sure how they came to have that equipment, which must have been substantially similar to the equipment that Burt / ASM / CPC had. The Hispania equipment was purchased by Nevada Jacks in 2008; NJ was already producing custom ceramic chips, and they intended to use the Hispania equipment to start offering custom clays, but they never did. NJ later sold the Hispania equipment to Palm Gaming (PGI). PGI intended to start offering custom clays, but they never did. ABC Gifts and Awards later bought the Nevada Jacks assets, and then later still bought the PGI assets, including the old Hispania chip-making equipment. Like NJ and PGI, ABC has yet to start producing clay chips using the Hispania equipment.
Apparently, Joe Daley from Palm Gaming later was selling the Hispania Scroll mold cups and clay recipes, but it's not clear if they were ever sold or to whom.
CPC still offers Scroll mold chips, so Burt / ASM / CPC has probably had access to a set of Scroll mold cups all along, independently of the cups that had been in the possession of Hispania et al.
References:
- A.B.P. (Casino Supplies) Ltd. & Jaymers Ltd. casino chip collection in an album
- UK Government company records for A.B.P./Jaymers Limited
- Hispania Casino Equipment company information
- Clay Chip Manufacturers and Distributors by Howard W. Herz
- NJ buys the Hispania assets, intends to make clay chips
- BG's post about Hispania, NJ, PGI, and ABC
- PCF spots Joe Daley's ebay ad for the Hispania Scroll mold cups and clay recipes
Wow.
He commissioned a bust of Lord Lucan, a close friend of Aspinall who disappeared in November 1974, after the murder of Sandra Rivett, the nanny of Lucan's children. It remains prominently displayed.
In 1976 Goldsmith initiated a libel action against the satirical magazine Private Eye, which had alleged that members of the Clermont Set, including Goldsmith, had conspired to shelter Lord Lucan after Lucan was suspected of murdering his family nanny, Sandra Rivett.
He was an Anglo-Irish aristocrat, the eldest son of George Bingham, 6th Earl of Lucan by his wife Kaitlin Dawson. Having developed a taste for gambling, he played backgammon and bridge, and was an early member of the Clermont Club. Lucan's losses often exceeded his winnings, yet he left his job at a London-based merchant bank and became a professional gambler. He was known for his expensive tastes; he raced power boats and drove an Aston Martin.
After the marriage collapsed in late 1972, he moved out to a nearby property. A bitter custody battle ensued, which Lucan eventually lost. Apparently obsessed with regaining custody of the children, Lucan began to spy on his wife and record their telephone conversations. This fixation, combined with mounting legal expenses and gambling losses, had a dramatic effect on Lucan's life and personal finances.
On the evening of 7 November 1974, Sandra Rivett, the nanny of Lucan's children, was bludgeoned to death in the kitchen of the Lucan family home. Lady Lucan was also attacked after going to investigate Rivett's whereabouts. She identified Lord Lucan as her assailant. Lucan had, by then, driven to visit a friend in Uckfield, East Sussex.[1] Lucan then telephoned his mother and asked her to collect his children, saying there had been an incident at the family home; he also penned a letter.[1] His car was later found abandoned in Newhaven, its interior stained with blood and its boot containing a piece of bandaged lead pipe similar to one found at the crime scene. By the time the police issued a warrant for his arrest a few days later, Lucan had vanished.
No idea.So Steve only has the jetons and plaques from Aspinall's. Do you know if any of the clay chips survived?
@ktran , those plaques were made by Bourgogne et Grasset, who make jetons and plaques for casinos. B&G plaques are the very best available, and you can't get your own customs from them like you can from Abbiati or Matsui; they only sell to casinos.
The ones that @chipinla has were made for John Aspinall, who ran illegal games for high rollers. There's a fascinating history behind them, which you can read about here: http://www.marlowcasinochips.com/obsolete/aspinalls.htm
I'm extremely envious of those plaques.
done
ovo adds some new sets
are they black bart roulette ?Let's find the Black Bart hoards... 660, well 700, just can't find the two barrels I was messing with
Found them...roulette quarters case for rebuys
Sorry for confusion cash set...nothing currently on the list. Black Bart Casino (Bud Jones)are they black bart roulette ?
I yield to the KING!Dragonara Malta (Lg. Greek Key and jetons/plaques) these all were used at the same time in the casino. As I recall, plaques and jetons baccarat and roulette. Chips for blackjack.
Plaques:
5000 - 25
1000 - 57
500 - 40
100 - 110
= 232 plaques
Jetons:
50 - 125
25 - 130
10 - 129
5 - 125
=509 jetons
Lg. Greek Key
5£ ‐ 509
1£ - 609
50p - 197
25p - 3
10p - 232
=1550 Lg. Greek Key
= 2291 pieces
Where is this?Let's find the Black Bart hoards... 660, well 700, just can't find the two barrels I was messing with
Found them...roulette quarters case for rebuys
What do you mean? The casino...It was in Willits, CA. Google says it's now Sherwood Valley. I bought these during a chiproom sale back in 2012 (I think).Where is this?
$1 | White | 700 |
$2.00 | Light Blue | 210 |
$2.50 | Pink | 100 |
$5 | Red Mint | 740 |
$8 | Red/Gold 43mm | 19 |
$25 | Green Secondary | 1880 |
$100 | Black Secondary | 1610 |
$500 | Purple Primary Mint | 200 |
$500 | Purple Secondary | 660 |
$1,000 | Orange Primary | 501 |
$1,000 | Orange Secondary | 115 |
$5,000 | Grey Primary | 206 |
$25,000 | Blue Primary | 47 |
Total | 6988 |
Damn, you trying to reopen the casino?Jack Cincinnati
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Official count:
$1 White 700 $2.00 Light Blue 210 $2.50 Pink 100 $5 Red Mint 740 $8 Red/Gold 43mm 19 $25 Green Secondary 1880 $100 Black Secondary 1610 $500 Purple Primary Mint 200 $500 Purple Secondary 660 $1,000 Orange Primary 501 $1,000 Orange Secondary 115 $5,000 Grey Primary 206 $25,000 Blue Primary 47 Total 6988
Unofficial: 25¢ Grey (Red Rock $1) - 200
You want moar pr0n? Ok....
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@Carnth That’s crazy!!! Awesome set! Great work.Damn, you trying to reopen the casino?
sorry, can you clarify exactly what you got , thanks, BB and sheratonSorry for confusion cash set...nothing currently on the list. Black Bart Casino (Bud Jones)
The Roulettes are Sheraton Tunica BJs I've got about 1200+ of them, so they could also be added.
Not even a full barrel of the $8 chips??? Rookie!Jack Cincinnati
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Official count:
$1 White 700 $2.00 Light Blue 210 $2.50 Pink 100 $5 Red Mint 740 $8 Red/Gold 43mm 19 $25 Green Secondary 1880 $100 Black Secondary 1610 $500 Purple Primary Mint 200 $500 Purple Secondary 660 $1,000 Orange Primary 501 $1,000 Orange Secondary 115 $5,000 Grey Primary 206 $25,000 Blue Primary 47 Total 6988
Unofficial: 25¢ Grey (Red Rock $1) - 200
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