It’s official, “THC” fake is a thing now (2 Viewers)

[DirtyTIVA]

I’m mean there are some fine lines that exist that folks may or may not care about.

I think for many, tributes and a tip of the cap in a chip set order can be good or bad but fall into a huge chasm for most of “meh”, not earth shattering.

But copy exactly the Adolfos or Waikems or Truman’s or Moonlight Cardhouse and im guessing all the prospective owners wouldn’t be overly impressed with that persons lack of respect/decorum.

I don’t think it’s all or nothing, I think there can be buckets. For me personally idk where everything else Tina falls, but copying 1 of 1 or 2 sets/customs where we know the owners - that’s malarkey.

With the ease of customization that Tina offers and the abundance of digital graphic design these days, I think it's unavoidable that closer and closer versions will be produced by an economy with no regard for IP. Maybe PCF should explicitly state in the TOS what is not acceptable and enforce it, or as I've suggested previously carve out a whole separate section for Tina. I just don't think new members should be slapped around for wanting the cheap shinies- all I'm trying to say.

 

[UniLover]

With the ease of customization that Tina offers and the abundance of digital graphic design these days, I think it's unavoidable that closer and closer versions will be produced by an economy with no regard for IP. Maybe PCF should explicitly state in the TOS what is not acceptable and enforce it, or as I've suggested previously carve out a whole separate section for Tina. I just don't think new members should be slapped around for wanting the cheap shinies- all I'm trying to say.

Great idea. Rolex Forum doesn't allow replicas in the classifieds, just saying.

 

[BarrieJ3]

Great idea. Rolex Forum doesn't allow replicas in the classifieds, just saying.

I’m pretty sure my joke domain registration for pokerchipsforum has expired, but I’m positive I still have others registered like pokerchipesforum or pokerchippiesforum.com registered.

We can just send all TinaHCs there!

 

[Gunnar]

hybrids are changing the game, hybrids are great. Custom bright colors and cheap prices. But stealing artwork and designs is not cool and it will kill the chips in the casinos eventually.

Sure there are fake Rolexes and fake wallets and bags but they are not being used as currency by drunk people that can’t tell them apart. I give it 5-10 years where most chips will be RFID plastics with digital tables and counting stations to cash out where the stack is scanned instead of just counted.

 

[ekricket]

hybrids are changing the game, hybrids are great. Custom bright colors and cheap prices. But stealing artwork and designs is not cool and it will kill the chips in the casinos eventually.

Sure there are fake Rolexes and fake wallets and bags but they are not being used as currency by drunk people that can’t tell them apart. I give it 5-10 years where most chips will be RFID plastics with digital tables and counting stations to cash out where the stack is scanned instead of just counted.

lol it will be a casino app on your phone that keeps track of the “bankroll” you authorize at the casino. You will place your bets and collect your winnings on your phone through their app. Tips will be auto deducted but you will have a choice of 30% or 50%.

Why would they spend money in technology like electronic tables and stuff when they can just do it all electronically like virtual casinos do now. You will just get to buy overpriced drinks while you sit at a table with a router in the middle of it and chat with total strangers.

 

[DirtyTIVA]

Great idea. Rolex Forum doesn't allow replicas in the classifieds, just saying.

Plenty of folks leaving r/rolex for r/reptime

 

[Geremie]

Can we label them as TFC (Tina fake cane)?

TFC! TFC!

 

[Gear]

Like trying to spot baking soda in cocaine.

That seems suspiciously specific

 

[DirtyTIVA]

That seems suspiciously specific

Suspicious…

 

[TheRealTeddyKGB]

On a related note @TheRealTeddyKGB recently found some reproduction US $100 bills on Amazon that while by themselves feel light vs the real thing, if they are mixed in with real $100s I think it would be very difficult to spot in quantity. Like trying to spot baking soda in cocaine.

Sure the bills say "Motion Picture Association" etc etc but who is reading the text on bills these days? Maybe Marc can share some pics here. His version comes folded up with a rubber band and not all the same orientation. Stay safe people.

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At least my version comes in bundles that are easier to spot.

Thanks Karl. I just lost my Baller status...

 

[DirtyTIVA]

Thanks Karl. I just lost my Baller status...
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You’ll always be a baller in my book Marc

 

[Minus]

Hypothetical:
eBay listing looks legit enough, but buyer claims they got fake plastic 'THC' chips- did the seller send them fakes, or is the buyer doing a switcheroo? And who does eBay side with?

Classified sale on PCF, same question. The pictures are real THCs with the username and current date, and even the seller's post history suggests that they should have the real thing in their possession. But the buyer says they got fakes. How do you tell who's the impostor?

I dunno, just feels like more of a 'when' than an 'if'.

 

[Budha]

I don't have to think hard to recall quite a large number of members appearing to be totally fine with criminality. Surely it can't be a stretch to just write off this whole "fake chip" thing. It's just a fraud, right? No one got hurt.

The path to Hell starts with a single step -=- DrStrange

sanctimonious much?

 

[doublebooyah85]

hybrids are changing the game, hybrids are great. Custom bright colors and cheap prices. But stealing artwork and designs is not cool and it will kill the chips in the casinos eventually.

Sure there are fake Rolexes and fake wallets and bags but they are not being used as currency by drunk people that can’t tell them apart. I give it 5-10 years where most chips will be RFID plastics with digital tables and counting stations to cash out where the stack is scanned instead of just counted.

This is a very solid well thought prediction. All chips $25 and even probably $5 and up will have RFID and be quickly scanned in and out at all tables soon enough.

It cannot be understated chips r not leaving the casino floor. It COMPLETELY demonetizes cash value increasing the amount gamblers are willing to wage.

Hypothetical:
eBay listing looks legit enough, but buyer claims they got fake plastic 'THC' chips- did the seller send them fakes, or is the buyer doing a switcheroo? And who does eBay side with?

Classified sale on PCF, same question. The pictures are real THCs with the username and current date, and even the seller's post history suggests that they should have the real thing in their possession. But the buyer says they got fakes. How do you tell who's the impostor?

I dunno, just feels like more of a 'when' than an 'if'.

glad I’m done buying as much as I had

 

[doublebooyah85]

This is a very solid well thought prediction. All chips $25 and even probably $5 and up will have RFID and be quickly scanned in and out at all tables soon enough.

It cannot be understated chips r not leaving the casino floor. It COMPLETELY demonetizes cash value increasing the amount gamblers are willing to wage.

glad I’m done buying as much as I had

Not only scanned but similar to high limit tables the playing field where a player bets will be outlined where to place your bet with rfid scanners beneath them.

They do this at high limit blackjack already to catch players counting cards and observe high variance betting etc (10x betting when count is favorable etc triggers security)

 

[ThinkingFold]

It cannot be understated chips r not leaving the casino floor. It COMPLETELY demonetizes cash value increasing the amount gamblers are willing to wage.

Have to disagree with this. Think casino's would be fine with physical chips leaving. One of gambling executives biggest concerns is hands per hour. Any electronic machine with significantly outpace its "brick and mortar" counterpart.

If you read "The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King" there are sections that talk about how when the new casinos were going up along the strip, poker players had to beg Sheldon Adelson and Steve Wynn to have any poker rooms as they both viewed poker as a money loser because of how slow it plays. They wanted as many slot machines as possible because of how fast they play.

And for the record, I hate the new electronic black jack, roulette, and craps tables that are popping up.

 

[upNdown]

Have to disagree with this. Think casino's would be fine with physical chips leaving. One of gambling executives biggest concerns is hands per hour. Any electronic machine with significantly outpace its "brick and mortar" counterpart.

If you read "The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King" there are sections that talk about how when the new casinos were going up along the strip, poker players had to beg Sheldon Adelson and Steve Wynn to have any poker rooms as they both viewed poker as a money loser because of how slow it plays. They wanted as many slot machines as possible because of how fast they play.

And for the record, I hate the new electronic black jack, roulette, and craps tables that are popping up.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with that, but I read something here that Vegas (or Nevada) passed some laws at some point to prevent casino chips from being used as currency outside of the casinos.

I don’t remember the specifics but maybe somebody does.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Have to disagree with this. Think casino's would be fine with physical chips leaving. One of gambling executives biggest concerns is hands per hour. Any electronic machine with significantly outpace its "brick and mortar" counterpart.

If you read "The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King" there are sections that talk about how when the new casinos were going up along the strip, poker players had to beg Sheldon Adelson and Steve Wynn to have any poker rooms as they both viewed poker as a money loser because of how slow it plays. They wanted as many slot machines as possible because of how fast they play.

And for the record, I hate the new electronic black jack, roulette, and craps tables that are popping up.

I think there may be some miscommunication.

Casinos will keep using chips? On the floor. Players can leave w them, but the casino won’t be replacing them with electronic transactions.

PS Great book but not as good as positively 5th street!

 

[Budha]

I don’t know if this has anything to do with that, but I read something here that Vegas (or Nevada) passed some laws at some point to prevent casino chips from being used as currency outside of the casinos.

I don’t remember the specifics but maybe somebody does.

I think you’re correct, IIRC it’s been that way for a long time. It’s always been my understanding anyway. (But that’s not really saying much - lol)

 

[upNdown]

I think you’re correct, IIRC it’s been that way for a long time. It’s always been my understanding anyway. (But that’s not really saying much - lol)

I just happened to be on my laptop and so I saw your signature - you are a very wise man.

 

[Budha]

I just happened to be on my laptop and so I saw your signature - you are a very wise man.

I totally forgot about that .

 

[ekricket]

I don’t know if this has anything to do with that, but I read something here that Vegas (or Nevada) passed some laws at some point to prevent casino chips from being used as currency outside of the casinos.

I don’t remember the specifics but maybe somebody does.

This is true. It is also unenforceable except by the receiving person not accepting it. Things pretty much haven’t changed.
Nobody anywhere in Vegas is going to turn down chips as payment.

 

[BGinGA]

This is true. It is also unenforceable except by the receiving person not accepting it. Things pretty much haven’t changed.
Nobody anywhere in Vegas is going to turn down chips as payment.

The real problem is that the issuing casino is under no obligation to redeem the chips if the person cannot prove the chips were either won or purchased from the casino.

It may be unenforceable, but it's risky from an 'accept as cash' premise.

 

[inapinch]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1461045035...l74-kcxQrS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[EverGreenGSO]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1461045035...l74-kcxQrS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Ehhh boyyyyy PCF'ers are about to lose their collective shits

 

[upNdown]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1461045035...l74-kcxQrS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Damn, that’s a see you next Tuesday move. Do we know who’s responsible for this theft?

Wow. I didn’t expect to see “Defend the honor of Tigers” on my scorecard for today.

 

[pocketJs]

Ehhh boyyyyy PCF'ers are about to lose their collective shits

I guess it helps that they look….not good….

 

[EverGreenGSO]

Damn, that’s a see you next Tuesday move. Do we know who’s responsible for this theft?

Wow. I didn’t expect to see “Defend the honor of Tigers” on my scorecard for today.

Even me Mr. "Who Gives a F what gets copied" is on board with you on this one

This is effed up

 

[ekricket]

Damn, that’s a see you next Tuesday move. Do we know who’s responsible for this theft?

Wow. I didn’t expect to see “Defend the honor of Tigers” on my scorecard for today.

Hahahaha it’s Mario and the hard candy mafia! Laughing my ass off all day.


Hahahaha rofl literally

 

[Rieguy]

Damn, that’s a see you next Tuesday move.

You can say c*nt here, especially since PCF is nice enough to auto-asterisk it!

I also love how laughably bad the chips themselves are. Again proving that people who copy are just so lazy and talentless when there are millions of combos and options you can have.