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Not sure what was more insane...

Alec's fold with 8's full or Henry's three bet on the river with only trip queens on a paired board.
 
Anyone else just watch that crazy hand between Luda Chris and Fransico? I’ve never seen something like that before especially playing those stakes.
 
JMC9389 said:
Not sure what was more insane...

Alec's fold with 8's full or Henry's three bet on the river with only trip queens on a paired board.
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both are great IMO. without being reaults orientated Alec's fold can only be made by a good player. long term in that same spot not having the benefit of knowing the opponent's hand would be torching money long term. Henrys 3bet is really ballsy but he read the situation correctly and can only pull it off against a reg. Enjoyable hand
 
FWIW, there is site which tracks winnings (and losses) by players at HCL:

http://www.trackingpoker.com

Garrett is the winningest player in their game, at least in terms of total winnings. There are others who have won more per session, on average, but most of those have played far less often than Adelstein.

It’s also instructive to note that 19 of Garrett’s 53 sessions were losing sessions, just under 36%. This would seem to be a good thing to point out to people just getting into poker—that on any given day, even the strongest cash players may lose somewhere between 1/3rd-2/5ths of the time. What seems to matter as much as anything is how big/small the winnings are relation to the losses. An HCL player can lose $11K nine times, but becomes a “winning” player if they have a +$100K session on the tenth try...
 
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Taghkanic said:
FWIW, there is site which tracks winnings (and losses) by players at HCL:

http://www.trackingpoker.com

Garrett is the winningest player in their game, at least in terms of total winnings. There are others who have won more per session, on average, but most of those have played far less often than Adelstein.

It’s also instructive to note that 19 of Garrett’s 53 sessions were losing sessions, just under 36%. This would seem to be a good thing to point out to people just getting into poker—that on any given day, even the strongest cash players may lose somewhere between 1/3rd-2/5ths of the time. What seems to matter as much as anything is how big/small the winnings are relation to the losses. An HCL player can lose $11K nine times, but becomes a “winning” player if they have a +$100K session on the tenth try...
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Thanks! Interesting link. So Krish has played 17 sessions and is down $900K.
 
Didn’t see the Bryn hand. Was that a $900K pot or a +$900K profit? i.e. if someone shoves for $450K, gets called and wins, that improves their net result +$450K not +$900K.

Meanwhile, we don’t know what the overall results are for any of these players at HSP, unless there is a similar site tracking that.

When assessing results, we need to see a full picture, not just focus on a few spectacular hands (and that goes for Krish, or Garrett, or anyone else). The HCL tallies at least start to provide a broader picture of that game for the regs who have played 30+ sessions, though I suspect you’d need an much bigger sample size to truly see who is good or bad as opposed to running good or running bad.
 
TrillAK said:
Obviously lucky spot but I think Mariano cold calling the 5 bet earned him both their stacks. I feel like one of them gets away if Mariano jammed first there. Sick hand tho!
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I think Yang could have got away. Someone 6-bet shoves 1k+ BB and the guy behind cold called your 5-bet? Surely one of them has aces. But I've never folded kings so what do I know. Obviously such a sick spot. I think he talked himself into thinking Mariano had QQ and he could maybe chop it up with Double M.
 
grandmeme said:
I think Yang could have got away. Someone 6-bet shoves 1k+ BB and the guy behind cold called your 5-bet? Surely one of them has aces. But I've never folded kings so what do I know. Obviously such a sick spot. I think he talked himself into thinking Mariano had QQ and he could maybe chop it up with Double M.
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I agree 100% Yang had to get away there. I think he HAS to know one of the others has Aces.. I think absolute best case scenario for him when he calls there is one of them has Aces and the other has Queens and he’s still live to spike a set of Kings.. but yeah this is watching from my couch while seeing the hands lol so who knows
 
grandmeme said:
I think Yang could have got away. Someone 6-bet shoves 1k+ BB and the guy behind cold called your 5-bet? Surely one of them has aces. But I've never folded kings so what do I know. Obviously such a sick spot. I think he talked himself into thinking Mariano had QQ and he could maybe chop it up with Double M.
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I think it’s impossible for me to fold KK preflop on a Cash Game (but then I don’t often played that deep stack so I never know if I gotten at the actual same spot); that’s being said I will have folded (and I did folded In similar spot before) if I got QQ or JJ at that spot

KK is just a cooler spot
 
LeLe said:
I think it’s impossible for me to fold KK preflop on a Cash Game (but then I don’t often played that deep stack so I never know if I gotten at the actual same spot); that’s being said I will have folded (and I did folded In similar spot before) if I got QQ or JJ at that spot

KK is just a cooler spot
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I don't play much deepstack as well so I'm unsure about solver play but what I do know is that 5-bets and 6-bets in NLHE are just super strong. Especially deeper-stacked, suited broadways and medium pocket pairs are out to crack big hands and would flat rather than open the action from implied odds.

You also have to take into account player profiles in this hand. Obviously watching on youtube it is easy to see the hands, but IMO Double M is a huge nit with his stack and rarely gets it all in without at least the second nuts.

So if you're in Yang's shoes, you just 5-bet 200BB, Mariano FLATS, and Double M just snap jams 1000+ BB?? He's repping KK+ or nothing. Mariano is not getting in there without AK, QQ+ flatting 1/5 of his stack with a 4-bettor behind. So if you were EVER folding kings, it has to be this spot. One of them has to, best case scenario, have queens and the other has kings too. Remember Yang blocks kings as well!
 
grandmeme said:
I don't play much deepstack as well so I'm unsure about solver play but what I do know is that 5-bets and 6-bets in NLHE are just super strong. Especially deeper-stacked, suited broadways and medium pocket pairs are out to crack big hands and would flat rather than open the action from implied odds.

You also have to take into account player profiles in this hand. Obviously watching on youtube it is easy to see the hands, but IMO Double M is a huge nit with his stack and rarely gets it all in without at least the second nuts.

So if you're in Yang's shoes, you just 5-bet 200BB, Mariano FLATS, and Double M just snap jams 1000+ BB?? He's repping KK+ or nothing. Mariano is not getting in there without AK, QQ+ flatting 1/5 of his stack with a 4-bettor behind. So if you were EVER folding kings, it has to be this spot. One of them has to, best case scenario, have queens and the other has kings too. Remember Yang blocks kings as well!
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Agree with everything here. But thanks to Yang for calling and providing us with this entertainment lol. Interesting hand
 
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Squakmix said:
This hand left me speechless

I have no idea how Nitucci has managed to be one of the top winners on this stream
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Because he's an incredibly successful bum hunter lol. He fills the stream then plays against spewy people trying to get attention.

Holding the Ac you fold there? Ridiculous, he earns his name.
 
What he said after the hand was over was probably the most interesting part to me. He clearly didn't misread his hand and knew that he had the ace of clubs and was redrawing to the nut flush. After saying he had the ace of clubs he asks "does that matter? I don't know."

Francisco the pro telling him afterward that he would've folded too is priceless
 

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