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Have Chinese cards mold replica sets gone too far? (2 Viewers)

allforcharity said:
(Pssst. Edge spot progression a made up thing.)
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RocAFella1 said:
Will we ever see cards mold tributes of cards mold?
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Well, I don't think so because Tina already did a tribute of SunFly chips since cards and diamonds mold were initially offered by SF.

So a company doing a tribute of the cards mold would in fact be tributing SF ahah.
 
ekricket said:
I don’t think I’ve read a post in this thread that missed the mark as much as this one does.
I didn’t come here looking for “specific design elements” nor were they available at the time even if that was what was desired.

I came here looking for pieces of history, mementos of an era past that were not common, things that were unique, hard to find, that required patience and perseverance to realize.

I came for the chaos of sets scattered to the winds by uncaring individuals, to reach into that chaos and pull something coherent out of it.

I didn’t come to order stuff out of a catalog or simply make my budget known and have items magically paraded before me for the dollars.

I came to hunt the pieces, to build order out of disorder, hopefully beautiful creations that serve a purpose as well as honor their history.

You may think this is bullshit, but you don’t know me. If you did you maybe wouldn’t generalize as much as you do to justify your position.

There are others like me in this respect. Maybe not as vocal, but the same thing drives them.
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I'm not justifying any position. I don't own any cards mold replicas. Nor do I intend to. I also don't own any tribute sets of any kind.

It's laughable that arrogant folks who just have deeper pockets look at folks with scorn who just have the same motivation - searching for a poker chip set to enjoy.

Get a grip. Buying poker chips is not some noble pursuit. It's a hobby.

ekricket said:
I came to hunt the pieces, to build order out of disorder
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These are just poker chips we're talking about. You're not Indiana Jones on the hunt for sacred artifacts.
 
I don't understand why we can't appreciate both worlds. Why frown on those who enjoy the game for its merits, but don't feel compelled to go all out by replicating what you would expect to find in a casino?

All this attention on poker chips, as if we should adhere to the same religion, is upside down. Poker rooms predate Paulsons by decades. What do people imagine they used for tables and chips back then? Ever wonder what Doyle Brunson's opinion would be on this subject? Or Stu Ungar if he were alive today?

I have played in eight long running weekly home games over the years, two tournaments, six cash. Only two had poker tables with cushioned rails and only one of them Paulson poker chips, the rest were slugged chips. Are my memories of those games less rich because they didn't have poker chips like those found in casinos?

The home game that stands out from all the rest for me was the one in downtown Bangor above a bar on the third floor of a brick building that survived the fire of 1912. At the top of the stairs was a two person bench for people waiting for a seat at the card table. In the early 2010's, that bench saw a lot of use. The room had a slanted ceiling. In the front half of the room, they had an old 1950's counter height, square table made of solid wood that sat two to a side. Behind the card table was a late 19th century ornate pool table. One of the bartenders would come upstairs twice an evening to take drink orders.

To play cards on the third floor of that 19th century brick building with its 19th century pool table and slanted ceiling was like taking a step back in time. Having someone bring drinks to the table added to that experience. Drinks and cards. Now ask me if I missed having Paulson poker chips.... would you?
 
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Mojo1312 said:
I don't understand why we can't appreciate both worlds. Why frown on those who enjoy the game for its merits, but don't feel compelled to go all out by replicating what you would expect to find in a casino?

All this attention on poker chips, as if we should adhere to the same religion, is upside down. Poker rooms predate Paulsons by decades. What do people imagine they used for tables and chips back then? Ever wonder what Doyle Brunson's opinion would be on this subject? Or Stu Ungar if he were alive today?

I have played in eight long running home games over the years, two tournaments, six cash. Only two had poker tables and only one of them Paulson poker chips, the rest were slugged chips. Are my memories of those games less rich because they didn't have poker chips like those found in casinos?

The one game that stands out for me from all the rest was the game in downtown Bangor above a bar on the third floor of a brick building that survived the fire of 1912. At the top of the stairs was a two person bench for people waiting for a seat at the table. In the early 2010's, that bench saw a lot of use. The room had a slanted ceiling. In the front half of the room, they had an old 1950's bar height, square table made of solid wood that sat two to a side. Behind the table was a late 19th century ornate pool table. One of the bartenders would come upstairs twice an evening to take drink orders.

To play cards on the third floor of that 19th century brick building with its 19th century pool table and slanted ceiling was like taking a step back in time. Having someone bring drinks to the table added to that experience. Now ask me if I missed having Paulson chips.... would you?
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Truth.

Given the focus of this forum, it's easy to forget that poker chips are often near the bottom of the list when it comes down to impacting the overall experience of playing cards.
 
Mojo1312 said:
I don't understand why we can't appreciate both worlds. Why frown on those who enjoy the game for its merits, but don't feel compelled to go all out by replicating what you would expect to find in a casino?

All this attention on poker chips, as if we should adhere to the same religion, is upside down. Poker rooms predate Paulsons by decades. What do people imagine they used for tables and chips back then? Ever wonder what Doyle Brunson's opinion would be on this subject? Or Stu Ungar if he were alive today?

I have played in eight long running weekly home games over the years, two tournaments, six cash. Only two had poker tables and only one of them Paulson poker chips, the rest were slugged chips. Are my memories of those games less rich because they didn't have poker chips like those found in casinos?

The home game that stands out from all the rest for me was the one in downtown Bangor above a bar on the third floor of a brick building that survived the fire of 1912. At the top of the stairs was a two person bench for people waiting for a seat at the card table. In the early 2010's, that bench saw a lot of use. The room had a slanted ceiling. In the front half of the room, they had an old 1950's bar height, square table made of solid wood that sat two to a side. Behind the card table was a late 19th century ornate pool table. One of the bartenders would come upstairs twice an evening to take drink orders.

To play cards on the third floor of that 19th century brick building with its 19th century pool table and slanted ceiling was like taking a step back in time. Having someone bring drinks to the table added to that experience. Drinks and cards. Now ask me if I missed having Paulson poker chips.... would you?
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Great post and well-written. I’m sure you have some more interesting stories to tell!
 
I don’t think the discussion is about the ambiance of a poker game or the experience.

I think it’s about the chips. (See attached) :)

I think the discussion is more aligned with:
Rolex vs Folex
AC Cobra vs Kit Car
All Natural vs Silicone

You can have fun with the other option, yes…. But the real deal always wins.

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louBdub said:
I don’t think the discussion is about the ambiance of a poker game or the experience.

I think it’s about the chips. (See attached) :)

I think the discussion is more aligned with:
Rolex vs Folex
AC Cobra vs Kit Car
All Natural vs Silicone

You can have fun with the other option, yes…. But the real deal always wins.
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The real deal is casino's are for profit entities regulated by a state board. They pay taxes and have to protect their operation against fraud. The gaming industry needs to worry about counterfeits. The real deal is none of us are running casinos, so any and all chips used in home games are legitimate.

The real deal is the NAGB chips are the true counterfeits, not the ceramics coming out of China.
 
Mojo1312 said:
The real deal is casino's are for profit entities regulated by a state board. They pay taxes and have to protect their operation against fraud. The gaming industry needs to worry about counterfeits. The real deal is none of us are running casinos, so any and all chips used in home games are legitimate.

The real deal is the NAGB chips are the true counterfeits, not the ceramics coming out of China.
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I think you read too deep into my comment.

See my examples. I’m not saying “real deal” as in casino vs home game….

I’m saying real titties are better than fake.

I’m saying an authentic Cobra is WAY better than a replica.

I’m saying Paulson clay is absolutely better than plastic copies.

I’m not saying I won’t squeeze a fake titty, drive a replica Cobra, or play with plastic chips.

But I’d prefer the real deal if possible. Make sense?
 
louBdub said:
I think you read too deep into my comment.

See my examples. I’m not saying “real deal” as in casino vs home game….

I’m saying real titties are better than fake.

I’m saying an authentic Cobra is WAY better than a replica.

I’m saying Paulson clay is absolutely better than plastic copies.

I’m not saying I won’t squeeze a fake titty, drive a replica Cobra, or play with plastic chips.

But I’d prefer the real deal if possible. Make sense?
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I think you just brought everyone together by introducing Titties to the convo :LOL: :laugh: Ceasefire. We’re taking about Titties.
 
The only replica set I'm interested in is the replica of the Paulson set I would have made if they were readily available and I could afford them.

That said, I do appreciate some of the historic set tributes, like the NCC's, Mapes, etc.
 
louBdub said:
I think you read too deep into my comment.

See my examples. I’m not saying “real deal” as in casino vs home game….

I’m saying real titties are better than fake.

I’m saying an authentic Cobra is WAY better than a replica.

I’m saying Paulson clay is absolutely better than plastic copies.

I’m not saying I won’t squeeze a fake titty, drive a replica Cobra, or play with plastic chips.

But I’d prefer the real deal if possible. Make sense?
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Yes, I hope no one is saying the prefer a tribute to the real thing, I missed that. But if the fake tit touch is $270 and the real tit touch is $3000, thats an easy decision for me. As an ass man, I guess its all about priorities.

I think we've derailed from, "is this ethical/good for the hobby".
 
TheOffalo said:
Also, people are consistently inconsistent, for better or for worse...
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So true. People praise and never get mad at a guy like Jim from Chip room who buys chips in bulk for a discount only to be the biggest chip flipper known to man. Then Jim the big flipper of course flips them (in usually 60 seconds) for a nice little cash grab profit. Probably double his money, and yes there is risk involved. That is what Jim does, he risks and flips. Jim does not manufacture, again he simply flips. That flip is beyond praised. Reveled in some cases! But wait sham wow, furious anger results from someone who sets an alarm and changes their schedule to buy said chips from JIM the big flipper (yes during that crucial 60 second Jim flip sale) because that person buying from Jim decides to flip them at other places or other times (that might take longer then 60 seconds) for a fee? That flipper also takes a risk. Dont believe me. Did u see some of JIMs $1 used chips from Elsinore? I mean I saw a single chip picture in the sales ad, however when I saw the chip pRon of $1s that’s were sold I was baffled, and super thankful I didn’t own any. Yuck! Some were so beat (and far off the color in the OP picture) they should of been thrown away IMO. Again, So to some degree the first flip is ok, but don’t u dare be the second sale or else!? Lol things that make you go hmmmn I guess u really can’t please everyone…


Reminds me, took a break last year as I had a well respected guy here once ask me to go to get poker chips he claimed were for sale in Redding, the town I’m from. The chips were listed online. I saw the link he sent. I think they were asking $300 for a 4500 lot of chips on Craigslist. Anyways, Unfortunately it was Redding on the East coast, not Redding, California, and deff not my town. Anyways; He’s a well known royal member most cheerlead for. He ended up getting the chips for the said $300 and I saw the same chips listed by the racks here for $8000+ within a week. Is he a flipper too? Or is that ok because he’s a wild civilian Craigslist search computer bot key word harvester??? To me a flip is a flip, none of which causes me a second of anger, grief, or frustration.

And furthermore Susan, don’t get me started on tigers. Talk about a flip or flippers. Holy wow cash cow. Like hitting a real life jackpot, $6+ racks? CHA CHING!!! Nice little triple up, MINIMUM and again none of which caused me a second of anger, pain, or grief and YES that’s just another flipper. Like it or not, I thankfully, after many many years, and simply because of TINA, I have plenty of the poker chips I desperately need to host my poker games at a high level! Boooya! You go Tigers!!!

Oh and ya and listen Linda, in case u missed it, card molds are awesome because they are useful, pretty, smell good, can be custom, and are super crazy redic UNDER priced gems for how truly amazing they are. The price is right Bob, and you guessed it, they are readily available. No special tiger or golden ticket needed, just cold hard cash. YES, mine are great, easy to get, and make feel amazing when I see my bank account and again smile at the 35 cents a piece price tag when I lose one after a three day poker marathon of mixed games with friends.


In summary Tina is not a flipper but she will potentially cause anger from people with stocks/hoards of chips. Why? Its money re-directed away from them. Lots of it. I know I likely won’t be buying too many chips for my personal poker collection other then from Tina. They look and work great, but then again I love people, not things. Tina requires no begging or special breakdowns, and that anger created from the risk flippers took when they stocked/hoarded the chips to flip/vault/showoff should be re-directed at themselves. I simply say God bless us all, and Ship it!
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