GB *Interest* for High Quality Injection Molded Chips - 2020 (3 Viewers)

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Personally I think a set with 100 fracs, 200x$1, 200x$5 and a rack of $25 (or 80x$25 & 20x$100) is a perfect 25c/25c set.
If you want a little more play in your fracs,

120x25¢
200x$1
200x$5
60x$25
20x$100

That gives up to 10 starting stacks with 12 fracs each. Your 25¢/50¢ games will have to play pretty big to even get two barrels of $25's in play, let alone a few hundos...

Also, FWIW, I'd add 5% of each denom as spares in case something gets lost/broken/damaged.
 
I tried 10¢/20¢ for a while. Plays the same as 25¢/25¢ if you ask me.
This. My game plays. 10/.20 but I make it play like .25/.25 or .25/.50 a good deal of hands.
 
@Tommy will the inlays be aligned to the chip face design ?

There in no option to request this but every sample that I have and every photo that I've seen of these chips, the label seems to be purposely aligned with aesthetics in mind.
 
There in no option to request this but every sample that I have and every photo that I've seen of these chips, the label seems to be purposely aligned with aesthetics in mind.

Just raising the point, because the design basically requires the inlays to be aligned or it won’t work
 
Just raising the point, because the design basically requires the inlays to be aligned or it won’t work

Based on everything I've seen, samples in hand and photos of their other customized inner ring chips, label alignment is taken into consideration.

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Thry look really nice, I am still new so I guess I dont understand why they are $2~ per chip when you could get the same images on custom ceramics from abc edge aligned for much less. Can someone educate me? Or tell me if I'm asking in the wrong place.
 
Thry look really nice, I am still new so I guess I dont understand why they are $2~ per chip when you could get the same images on custom ceramics from abc edge aligned for much less. Can someone educate me? Or tell me if I'm asking in the wrong place.

Ceramics especially hybrids are decent chips and best bang for the buck but comparing them to injection molded chips is apples and oranges IMO. They sound, feel, and handle differently.

Ceramics are images/colors printed on a white blank. Scratch it, chip it, will cause the white blank to show through. With very heavy use, the printed images/colors will show wear. Edge to face alignment is not always perfect though most have pretty good alignment these days. Most ceramics that I've had suffered from edge bleed and have the blank manufacturing dimple on the rolling edge. Last I checked (with SunFly and it's been a while) you could only get glossy laminated labels. Matte finish labels were grainy and not laminated.

Injection molded chips have the chip colors/design made into the entire chip. They are more durable and colors more vibrant. Edge alignment, bleed, dimples are not a thing for them. Laminated matte and glossy labels are available along with special foils and glitters.

For me it comes down to wanting the real thing and not a picture of it.
 
Or tell me if I'm asking in the wrong place.

Absolutely not the wrong place :tup:

After testing the sample set I got to borrow, and comparing between other ceramics and plastics, the Abbiatis really stand out in terms of quality and feel. There are other great plastic and even clay chip options that are cheaper, but for me it's worth it. I know that for other members here, it might not be worth triple the price.

Getting samples really is the way to go, and I was happy to see in the other thread that you're already on that path.
 
Ceramics especially hybrids are decent chips and best bang for the buck but comparing them to injection molded chips is apples and oranges IMO. They sound, feel, and handle differently.

Ceramics are images/colors printed on a white blank. Scratch it, chip it, will cause the white blank to show through. With very heavy use, the printed images/colors will show wear. Edge to face alignment is not always perfect though most have pretty good alignment. Most ceramics that I've had suffered from edge bleed and have the blank manufacturing dimple on the rolling edge. Last I checked (with SunFly and it's been a while) you could only get glossy laminated labels. Matte finish labels were grainy and not laminated.

Injection molded chips have the chip colors/design made into the entire chip. They are more durable and colors more vibrant. Edge alignment, bleed, dimples are not a thing for them. Laminated matte and glossy labels are available along with special foils and glitters.

For me it comes down to wanting the real thing and not a picture of it.

All of this. The faux spots, comparative lack of vibrant colors and dimples never sat well with me. I've had sets of both and after having quality plastics I don't think I'd ever go back (however, the right set of 43mm Sun-Flys could possibly persuade me. Those feel fantastic and are probably unbeatable for the price).
 
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Hey @Tommy , do you think with the one time fees, I should estimate cost per chip at 2.50 , can you give me an idea if possible
 
Minimum one time fees are $5k if all minimum order quantities are met. Divided by the current order quantity, $2.50 is accurate. If we get to 20k chips and all MOQs, $2.25 is what it will get down to. I think.
 
if the 20 and 100 don't make minimum, is that 854 per denom or 854 for both denoms ?
 
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Minimum one time fees are $5k if all minimum order quantities are met. Divided by the current order quantity, $2.50 is accurate. If we get to 20k chips and all MOQs, $2.25 is what it will get down to. I think.

Note that there is still shipping to Tommy that is on top of the one time fees. This can be very expensive...several thousand bucks. So just something else to consider when estimating final per chip costs. Shipping should be less than the one time fees, but will be considerable.
 
if the 20 and 100 don't make minimum, is that 854 per denom or 854 for both denoms ?

It seems to me that these both must make the minimum. I think the 20 will get there naturally. And the hundo...a fee of $854 is essentially the price of 380 chips! I would rather see us each order an extra barrel of Hundos or something, than pay that fee. It’s like free chips!! Same price. Would you rather pay the fee or have more chips? :)

of course, depends how short we are. But 380 chips is a lot!
 
I would rather see us each order an extra barrel of Hundos or something, than pay that fee. It’s like free chips!! Same price. Would you rather pay the fee or have more chips? :)

I'm entertaining the idea of relabeling the hundos as nickels or even replacing the quarters.. They're so nice. Would just need to clear the artwork first.

I’m having trouble resisting a cash set of these ...

Yep ;)
 
I'm entertaining the idea of relabeling the hundos as nickels or even replacing the quarters.. They're so nice. Would just need to clear the artwork first.
Let me know what you find out. I'm considering it, but maybe not.
 
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Note that there is still shipping to Tommy that is on top of the one time fees. This can be very expensive...several thousand bucks. So just something else to consider when estimating final per chip costs. Shipping should be less than the one time fees, but will be considerable.
Will the shipping really be several thousand dollars? Don't these companies usually waive shipping once it gets to a certain $ amount? Or is that just an amazon thing?
 
I don’t know about Abbiati, but for Matsui, yes. The freight cost for our first order was $3710.00
 
I don’t know about Abbiati, but for Matsui, yes. The freight cost for our first order was $3710.00

Wow, I don't understand though, why is it so expensive? How can I order something equally as expensive from china and have shipping waived but not from italy, or wherever Matsui's HQ is located
 
It may be far less this time. Time of year, and location within the United States also impact this — I live all the way across the country from Tommy...it is probably mich less to ship to him. I just wanted people to be aware of this cost too. It isn’t JUST the one time costs.

That said, let’s just order a ton of chips, bring those costs per chip down!!
 
Wow, I don't understand though, why is it so expensive? How can I order something equally as expensive from china and have shipping waived but not from italy, or wherever Matsui's HQ is located
Air freight is expensive. Extremely slow sea freight (container) shipping is the only other option for chips sent from China -- it's legal to make poker chips, but not to possess them. Ownership transfer (to a non-Chinese shipping agent) occurs before they leave the factory.

Abbiatti is in Europe, so I'd expect shipping to be less.
 
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