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Future of Paulson Fantasy Sets (3 Viewers)

dennis63 said:
After all, we only want what we can't have, and if we ever get it, we don't want it anymore.
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Look at prices now compared to when Jim was pumping us a new set every other month for confirmation :)
 
The interesting thing is that we know so much about exactly how these chips are made. (I've even seen the whole process in person at ASM.) But we still can't make a compression molded clay chip -- something they had down 100 years ago.

It reminds me of the time a group of Chip talk members talked seriously about buying ASM'S equipment. Even with the equipment and the recipe and materials, they felt they would not be able to match the quality and operate the business successfully.

A good chip really is a work of art.
 
Has anyone here actually tried compression molding clay and maybe even using a fire kiln?

I can't imagine that one of us hasn't tried it.
 
Chip clay isn't the "Adobe / Dirt / Pottery clay" ,it is an amalgam of a soft thermoplastic base, mixed with colorants, mineral, & other ingredients to form a "dough" that is pressed with the heat & pressure to form a chip ...
or .. you could always refer to this to help make your own clay chips :

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/new-clay-chip-mfgr.19408/#post-353178
 
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Blaster said:
Chip clay isn't the "Adobe / Dirt / Pottery clay" ,it is an amalgam of a soft thermoplastic base, mixed with colorants, mineral, & other ingredients to form a "dough" that is pressed with the heat & pressure to form a chip ...
or .. you could always refer to this to help make your own clay chips :

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/new-clay-chip-mfgr.19408/#post-353178
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The funny part is that I started reading that and was excited for a second and then realized that you was just pulling my leg.

Still, I'll head down to target and see if they have any thermoplastic bases I can snatch up
 
MD Mike said:
How did it work out?

I'm thinking of hitting up Joe Anns and getting some clay tonight ;)
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It is possible. The clay from JoAnns doesn't get hard enough. I actually made trays/molds and pressed the clay into each hole and had a rubber mold/press made and was able to incorporate edgespots.
Anyways, with the right material I think it's possible. The material/clay I used was too pliable/rubbery but there no height/stack issues :)

I'll hunt for my thread on CT and repost here. If anything it's amusing but may inspire someone else.
 
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In Indiana, it seems pretty easy to get a charity casino license. I wonder if that is enough to call GPI and put in an order?
 
FDLmold said:
In Indiana, it seems pretty easy to get a charity casino license. I wonder if that is enough to call GPI and put in an order?
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Worth an email. Ask if they will make you a custom licensed charity casino set - IF YES let us know, likely many here would help fund it.
 
I would guess that if I got a charity casino license, and GPI would take an order, I would not have to worry about whether my chips got funded or not.
 
I have to admit, I'm over here laughing quite a bit. I can just see GPI saying something like, "You know, we've never had a 4-table charity casino in Indiana, that's only open 3 days a week, order 175,000 chips before."
 
Wow totally forgot about this first attempt. Not great but not hideous either:
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/threads/home-made-poker-chips-pics-added.77360/

Then:
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/threads/homemade-poker-chips-part-2.77567/

I know i made some chips with the hammer and chisel mold but I can't find the pronage....in fact sadly I can't fine the mold or aluminum tray.

But I think with a simplified process and right material a set a custom solid with mold, crosshatching and recess for inlay/sticker is very VERY possible.
 
MD Mike said:
Has anyone here actually tried compression molding clay and maybe even using a fire kiln?
I can't imagine that one of us hasn't tried it.
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Meddler2 said:
Yes....sorta
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Before even reading the rest of @Meddler2's posts here, his 2 word answer conveyed so much.

@Meddler2, I'd be interested to check out your old thread and read the history behind this story, if you can find it to share. [Edit - you beat me to it. Thanks!]
 
Meddler2 said:
Wow totally forgot about this first attempt. Not great but not hideous either:
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/threads/home-made-poker-chips-pics-added.77360/

Then:
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/threads/homemade-poker-chips-part-2.77567/

I know i made some chips with the hammer and chisel mold but I can't find the pronage....in fact sadly I can't fine the mold or aluminum tray.

But I think with a simplified process and right material a set a custom solid with mold, crosshatching and recess for inlay/sticker is very VERY possible.
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Thanks for the links... that is very very VERY cool stuff you did there! (y) :thumbsup:

Mind sharing your clay formula? :cool:
 
justsomedude said:
Thanks for the links... that is very very VERY cool stuff you did there! (y) :thumbsup:

Mind sharing your clay formula? :cool:
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nothing special Just some from JoAnns and Michaels. Don't remmber what it was called but did not require a kiln; just oven. Never quite got hard enough.
 
I just grabbed this from the Indiana Gaming Commission website. This does not seem difficult at all.

WHO CAN CONDUCT CHARITY GAMING IN INDIANA?

Only a qualified organization can conduct charitable gaming in the State of Indiana.

A qualified organization is:

(1) a bona fide religious, educational, senior citizens, veterans, or civic organization operating in Indiana that:
(A) operates without profit to the organization's members;
(B) is exempt from taxation under Section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code; and
(C) has been continuously in existence in Indiana for at least five (5) years or is affiliated with a parent organization that has been in existence in Indiana for at least five (5) years;

(2) a bona fide political organization operating in Indiana that produces exempt function income (as defined in Section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code)

Time to set up my political organization! The question then becomes, will GPI return such an organization's phone calls?
 
FDLmold said:
I just grabbed this from the Indiana Gaming Commission website. This does not seem difficult at all.

WHO CAN CONDUCT CHARITY GAMING IN INDIANA?

Only a qualified organization can conduct charitable gaming in the State of Indiana.

A qualified organization is:

(1) a bona fide religious, educational, senior citizens, veterans, or civic organization operating in Indiana that:
(A) operates without profit to the organization's members;
(B) is exempt from taxation under Section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code; and
(C) has been continuously in existence in Indiana for at least five (5) years or is affiliated with a parent organization that has been in existence in Indiana for at least five (5) years;

(2) a bona fide political organization operating in Indiana that produces exempt function income (as defined in Section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code)

Time to set up my political organization! The question then becomes, will GPI return such an organization's phone calls?
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You will have the financial backing of about 200 PCF degenerates if you try this.
 
FDLmold said:
I just grabbed this from the Indiana Gaming Commission website. This does not seem difficult at all.

WHO CAN CONDUCT CHARITY GAMING IN INDIANA?

Only a qualified organization can conduct charitable gaming in the State of Indiana.

A qualified organization is:

(1) a bona fide religious, educational, senior citizens, veterans, or civic organization operating in Indiana that:
(A) operates without profit to the organization's members;
(B) is exempt from taxation under Section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code; and
(C) has been continuously in existence in Indiana for at least five (5) years or is affiliated with a parent organization that has been in existence in Indiana for at least five (5) years;

(2) a bona fide political organization operating in Indiana that produces exempt function income (as defined in Section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code)

Time to set up my political organization! The question then becomes, will GPI return such an organization's phone calls?
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If you set up a non-profit that supports transgender Muslim senior citizens that are retired teachers and former military, there's no way GPI could ignore your calls.

Now give me my damn chips. :)
 
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Blaster said:
Yes, perhaps, if a vendor one day want a run of a few hundred thousand or more WTH&C or similar , a GPI salesman that wants his commission will eventually be able "get it through " .... But as you mention, wholesalers need to pick up the fone to GPI ever 6 mos & hound them, if that is even happening right now ...
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It’s been about 6 mos.

@Apache - start picking up the phone and hounding GPI to get a new line for sale to us!!
 
MD Mike said:
It’s been about 6 mos.

@Apache - start picking up the phone and hounding GPI to get a new line for sale to us!!
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Based on the new Columbiani chips getting made, it probably is slightly more remote but likely for a wholesaler to get GPI to do a Blue Chip mold fantasy set vs any of the HC molds ..
 
Blaster said:
Based on the new Columbiani chips getting made, it probably is slightly more remote but likely for a wholesaler to get GPI to do a Blue Chip mold fantasy set vs any of the HC molds ..
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Shit, I’d take that too
 
I wonder what sort of numbers we could get if we did a mock Paulson chip group Buy on the forum.

I bet if we were allowed to design a new Paulson set, and guessed the cost, we could make the 50,000 chip count mark in mock orders. Maybe even 100,000.

I just find it impossible to believe that GPI would turn down an order for 100k chips if we knew we could hit that number.
 
detroitdad said:
Good luck on coming up with a theme, colors, edge spots, and edge spot colors that everyone could agree on.
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Wait, are you saying that people are picky in this hobby? I was thinking we could throw any ole thing together. Solid brown ones and hot pink fives with grey 312 spots. That sort of thing ;)
 
MD Mike said:
Wait, are you saying that people are picky in this hobby? I was thinking we could throw any ole thing together. Solid brown ones and hot pink fives with grey 312 spots. That sort of thing ;)
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I like pink chips with gray spots :)

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MD Mike said:
I wonder what sort of numbers we could get if we did a mock Paulson chip group Buy on the forum.

I bet if we were allowed to design a new Paulson set, and guessed the cost, we could make the 50,000 chip count mark in mock orders. Maybe even 100,000.

I just find it impossible to believe that GPI would turn down an order for 100k chips if we knew we could hit that number.
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I think the number is at least a million chips. 6-figure revenue is easy for them to turn down. 7-figure revenue would be a lot tougher.
 

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