Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (62 Viewers)
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And in fact the game of poker evolved and became wildly popular in the pre-indices era.
However, corner indices are a very different innovation. They allow you to peek at your cards without having to view the whole face. We should salute the unknown genius who came up with the idea.
By contrast, you *don’t* have to hold a chip up to your face to read the denom to know what it is worth. You can (a) remember 3-4 colors when first told and/or (b) infer their value from how everyone else is using them.
So, bad analogy. Indices are not extraneous; denoms are.
Assigning a different value than is printed on the chip is just insane and asking for trouble.
One host being stupid is the exception which proves the rule.
dar24601
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Like what was thought process here. Could have left the green as 25 then all other denoms x10, reds 50, blues 500, blacks 1000. Still begs question what game were you playing that these values made sense
10 chips does not constitute a shuffle stack. A shuffle stack is a barrel. If the chips can't be shuffled into a barrel then they aren't worth shuffling.
My hands are small
I can only comfortable shuffle 18
My hands are small
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The one time upNdown complained for a good reason
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I'd vote for upNdown for president. Well maybe not that far, but I would ABSOLUTELY vote to put him in charge or something. Idc if it's the PTA or HOA or city government, it'd get better with a little bit of uNd.
People may not always agree with his complaints, but generally people are wrong.
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Custom-theme relabel sets appear to mostly be a thing of the past outside of like two LA members and that is muff cabbage sucks.
(I'd say that's not controversial but seeing as they're just not happening, it has to be to some extent.)
(I'd say that's not controversial but seeing as they're just not happening, it has to be to some extent.)
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which is FU***ING CRAZY.
Everyone goes on about “I could make the best set if I could order from Paulson”.
Like bro. There’s hundreds of thousands of chips out there. You need 3-6 denoms. Use existing chips and build an all time great cohesive set.
My top 20 fav samples or sets include probably 10 relabel sets. I wish other creative and customs folk like Quicksilver, kifer, eloe, jeep, etc. had a strong relabel phase.
I’m not googling muff cabbage.
I'd love to do a custom paulson relabel set. I'd need a tournament set, and the darn yellow/orange chips in bulk, decent condition, and decent price (I am cheap MF'er) are darn near impossible. Especially when you need about 2000-2300 chips to make the set "playable"
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I hate the two decks on the table. If people practiced proper shuffling you wouldn’t need to clutter the table with two decks.
When it comes down to it a really well done relabeled Paulson is still very sexy and just as good or better than any labeled ceramic hybrid. But my favorite way I’ve seen chips recommissioned are some of the restamp jobs @Josh Kifer has done. Those are damn sexy.
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I remember back in the day when I had the fever dream of an all white set 
(ooc)
Not for playing really, but just to build a crazy stupid cash set of all white base denoms in case like Diddy invites me to an all white party.
Then there was the Andy Warhol type set I wanted to build that had a fully diff type for each denom - ihc, thc, rhc, bcc, housemold, etc.
But nooooooooooooo those are crazy. “Where’s the usability, the spot progression, the cohesion!?” they said.
And then mfers spend out the nose for Detroit Jacks.
(ooc)Not for playing really, but just to build a crazy stupid cash set of all white base denoms in case like Diddy invites me to an all white party.
Then there was the Andy Warhol type set I wanted to build that had a fully diff type for each denom - ihc, thc, rhc, bcc, housemold, etc.
But nooooooooooooo those are crazy. “Where’s the usability, the spot progression, the cohesion!?” they said.
And then mfers spend out the nose for Detroit Jacks.
Just when you think people are crazy for paying Tiger Palace prices, Rio WSOP chips scream ‘Hold my Beer’. Freaking insane!
Poker Zombie
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I don't know the prices being paid, but at least the RIO chips have some history...
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As with every nagb, everyone will have an opinion and repeat it ad naseum.
I don’t want to post in the buy thread, so I’ll ask the question here. It’s early, so my mind can be changed. But I’m SUPER curious what people think.
I never bought an nagb. AS and boat ones in general were pretty cool. I like their look a lot, but just never thought of purchasing any.
Then there were the ones like the SBs. Which looked like they were made explicitly as individual chips to be desired and murdered for use.
Lastly, something like RPC and Tiger which looked to be made to be used together as they were sold, and these scratch my itch a touch more than boat chips, but that’s just personal difference in tastes. (Oh and I LOVE BTPs too!).
Long story short, I see the point of all of those and the intent.
These I’m very confused on. The set as it is looks…..like something I would make in my first chipping years. Yellow frac blue 1 red 5 green 25 black 100. Subjectively I can’t stand this color selection, and is why I threw away my first tiger set immediately after using it once - lifelong poker players kept almost making wrong bets and miscounting stacks at first glance due to the mishmash (and that was just with yellow fracs, not the blue 1s).
Spot progression for every set makes no sense, but maybe I can be corrected here because I don’t necessarily have an eye for design.
Okay, so maybe I’m right. The cash colors don’t make sense, the spot patterns clash, etc. But the colors! Look at that bright trimoon, 8v blacks, etc. They’re built to be murdered!!! Okay…..then why the f**k are they hotstamps? Don’t they have to be murdered to be useful then? Or can you over label an intact hotstamp (most people’s choice to retain chip value)?
They don’t appear to be used as is, and they don’t appear to be built to be split and reused.
Now the price point I can get behind! $560 per rack for the cash set. That’s not small by any means, but not huge either. I guess the price point makes these a bit more likely to be murdered and utilized.
Regardless, I’m ALWAYS a big fan of MOAR chips to the market and thankful to the chip vault for bringing them, as I am with Jim, Ken, etc. I may even be a buyer! But…..definitely not personally in love, and more to the point, I just don’t get the point.
Maybe design choice was limited, but these to me look like a casino made them, not a chipper/designer.
I don’t want to post in the buy thread, so I’ll ask the question here. It’s early, so my mind can be changed. But I’m SUPER curious what people think.
I never bought an nagb. AS and boat ones in general were pretty cool. I like their look a lot, but just never thought of purchasing any.
Then there were the ones like the SBs. Which looked like they were made explicitly as individual chips to be desired and murdered for use.
Lastly, something like RPC and Tiger which looked to be made to be used together as they were sold, and these scratch my itch a touch more than boat chips, but that’s just personal difference in tastes. (Oh and I LOVE BTPs too!).
Long story short, I see the point of all of those and the intent.
These I’m very confused on. The set as it is looks…..like something I would make in my first chipping years. Yellow frac blue 1 red 5 green 25 black 100. Subjectively I can’t stand this color selection, and is why I threw away my first tiger set immediately after using it once - lifelong poker players kept almost making wrong bets and miscounting stacks at first glance due to the mishmash (and that was just with yellow fracs, not the blue 1s).
Spot progression for every set makes no sense, but maybe I can be corrected here because I don’t necessarily have an eye for design.
Okay, so maybe I’m right. The cash colors don’t make sense, the spot patterns clash, etc. But the colors! Look at that bright trimoon, 8v blacks, etc. They’re built to be murdered!!! Okay…..then why the f**k are they hotstamps? Don’t they have to be murdered to be useful then? Or can you over label an intact hotstamp (most people’s choice to retain chip value)?
They don’t appear to be used as is, and they don’t appear to be built to be split and reused.
Now the price point I can get behind! $560 per rack for the cash set. That’s not small by any means, but not huge either. I guess the price point makes these a bit more likely to be murdered and utilized.
Regardless, I’m ALWAYS a big fan of MOAR chips to the market and thankful to the chip vault for bringing them, as I am with Jim, Ken, etc. I may even be a buyer! But…..definitely not personally in love, and more to the point, I just don’t get the point.
Maybe design choice was limited, but these to me look like a casino made them, not a chipper/designer.
AlbinoDragon
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That's effectively the standard Vegas color scheme which is why it's used so frequently.
You might not be able to stand that selection, but it's tradition.
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And just to put my money where my mouth is, I’ve already purchased sample and DB to support the nagb efforts. Maybe the chips in person will blow me away, but I don’t see the use.
And from my texts and pms, so far it appears not does anyone else.
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Ah! Than I’m wrong!
I’m used to blue $1 being Cali and white $1 being Vegas. Maybe that’s historical? I’m not a great chipper when it comes to that knowledge.
To me it looked like a cali lower half, Vegas upper half.
The most disappointing news here is that they are limited edition.
I was hoping for a situation where someone finally got Angel to crack and allow a continuous flow of chips.
Imagine a world where mint THC can be had in unlimited quantity for $3/chip or whatever it is.
I was hoping for a situation where someone finally got Angel to crack and allow a continuous flow of chips.
Imagine a world where mint THC can be had in unlimited quantity for $3/chip or whatever it is.
Understood.. In reality, it is more likely that Angel discontinues the use of the THC.
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I asked a couple folks on this. I get it that a Blue $1 is becoming more popular in Vegas.
If I had to take a wild guess, those rooms aren’t spreading .50/.50 games though. There is no frac.
So while blue/red/green/black may be one of two standards (with white 1s being the other and still extremely prevalent), introducing the Blue $1 while also having stacks of yellow chips and in the splashed pots just screams issues (just to me, because almost every chip set I see with Blue and Yellow has them as 1s and 5s).
Maybe everyone else’s games are either 1) more sober or 2) just use to it, but imo yellow/blue/red/green/black is a mix of 2 historical standards that doesn’t play well.
RED $5, GREEN $25 AND BLACK $100 ARE EXACTLY WHAT JESUS INTENDED!
I feel like this color combo is what I have seen many pron shots of on this forum:
Yellow fracs, Adolfos, Casas, Green $25s, Black $100s
And I think it looks awesome!
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IM NOT DISAGREEING.
JFC PEOPLE, IM SAYING THAT A YELLOW FRAC AND BLUE $1 MAKES NO SENSE.
SOMEMONE ANSER THAT SOECIFICALLY L
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