In This Together (4 Viewers)

[ImCrossland]

I would offer to facilitate the funds and corroborate the claims @horseshoez has received for reprieve by affected members.

I would recommend that in order for members to receive a reprieve, their PCF account and time stamped proof of payment to Poppin (excluding any private info) must be shared publicly that show how much was stolen from them.

As funds come in, I would recommend the exact dollar amount and account name of every contributor be publicly displayed as well. Although it “glorifies” those who pitched in, this level of transparency would make it essentially impossible for a single dollar from any generous person to be used for any other purposes other than what they are intended.

While there are certainly deeper pocketed individuals on here with a greater level of credibility than me who would be more trusted to hold the funds, I’m tossing my hat in the ring in case anybody here would find it preferable.

-Triston

 

[Pinkdan]

I would offer to facilitate the funds and corroborate the claims @horseshoez has received for reprieve by affected members.

I would recommend that in order for members to receive a reprieve, their PCF account and time stamped proof of payment to Poppin (excluding any private info) must be shared publicly that show how much was stolen from them.

As funds come in, I would recommend the exact dollar amount and account name of every contributor be publicly displayed as well. Although it “glorifies” those who pitched in, this level of transparency would make it essentially impossible for a single dollar from any generous person to be used for any other purposes other than what they are intended.

While there are certainly deeper pocketed individuals on here with a greater level of credibility than me who would be more trusted to hold the funds, I’m tossing my hat in the ring in case anybody here would find it preferable.

-Triston

 

[horseshoez]

Sorry for the derailing comment, but there are NO refugees in Greece.
Only illegal immigrants who may have legally been indeed refugees in their first safe receiving country.

If that safe haven is Egypt, no illegal boats have ever departed from there (to Egypt's credit).
If it's Turkey, that country has tried to weaponise swarms of desperate people against the EU and its first neighbouring nation - Greece..
And it's perfectly safe to help those poor people in illegal immigrants' camps (I have donated most of my family's blankets, sheets and casual clothing). So no harm's way (with the very possible exception of lawlessness and ethnic violence among the poor people in those camps).

Without diving into the details of the events leading up to the crisis and how it played out, it was a large scale effort that was aimed at helping those who were either in transit to other countries as refugees and those who ended up in refugee camps scattered around Greece during that time. Was a big mess, to say the least. We're not sure where most of those people ended up settling but we do know that their transportation and living conditions were beyond horrid.

 

[Coyote]

it was a large scale effort

By whom exactly?

that was aimed at helping those who were either in transit to other countries as refugees and those who ended up in refugee camps scattered around Greece during that time.

Who decided about who is destined for anywhere and about who is still a refugee after having fled a danger zone?

We're not sure where most of those people ended up settling

Because the "organizations" your wife is working for just don't care where they end up, let alone care to "be sure" if a region is flooded with destitute foreigners of a hostile culture, rising up to the very number of the local population

but we do know that their transportation and living conditions were beyond horrid.

Nobody invited them to Europe or promised them anything. Certainly, conditions they fled from were even more horrid.
But either Turkey or Egypt are safe havens for them. The difference between those two countries' policies is telling.
Of course, you could accommodate them all (many of them Islamist fanatics) in your US County.

 

[ImCrossland]

 

[Percy7]

I thought we were taking chips

 

[horseshoez]

I would offer to facilitate the funds and corroborate the claims @horseshoez has received for reprieve by affected members.

I would recommend that in order for members to receive a reprieve, their PCF account and time stamped proof of payment to Poppin (excluding any private info) must be shared publicly that show how much was stolen from them.

As funds come in, I would recommend the exact dollar amount and account name of every contributor be publicly displayed as well. Although it “glorifies” those who pitched in, this level of transparency would make it essentially impossible for a single dollar from any generous person to be used for any other purposes other than what they are intended.

While there are certainly deeper pocketed individuals on here with a greater level of credibility than me who would be more trusted to hold the funds, I’m tossing my hat in the ring in case anybody here would find it preferable.

-Triston

I say let's get this going already. You're my hero right now. Any objections?

By whom exactly?

Who decided about who is destined for anywhere and about who is still a refugee after having fled a danger zone?

Because the "organizations" your wife is working for just don't care where they end up, let alone care to "be sure" if a region is flooded with destitute foreigners of a hostile culture, rising up to the very number of the local population

Nobody invited them to Europe or promised them anything. Certainly, conditions they fled from were even more horrid.
But either Turkey or Egypt are safe havens for them. The difference between those two countries' policies is telling.
Of course, you could accommodate them all (many of them Islamist fanatics) in your US County.

Let’s leave this for a private discussion shall we? My wife and I don’t work for a random non-profit, we own it. The aid was hand delivered by my own wife, in person, putting herself in harms way for the sake of humanity. I’m not diving into this further as it feels almost like an attack on people who helped others and questioning the legitimacy of it. I welcome any questions or concerns you have in a PM. Happy to discuss there.

 

[cpac54]

I thought we were talking about chips.. anyway. Is this the PayPal everyone has for poppin? We could be dealing with multiples is all I’m saying

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He had at least two paypal accounts and several addresses that were used as shipping addresses.

 

[horseshoez]

If you’d like to discuss politics, move it to another thread. Don’t come in here muddying the waters throwing around accusations on what shady things happened with regards to world affairs, crises, etc. It’s not the place to be having these discussions as we’re trying to stay focused on the issue at hand, which is people losing money when they shouldn’t have followed by how to mitigate those losses for them. Leave the negative Nancy crap at the door and try to be reasonable when partaking in this discussion.

 

[ImCrossland]

If all are okay with my involvement, here’s what I need from everyone affected by this fraud:

1 - Screen shot of transaction including Poppin’s account name, funds sent, and date of payment
2 - Screen shots of your PM’s with him finalizing your purchase
3 - a link to the sale thread (if not strictly done through PM) of the chips you paid for.

For the sake of being organized, please email me this information at tristoncrossland@yahoo.com

As an aside for any who worry I might run off with the funds, my name is Triston Crossland, I work for the United Corpus Christi Chamber of Commerce in Corpus Christi, TX and am the oldest living member of my family, responsible for the lives of 5 younger siblings who live here.

I’m not giving up my job/life/everything I’ve ever known for an amount of money that barely covers my last 4 days of purchases. (Yes, that was a slight flex but had to end it on a funny note)

 

[davislane]

I say let's get this going already. You're my hero right now. Any objections?

Id nominate @Perthmike or at least some as long-standing PCFer as he has been. Probably someone stateside so international transfer fees arent charged moving the $ around

Nothing against Triston but he has only been here for a red hot minute and I think for the comfort of everyone involved it would be more prudent to go with someone with a more established reputation.

 

[horseshoez]

Id nominate @Perthmike or at least some as long-standing PCFer as he has been. Probably someone stateside so international transfer fees arent charged moving the $ around

Nothing against Triston but he has only been here for a red hot minute and I think for the comfort of everyone involved it would be more prudent to go with someone with a more established reputation.

Might have to account for fees stemming from payment to PayPal that is non-USD. Just a thought.

 

[Grimace]

Sorry for the derailing comment, but there are NO refugees in Greece.
Only illegal immigrants who may have legally been indeed refugees in their first safe receiving country.

If that safe haven is Egypt, no illegal boats have ever departed from there (to Egypt's credit).
If it's Turkey, that country has tried to weaponise swarms of desperate people against the EU and its first neighbouring nation - Greece..
And it's perfectly safe to help those poor people in illegal immigrants' camps (I have donated most of my family's blankets, sheets and casual clothing). So no harm's way (with the very possible exception of lawlessness and ethnic violence among the poor people in those camps).

Is this really the direction you want to take this thread?? That’s what you’ve decided to take issue with. Why is there always one in the crowd. Kick rocks and move along if you have nothing constructive to add to this thread. @horseshoez is a amazing member of this community. I wouldn’t have the set I have without his help and many more members on here like him. His reputation as a outstanding member and all around awesome human being is beyond reproach. He has taken on this task to help out the fellow members that were scammed and there’s nothing in it for him in the end. Even doing something this generous and time consuming and still there’s a member here and there throwing rocks. Grow up. If you have a issue with his charitable work take it up via pm or just say nothing at all.

Rant done. Sorry for the derail. Zaki your awesome brother. Thanks for doing this and everything else you do to make this place the outstanding community it is.

 

[ImCrossland]

Id nominate @Perthmike or at least some as long-standing PCFer as he has been. Probably someone stateside so international transfer fees arent charged moving the $ around

Nothing against Triston but he has only been here for a red hot minute and I think for the comfort of everyone involved it would be more prudent to go with someone with a more established reputation.

Perfectly okay with this!

Completely agree a more long-standing member would be preferable.

 

[Coyote]

I have not been criticising @horseshoez and I 'm praising him for what he does in this thread.
I just had to correct some terms used by him in some side comments of his, which were inaccurate and unfair to my nation.
Period.

 

[Percy7]

If all are okay with my involvement, here’s what I need from everyone affected by this fraud:

1 - Screen shot of transaction including Poppin’s account name, funds sent, and date of payment
2 - Screen shots of your PM’s with him finalizing your purchase
3 - a link to the sale thread (if not strictly done through PM

You spent 20k in 4 days internal medicine was clearly the wrong career path. Lol

 

[BGinGA]

@horseshoez, I'm willing to be the trustee for the funds. Please PM me if interested.

 

[horseshoez]

I have not been criticising @horseshoez and I 'm praising him for what he does in this thread.
I just had to correct some terms used by him in some side comments of his, which were inaccurate and unfair to my nation.
Period.

I appreciate the praise. I only relayed what the humanitarian efforts were aimed at, what really happened and all the politics behind it isn’t my specialty to dissect. Everything that happened during that time was unfair, to Syria, Greece, you name it. Political discussion over. Not the thread for it or time to get butt hurt over our respective countries that we love.

 

[davislane]

Perfectly okay with this!

Completely agree a more long-standing member would be preferable.

Id say you would still be able to assist from a "verifications" point of view as you definitely have the skills to do so.

 

[horseshoez]

@horseshoez, I'm willing to be the trustee for the funds. Please PM me if interested.

Yes sir. PM coming. Fair enough given the extensive history on PCF, knowing everybody and possibly even their next of kin. @ImCrossland thanks for stepping up to the plate. You’re awesome. Safe to say I think majority if not all will not object to Dave taking on this role.

 

[Lemonzest]

@horseshoez, I'm willing to be the trustee for the funds. Please PM me if interested.

We are looking for a trusted member in good standing.

 

[RudysNYC]

These are legitimate points and with good intent.

That said, I'm auctioning things off for the benefit of folks like @RudysNYC whom are young bucks still finding their way in this hobby that are out lots of money because of this. Having been in his position not too long ago living alone in my 20's while working through paying off living expenses and paying my own way through grad school, I have a pit in my stomach in empathizing how he and those out money must feel.

No one deserves to be scammed out of their hard earned cash, regardless of whether you make $60,000/year or $600,000/year.

I’m continually amazed by the incredible people on this forum

I may not *like* a select few people, but I’d happily jump in a foxhole with any of you guys. Not to be that sap, but I’m tremendously happy to have found this group of like-minded people.

Looks like I’ll be spending a significant time in North Jersey for the next three years (law school…) so I hope to one day catch a steak and some 1/2 with you @JMC9389, you’re a class act

 

[Payback]

So let me get this straight. We are sending money to a random Internet person to make whole people who got ripped off sending money to a random Internet person?

And had the option to use Goods and Services but didn't to save 3%.

 

[ekricket]

If he took my money and I knew for certain who he was. I would be making calls to his place of work, friends and family and letting them know what he has been up to in his new hobby.

If my work, wife or friends got a call from someone reasonable letting them know I scammed people out of $20,000 there would be hell to pay in my life....

I don’t understand why people aren’ doing a full Boscoe doxing scenario. I mean you guys published his email, phone number, pictures of his wife, emails to his local chamber of commerce, and even contacted his Sunday school teacher.
This guy you just let walk around.

somethings rotten in Denmark - this whole thing smells reallly really bad

 

[horseshoez]

I don’t understand why people agent doing a full Boscoe doxing scenario. I mean you guys published his email, phone number, pictures of his wife, emails to his local chamber of commerce, and even contacted his Sunday school teacher.
This guy you just let walk around.

somethings rotten in Denmark - this whole thing smells reallly really bad

I've honestly done all I can to help from my end, Kevin. Not sure what to tell you or what the next steps would be regarding collecting from that end.

 

[ekricket]

I've honestly done all I can to help from my end, Kevin. Not sure what to tell you or what the next steps would be regarding collecting from that end.

I’d suggest someone take his name to the local police and see if he’s involved in other things.
1st step is register a complaint with the authorities, not start collecting money. Part of that would be turning over all the info you have collected so far to their criminal complaint department.
2nd step would be to see what happens there. Maybe poppin gets the money back when threatened with legal action
Only after all that would I be talking restitution funds.
First it was wait a few days, now it’s gather as much money as fast as possible. WTF?

 

[Bill_Man618]

I don’t understand why people aren’ doing a full Boscoe doxing scenario. I mean you guys published his email, phone number, pictures of his wife, emails to his local chamber of commerce, and even contacted his Sunday school teacher.
This guy you just let walk around.

somethings rotten in Denmark - this whole thing smells reallly really bad

What?!?!?!? That’s super excessive if you ask me. Like why? I think letting Poopin walk is kinda ridiculous and we the community are paying the price to right his wrong. I don’t think we should necessarily dox the guy, but a significant and thoughtful effort should be made to make everyone whole. I get the guy lives in Denmark, but there’s still a good bit you can do in terms of collecting on the debt. At the very least I’d send all the info I had to the police in his area who could try and do something. $20k is a lot of money so I’d expect it to be taken somewhat seriously especially since it’s a fraud case and it’s international.

 

[RudysNYC]

I’d suggest someone take his name to the local police and see if he’s involved in other things.

We’ve got like 20 people across almost as many jurisdictions; as much as I’d love this to be the town of Mayberry, the “local police” are worthless.

plus, to put it mildly, European countries are pretty terrible at the whole “restitution” thing lmfao

 

[ekricket]

We’ve got like 20 people across almost as many jurisdictions; as much as I’d love this to be the town of Mayberry, the “local police” are worthless.

plus, to put it mildly, European countries are pretty terrible at the whole “restitution” thing lmfao

His local police. I’m sure they have a fraud department. You may feel wronged here - But the crime happened over there and they will take it seriously - especially when
Multiple people from multiple countries are involved.

 

[ekricket]

Why do so many people not want to go to the police? Is there some money laundering going on?
first it was wait - why?
Now it’s cover up for the guy - why?
This is wrong on so many levels