Coming from China isn't there a non-zero chance of the inclusion of lead or other toxic ingredients? Does lead paint add weight?
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Harrahs New Orleans NCV THC chip sale (2 Viewers)
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EverGreenGSO
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But how much cotton?
Did Jim mention anywhere when the pricing will be available? Its been almost 48 hours, that is a long time in PCF world...
Normally about a week before he will post pics and pricing.
I’ve been seeing these cotton cracks for a while now, but I have no idea what they’re referring to. I must have missed something, but yet it doesn’t feel like I missed much.
If I'm saying it, you know it's nothing too important.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/cpc-general-discussion-thread.3879/post-2366449
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/cpc-general-discussion-thread.3879/post-2367698
CPC chip composition discussion where the correct reading of the ingredient amounts on a TRK order card is disputed leading to a lesson in fabric weights
And as an added bonus, there’s another round of bergs vs Rainman? Now this day is getting exciting!
That means I have to wait a whole week before confirming to myself that these are too expensive to pick up on a whim
A comparison which I feel demonstrates how I feel Leaded THC vs Unleaded RHC feel:
Leaded
Unleaded
And I'm certain time will also favor the Leaded chips in terms of value and durability
Leaded
Unleaded
And I'm certain time will also favor the Leaded chips in terms of value and durability
And he feels this way even if they both weigh 10g on a calibrated scale.
Already happened. Except they're macroplastics.
Thanks for saving me the trouble of going looking for these.
Link to showcase for your zinc washer poker chip collection please...
So if I were to evaluate forces affecting the value of Leaded & Unleaded Paulsons
For leaded the fact that they aren't making anymore is a huge plus. They'll come to market as casinos replace them and rebrand but there's a limited supply. On the other hand the newer players that play are more likely to be health conscious millenials/gen Z that will discount leaded chips, so I think that the demand is also limited. I'd probably just put it as a wash.
For unleaded and Paulsons in general, all the newer players right now are entering casinos and playing with the plastics/ceramics there (yuck I know). There's gonna be much less of a nostalgia/legitimacy factor to Paulsons in the future, outside of the WSOP and the major casinos, though we're also seeing a lot of the big ones like Bellagio or Aria use custom molds vs. the THC or RHC that most Paulson sets here have, so I think the value in general will decrease relative to the supply. The prestige of the brand and that THC/RHC mold will probably decrease over time, and when I see poker chips in media, it tends to be cheap garbage (saw a music video with 313 million views with dice chips recently.... you're not balling if you're playing poker with dice chips) whereas the cards will at least be Fournier/Copag though cheaper productions will be Bicycle and always poker size (lol).
I think most of the young guns that would have grown up to become chippers like us will instead make custom plastic/ceramic chips for cheaper than a former casino set would cost, or discount those plastic/ceramic sets that do come up here less than we do.
So not a great outlook from an investment standpoint... but I buy chips because I want em, not to invest.
TLDR: Kids these days don't know what good chips look like, society is going to shit
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Did you just suggest that leaded chips won’t be worth much in the future because we’ve raised 2-3 generations of snowflakes?
In all seriousness, there’s probably some truth to what you say. Poker / casino chips have realistically only existed for what, 100-150 years? And this hobby of collecting them as playable sets has existed for what, 20-30 years? So yeah it’s all a blip on the radar and nobody should consider chips as a long term investment.
I’ve hopefully got 30 good years left, maybe 40 if I lay off the booze. My Paulsons will last that long, and that’s all that matters to me.
I am one of the snowflakes haha that's how I know what's gonna happen.
If you belong to one of those generations, you’d probably know better than me. But my guess is that you’re overestimating the concern your peers would have about leaded poker chips (not to mention the actual dangers, which I’ll argue are zero unless you’re actually eating them.)
Oh don't worry, they've ingested much worse than lead. That being said though we were raised hearing about all the lead paint chips and Nero going crazy cause he ate meat from lead crates so there's some cultural barriers there.
Also I think a lot of chippers here love lead because they played with lead chips at the casino back in the day and really felt a change when the unleaded chips came in, but all the new players are only experiencing unleaded and may never have contact with a shuffling stack of lead chips. At best I've only seen the rare lead chip at a really old casino mixed in with the newer chip releases. So not even health related but there's just no nostalgia value to lead for new players.
6 of us are about to make a WSOP trip next week and I'm the only chipper of us, but I'll collect some opinions.
Also I think a lot of chippers here love lead because they played with lead chips at the casino back in the day and really felt a change when the unleaded chips came in, but all the new players are only experiencing unleaded and may never have contact with a shuffling stack of lead chips. At best I've only seen the rare lead chip at a really old casino mixed in with the newer chip releases. So not even health related but there's just no nostalgia value to lead for new players.
6 of us are about to make a WSOP trip next week and I'm the only chipper of us, but I'll collect some opinions.
I think you're vastly underestimating the amount of millennials that are very active on this site and are lead-heads. Besides the Moneymaker WSOP BJ chips, the nostalgia for them is going to be in the poker itself, not the chips from their time (especially since that contingent was too young for casinos at such time). The chip preferences are typically picked up on this site, by those that stick around if they don't grab from the assortment of easy/affordable plastics and just bounce. If the millennial contingent is anti-lead for health reasons, I cannot remember seeing that sentiment stated by more than one or two people from that group in my entire time here (which of course doesn't mean it doesn't exist but would seem to indicate it's an extreme minority).
Most people do seem to like heavy. Plus they come from dice chips and those are official weight and heavy.
No.
They are a shufflers dream. They shuffle and stack just so much better than unleaded. It's night and day.
The money maker generation call me "kid" at the table haha.
That being said I agree, but I think "poker" is less and less repped by Paulson THC/RHC. We already saw WSOP ChipCo sets, that's something that's gonna be valued more by my generation compared to this one. If Paulson loses the actual Vegas WSOP to another company... that's gonna be a huge blow. For comparison, consider the prestige KEM used to have before and after they lost the WSOP after the 2011 scandal, and KEM still has much deeper penetration in US Casinos than Paulson does now. I still buy KEMs because I'm a history guy but my brother and his friends are all on this Faded Spade, four color deck weird stuff, most people just go with Copags.
Anyone getting their hands on leaded THC (or TRK) is simply gonna ”get it”. The way they shuffle and handle waaaaay take precedence over any historical impact (though not to be ignored).
WSOP fake Chipcos?
potatolei
Two Pair
What was the 2011 KEM scandal?
Ben8257
Royal Flush
How I felt when this thread started
How I feel now...
Please for the love of GOD take the lead discussion to one of the 8000 other threads about it and stop slowing down the internet with this Poo Poo talk! Jim deserves better... like the empty wallet Asian dude GIF or the Ranger saying "I will never financially recover from this!" You know the normal shit people post before a chip room sale.
Wow am I really getting that much older or is this hobby getting worse! Where is @upNdown ... Rob is it cloudy there? I wanna yell at clouds!
How I feel now...
Please for the love of GOD take the lead discussion to one of the 8000 other threads about it and stop slowing down the internet with this Poo Poo talk! Jim deserves better... like the empty wallet Asian dude GIF or the Ranger saying "I will never financially recover from this!" You know the normal shit people post before a chip room sale.
Wow am I really getting that much older or is this hobby getting worse! Where is @upNdown ... Rob is it cloudy there? I wanna yell at clouds!
Feels very unBen of you to start yelling at couds, but fair enough. Back on track: will these be free or what?
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