It’s official, “THC” fake is a thing now (12 Viewers)

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Owners are moving Overseas and need to Eliminate some Valued Belongings.
PBE Palm Beach Estates

These are beautiful, these are new, however during the move the boxes were lost.

This is an odd lot for us since we deal primarily with clothing. From this Estate Sale, once the owners depart the home, whatever is in the closet gets sold.


This offering is for 1 of 2 sets remaining.
PBE Palm Beach Estates is your a gateway to some of the world’s most coveted luxury clothing, once owned by vast estates and where treasures are available to shoppers of all kinds. From designer fashion of all countries to the prestige of select high-end items for those who seek to elevate their lives with a touch of luxury.


From Smoke Free home
Item well cared for and never used."


All of this is gold, what a lame scam.
 
You can say c*nt here, especially since PCF is nice enough to auto-asterisk it!

I also love how laughably bad the chips themselves are. Again proving that people who copy are just so lazy and talentless when there are millions of combos and options you can have.
Yeah, if I ever implied that anybody with access to a full-color palette could design decent looking chips, 1000 pardons please. Those are hideous.
 
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Owners are moving Overseas and need to Eliminate some Valued Belongings.
PBE Palm Beach Estates

These are beautiful, these are new, however during the move the boxes were lost.

This is an odd lot for us since we deal primarily with clothing. From this Estate Sale, once the owners depart the home, whatever is in the closet gets sold.



This offering is for 1 of 2 sets remaining.
PBE Palm Beach Estates is your a gateway to some of the world’s most coveted luxury clothing, once owned by vast estates and where treasures are available to shoppers of all kinds. From designer fashion of all countries to the prestige of select high-end items for those who seek to elevate their lives with a touch of luxury.


From Smoke Free home
Item well cared for and never used."

I'm not much of an Ebayer, but this is 80% of their feedback. Is this as stupid as it looks or is that a premade feedback you can click?

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Fyi, Tina does not have this mold only the “small hat and cane” that’s we’ve seen thus far
 
Really enjoying these threads. Something tells me it's only going to keep getting better as the "tribute sets" continue to improve.

Magic the Gathering has dealt with a similar issue as Chinese fakes became easy to purchase. Does it increase odds of an uneducated person getting scammed? Yes. Will it affect the price of the originals? Not really.

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Will it affect the price of the originals? Not really.
I can only speak for myself, but I think most of us who object to these fakes are misunderstood.
I honestly don’t give a shit if or how these copies affect the value of the original chips. This isn’t about money.

I’d probably feel the same way about knockoff Magic cards, but you can at least justify those. Rare cards can give you a competitive advantage. That’s a completely different thing than rare poker chips.
 
Personally, I don’t really give a sh*t what people do with their own money, but I just don’t get the desire to buy knock-offs of original products or designs, regardless of price or quality, nor do I understand the surprise from owners of said knock-offs when they fail to garner a positive reaction from others.

To me, it’s akin to posting photos of a fake Patek Philippe on a watch collectors forum or rolling up to a Porsche owners meetup in a kit car and then wondering why people aren’t excited about it.
 
I can only speak for myself, but I think most of us who object to these fakes are misunderstood.
I honestly don’t give a shit if or how these copies affect the value of the original chips. This isn’t about money.

I’d probably feel the same way about knockoff Magic cards, but you can at least justify those. Rare cards can give you a competitive advantage. That’s a completely different thing than rare poker chips.
What is it about then? The sanctity of some countries’ copyright laws? Someone’s artwork being copied? Someone’s copy of someone else’s artwork being copied? I get it, but just where is the line drawn and who gets to decide that?

The only thing that concerns me is an innocent party being ripped off. There’s never a way to prevent this 100% though. A sucker and his money, etc.
 
I bought this set for $15 off Facebook Marketplace last year for shits n giggles. I was going to use the case for a chip project. TH&C are printed on, not an inlay. Chips are light as a feather. Somewhere here on PCF this set was debated...probably under J Pressman if you're interested.

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Edit: I looked it up. Not much.
Thread 'For all of you J Pressman fans. Not sure if it is a thing or not.' https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...-fans-not-sure-if-it-is-a-thing-or-not.70047/
 
To me, it’s akin to posting photos of a fake Patek Philippe on a watch collectors forum or rolling up to a Porsche owners meetup in a kit car and then wondering why people aren’t excited about it.

Actually a kit Porsche would probably attract a lot of positive attention at a meetup!

And Patek owners are fascinated by my clone at 1% of the price.
 
Actually a kit Porsche would probably attract a lot of positive attention at a meetup!

And Patek owners are fascinated by my clone at 1% of the price.
Hey, I get it. There are dupes everywhere, some of extremely high quality. Heck, there are replica watches out there that I’d be hard pressed to identify as fakes.

Would I own one? No.
Do I get why some people like them or find them interesting? Sure.
Do I understand why just as many take issue with them? Also sure.
Do I think that dupes of collectibles deserve to be showcased alongside originals? Not at all.
 
Hey, I get it. There are dupes everywhere, some of extremely high quality. Heck, there are replica watches out there that I’d be hard pressed to identify as fakes.

Would I own one? No.
Do I get why some people like them or find them interesting? Sure.
Do I understand why just as many take issue with them? Also sure.
Do I think that dupes of collectibles deserve to be showcased alongside originals? Not at all.
Best take imo. If everyone thought this way, these threads wouldn’t exist though.
 
What is it about then? The sanctity of some countries’ copyright laws? Someone’s artwork being copied? Someone’s copy of someone else’s artwork being copied? I get it, but just where is the line drawn and who gets to decide that?

The only thing that concerns me is an innocent party being ripped off. There’s never a way to prevent this 100% though. A sucker and his money, etc.
All those things and so many more.
Here’s one that doesn’t get mentioned often. And there’s some irony in it, because with my anti-copies attitude, I’ve been accused of gatekeeping.
This is a difficult hobby to break into. There aren’t any guidebooks or price guides. There’s no Casino Chips for Dummies. There’s a crazy amount of knowledge in this hobby that’s simply passed by word of mouth (and sadly, some of the guys with the most knowledge are aging out.)
So it’s incredibly hard for a new guy to know whether a chip is worth twenty cents or twenty dollars. And it’s not like most chips have any kind of provenance. There’s exactly one store in the world, where you could walk in and speak with experts. The only way to know what a chip is, is to learn everything you can about chips, so you can try to identify them and value them based on pictures.
I’ve spent plenty of time explaining stuff to new guys - the differences between the RHC mold and the THC molds, the little injection nub on the face of a plastic chip or the edge of a ceramic chip - stuff like that. I WANT to help people get into this hobby.
But these knockoffs make it even more difficult. It Used to be that even if you didn’t know the difference between THC and RHC, at least you knew to look for that hat with the cane through it. Not any more. Or those pretty Aria chips - even if you know nothing about molds, you could go to the Chipguide website and see exactly what a $1 or $5 look like, if you want to identify Aria chips. Not any more.

Tl;dr - it’s a confusing hobby and even without malicious intent, these copies, knockoffs, and counterfeits make it a lot more confusing.

Tl;dr2 - I may often be an asshole, but I’m not a gatekeeper.
 

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