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Custom artwork group buy. US/CAN CARDS MOLD (8 Viewers)

TX_Golf_N_Poker said:
No offense, but to each their own. I don't hate it, but personally would prefer something that is more unique or hasn't been done yet.

@ReallyGoodUsername have you seen this thread: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/polyclay-custom-molds.56544/

Some interesting ideas here. I really like the list of conditions set out by @BGinGA especially an attempt to get a chip with sharper edges. Although he wants to do a hybrid style chip with a laminated center label. And is leaning towards using Sun-Fly. So this is going to end up being a higher end item, not the no-brainer, bottom basement pricing we have here with Cards mold. I think there could be room for both - a higher end hybrid chip and a lower priced polyclay chip, both with new custom molds.
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Sharp edges? Take ALL my money
 
TX_Golf_N_Poker said:
It's being explored. See my link in the above post.
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But that’s only the Sunflys you are talking about right?

It’s not the mold that I am that excited about. It would just be slightly more interesting. I am definitely 100% minty clay kind of guy. It is 100% the price point of these that makes them interesting to me and why I may buy another couple sets once I have the first in hand. I would rather pay $3-4 for THCs than $.60 for anything else. It’s once you are at around the $.30 that I get very very interested. That just happens to cross into my impulse buy territory. I might buy 4 sets of these Cards mold chips but wouldn’t buy any Sunflys at $.60. Honestly, I suspect there are a lot of others in that same boat with me.
 
Eloe2000 said:
But that’s only the Sunflys you are talking about right?

It’s not the mold that I am that excited about. It would just be slightly more interesting. I am definitely 100% minty clay kind of guy. It is 100% the price point of these that makes them interesting to me and why I may buy another couple sets once I have the first in hand. I would rather pay $3-4 for THCs than $.60 for anything else. It’s once you are at around the $.30 that I get very very interested. I might buy 4 sets of these Cards mold chips but wouldn’t buy any Sunflys at $.60. Honestly, I suspect there are a lot of others in that same boat with me.
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+10000000 - plus I oddly don't like the sunflys everyone loves. Maybe if they had matte edges and better color I could get behind them.
 
TX_Golf_N_Poker said:
No offense, but to each their own. I don't hate it, but personally would prefer something that is more unique or hasn't been done yet.
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That's fair, but for those of us (like yours truly) who will never pay the necessary price to acquire either the CPC or TRK chips, I think a small crown mold would be a popular choice for cheap ceramics. Plus, it's a much simpler design than some of those I have seen in the thread you referred to. And lots of room in the center for artwork.
 
Eloe2000 said:
But that’s only the Sunflys you are talking about right?

It’s not the mold that I am that excited about. It would just be slightly more interesting. I am definitely 100% minty clay kind of guy. It is 100% the price point of these that makes them interesting to me and why I may buy another couple sets once I have the first in hand. I would rather pay $3-4 for THCs than $.60 for anything else. It’s once you are at around the $.30 that I get very very interested. I might buy 4 sets of these Cards mold chips but wouldn’t buy any Sunflys at $.60. Honestly, I suspect there are a lot of others in that same boat with me.
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You're gonna need a big boat. .30 fully custom I'm there. Beyond that, heck I can get used Paulson's or stamped TRKs for a buck a pop. Or a super nice set at $3 a chip that'll hold value.

Spend $1k on a custom sunfly set that won't hold it's value and I'll have to sell at a loss later....maybe I try it once down the road when I know I have a keeper, just to have one.
 
Eloe2000 said:
Actually, even blind testing my nonPCF players they all prefer ceramics (ABC) next THC over RHC, BJ, CPC, etc.
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I once bought a Bud Jones set and tried to get it in play after already spoiling my players with premium THC and this happened

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Eloe2000 said:
Actually, even blind testing my nonPCF players they all prefer ceramics (ABC) next THC over RHC, BJ, CPC, etc.
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I have also done this ... ceramics are very popular for the casual player. The only players at my home game who prefer clay chips are those who have played with clay chips at casinos.
 
SteveHNo96 said:
29c a chip + shipping? So these are basically China Clay/ Scroll ceramic quality?

Interesting. Normally I use the quality of ABC/ BRPro ceramic or higher but LMK how they hold up with regular use and I'll look into it.

I only went with Sun-fly for my custom set because 1) the price was livable, 2) apparently even though they are light chips they can withstand a lot (except apparently a 500 pound man slamming his fist on the table or a hammer taken to it) and 3) I wasn't going to be playing treasure hunter for 3-4 years to get a set going.
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Just to be clear, the 29 cents is an all-in price from China. It includes shipping to the US, fees, tariffs (if any?) bank transfer fees, etc. Sean built all of that into the final price of production. So all that's left is the cost of getting them from Sean to final purchaser.

Regarding quality. you can review the production photos being posted here, and see the responses from the Euro customers who have already had their orders delivered. To a man (or woman?) I believe everyone has been thrilled with the quality for this price. Obviously these are not at the level of real clay or high end ceramics from US producers. But they clearly seem to not be junk either. I feel we are getting great value for the cost. Especially once you factor in that these are fully custom designs.

Also, this is not Sean's first order from this manufacturer. He already has a set or two of these that (I assume) are seeing play in his games in Omaha. So maybe he will weigh in as to how they are holding up in play.
 
and that price is for the more expensive card mold chips. You ould get he regular custom ceramics even cheaper with a large amount of chips.
 
Eloe2000 said:
But that’s only the Sunflys you are talking about right?

It’s not the mold that I am that excited about. It would just be slightly more interesting. I am definitely 100% minty clay kind of guy. It is 100% the price point of these that makes them interesting to me and why I may buy another couple sets once I have the first in hand. I would rather pay $3-4 for THCs than $.60 for anything else. It’s once you are at around the $.30 that I get very very interested. That just happens to cross into my impulse buy territory. I might buy 4 sets of these Cards mold chips but wouldn’t buy any Sunflys at $.60. Honestly, I suspect there are a lot of others in that same boat with me.
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According to Dave's last post in that thread where I asked that question, he has not committed absolutely to Sun-Fly, but he does want a chip with a laminated label. What I'm saying is I think there is room for both. What Dave wants on a custom mold, that's probably going to wind up around 50-60 cents a chip, AND what we're doing here on the polyclay chip, but also on a custom mold, bumping the price up to maybe 35-40 cents a chip.
 
Himewad said:
That's fair, but for those of us (like yours truly) who will never pay the necessary price to acquire either the CPC or TRK chips, I think a small crown mold would be a popular choice for cheap ceramics. Plus, it's a much simpler design than some of those I have seen in the thread you referred to. And lots of room in the center for artwork.
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Man, I bet we could almost get more than one mold!

I'll put in order in on a:

Diamond mold of some sort - Diamond in the Rough Tourney Set (Agrabah)
Crown mold (scrown or whatever) - Excalibur Tourney Set (Weapons/Item Loot box with canonical item colors white/green/blue/purple/gold/etc.)
Varied Shapes or T mold type - Cash Shy Klown Set (Each denom with diff clown, a la 7 dwarfs)
Crest mold - Cash Keelhauler Set (Pirate set with a different focus, the varied corporal punishment at sea back then - also mascot of Cal Maritime College)

If we do letter molds:
B mold - Bourbon Bill's Gamblin Hall and Saloon
F mold - Flamenco/Flamingo Cash Set (play off flamingo and winged chips, but using bright colors from Flamenco dancer dress colors)

And perhaps even a......house mold "Barrie" set. Wonder what it costs for my own personal mold created.....
 
BarrieJ3 said:
Man, I bet we could almost get more than one mold!

I'll put in order in on a:

Diamond mold of some sort - Diamond in the Rough Tourney Set (Agrabah)
Crown mold (scrown or whatever) - Excalibur Tourney Set (Weapons/Item Loot box with canonical item colors white/green/blue/purple/gold/etc.)
Varied Shapes or T mold type - Cash Shy Klown Set (Each denom with diff clown, a la 7 dwarfs)
Crest mold - Cash Keelhauler Set (Pirate set with a different focus, the varied corporal punishment at sea back then - also mascot of Cal Maritime College)

If we do letter molds:
B mold - Bourbon Bill's Gamblin Hall and Saloon
F mold - Flamenco/Flamingo Cash Set (play off flamingo and winged chips, but using bright colors from Flamenco dancer dress colors)

And perhaps even a......house mold "Barrie" set. Wonder what it costs for my own personal mold created.....
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I think it’s 3k or so
 
this same vendor may very well already have the diamond mold blanks to go along with the card mold
 
Himewad said:
Is there still time to put a little extra on the ol' home mortgage loan?
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No doubt. Although she watched one package after another of chips arriving at the air BnBs, I think she would've divorced me on the spot if I asked for some of the leftover money for chips.

I think she felt like the Dursley's when they were trying to keep the Hogwarts letters from Harry, the boxes even followed us to the next air bnb.
 
Darson said:
At $3k for a mold, you're looking at 300,000 chips to get to a nice 1c per chip markup. I would not want to run that group buy!
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I guess who owns the mold (or at least the use rights) after its made? If Tina Co. does then yeah you'd have to have it covered upfront or else anyone who wanted to could get it for free on their own. If use is restricted by the buyer of the mold though you could just tax every chip 0.01 going forward. It'll get paid back eventually and then they'd make some $ for their "investment" time? Idk idk no perfect plan I guess
 
TX_Golf_N_Poker said:
Just to be clear, the 29 cents is an all-in price from China. It includes shipping to the US, fees, tariffs (if any?) bank transfer fees, etc. Sean built all of that into the final price of production. So all that's left is the cost of getting them from Sean to final purchaser.

Regarding quality. you can review the production photos being posted here, and see the responses from the Euro customers who have already had their orders delivered. To a man (or woman?) I believe everyone has been thrilled with the quality for this price. Obviously these are not at the level of real clay or high end ceramics from US producers. But they clearly seem to not be junk either. I feel we are getting great value for the cost. Especially once you factor in that these are fully custom designs.

Also, this is not Sean's first order from this manufacturer. He already has a set or two of these that (I assume) are seeing play in his games in Omaha. So maybe he will weigh in as to how they are holding up in play.
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I would like to hear how it holds up on regular wear and tear. Any custom set has to last for years so ppl will say wow both now and 10 years from now.
 
TX_Golf_N_Poker said:
Just to be clear, the 29 cents is an all-in price from China. It includes shipping to the US, fees, tariffs (if any?) bank transfer fees, etc. Sean built all of that into the final price of production. So all that's left is the cost of getting them from Sean to final purchaser.

Regarding quality. you can review the production photos being posted here, and see the responses from the Euro customers who have already had their orders delivered. To a man (or woman?) I believe everyone has been thrilled with the quality for this price. Obviously these are not at the level of real clay or high end ceramics from US producers. But they clearly seem to not be junk either. I feel we are getting great value for the cost. Especially once you factor in that these are fully custom designs.

Also, this is not Sean's first order from this manufacturer. He already has a set or two of these that (I assume) are seeing play in his games in Omaha. So maybe he will weigh in as to how they are holding up in play.
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FYI - some things need to be clarified (bolded).

1) Tariffs are not built in to the price. However, someone posted a customs document that seemed to show that poker chips would be exempt.

2) We will still need to reimburse Sean for bank transfer fees. I believe he mentioned he would add it to the reship costs so people don't have to send payment multiple times.
 
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