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Purchased 600 chips to build a cash set and gift to a buddy of mine for his birthday. New $1s x 200
New $5s x 200
New $25s x 100
New $100s x 80
New $500s x 20

Not upset because I understand things like this happen sometimes but I do think I’ll be returning the entire set if I’m not able to get new $1s as part of the set. I don’t want to gift him a bunch of old used up $1s with the rest new lol.

Anyways, we will see what happens. Thanks for everything though Jim!
 
There were 2000 used 2's left at 1:59. That means that there were at a minimum 20 full order that each got 1 rack of mint 2's. I don't think that happened, hence way I think I'm getting my chips.
Pgheddie said:
Or he already received his shipment confirmation and is posting out of guilt, lol
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Wow. I always say that the most sexy chip is Golden Nugget 100 but Jack Cincinnati Secondary is close. Love it...
 
Bill_Man618 said:
All due respect I am doubtful on that one. He had enough used chips that they lasted the entire hour.
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They only "lasted the entire hour" because people thought they got the new ones - but those were over sold. Those people are now getting the used ones - probably your used ones if you placed your order in the second hour. I suspect that none of the used chips will make it to anyone who placed an order after the first hour. Again, no way to know for sure, but I did say "likely" - and I think that is true. See post above about how many 2s and 2.50s were available to fill 2000 chip orders. Like 10 people? lol
Bill_Man618 said:
All due respect I am doubtful on that one. He had enough used chips that they lasted the entire hour. Unless he oversold by a lot I think I'll be fine.
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I think it likely he oversold by alot, lol. But again, its possible he didn't.

Bill_Man618 said:
I was 2 seconds after the 3pm mark so I'm confident I'll get them.
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The point is, it has nothing to do with how quickly you were after the 3pm mark - it has to do with how many were oversold in front of you (or how many of the multiple orders not processed by time stamp were already shipped even if placed AFTER you).

Bill_Man618 said:
Even if he oversold and has to cover all the oversells with the used chips I doubt he's going to opt to refund the orders from those who bought used chips following the 1 hour mark. As a business it would be better to refund the people who bought the oversold new chips and deal with them being unhappy rather than canceling orders from other customers to fill others orders with chips that they didn't order or might return.
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That is your opinion, and I might agree with you. But I think that is exactly NOT what he said he was going to do.

Bill_Man618 said:
Jim was ambiguous on how he was going to handle the orders placed after the 1st hour that only contain 2's or snappers though. So I'm just guessing on this based on how he handled stuff in the past.
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No, he said he was processing all remaining orders by time stamp. So ahead of your order is (1) every order that already shipped, and (2) every order that is time stamped in front of yours, and (3) every order of new chips in front of yours that was over sold.

Again, its possible you get what you want, and good luck to you. But I think there is sufficient evidence to suggest it is unlikely.
 
TheDuke said:
OK, noob. You've been a member since Feb 2021. Tell me more.

I called you out for 'just return it' as a stupid solution because you don't know anything beyond your own bubble.

You're the one who tried turning it into a socialism vs capitalist garbage discussion. And now you think it's about democracy. Ok boomer.

Apologies to Jim, I won't post further in his thread/forum. I've thread crapped way too much here.

Major credit to him for putting up with all the nonsense from folks all these years while single handedly provided chippers with hundreds of thousands of quality Paulsons.
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Glad to see I've changed your tune from crapping on Jim to a more reasonable position. You're welcome.

“Ad hominem is a notoriously weak logical argument. And is usually used to distract the focus of a discussion - to move it from an indefensible point and to attack the opponent.
~ Lord Aquitainus Attis ~ Furies of Calderon by Jim Butcher”

Google it, snowflake.
 
Pgheddie said:
They only "lasted the entire hour" because people thought they got the new ones - but those were over sold. Those people are now getting the used ones - probably your used ones if you placed your order in the second hour. I suspect that none of the used chips will make it to anyone who placed an order after the first hour. Again, no way to know for sure, but I did say "likely" - and I think that is true. See post above about how many 2s and 2.50s were available to fill 2000 chip orders. Like 10 people? lol


I think it likely he oversold by alot, lol. But again, its possible he didn't.


The point is, it has nothing to do with how quickly you were after the 3pm mark - it has to do with how many were oversold in front of you (or how many of the multiple orders not processed by time stamp were already shipped even if placed AFTER you).


That is your opinion, and I might agree with you. But I think that is exactly NOT what he said he was going to do.


No, he said he was processing all remaining orders by time stamp. So ahead of your order is (1) every order that already shipped, and (2) every order that is time stamped in front of yours, and (3) every order of new chips in front of yours that was over sold.

Again, its possible you get what you want, and good luck to you. But I think there is sufficient evidence to suggest it is unlikely.
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The new $1's were only available for 4 minutes. After that they sold out and and not everyone who purchased in the 4 minutes was a) trying for or b) didn't get the glitched sold out message. In order for Jim to have oversold by the amount you're suggesting roughly 10% of ALL orders placed would have to have gotten a rack of new $2's within the first 4 minutes. Yeah Jim oversold I personally find it unlikely that 26 people bought 2000 chips and got new $2's in the order. Snappers and $1's were more desirable to most and you could get more of them. So they may have oversold, but again not in the amount you're saying.
 
Marius L said:
It's definitely an option, just seems like it would take way more time /work than what Jim usually does. Obviously something needs to change since it's not the first time this PayPal issue happens though, so I guess it's good to share ideas. I might not remember correctly, but I have a feeling @navels said after the sale that it took way more effort and time than he was expecting, and that he might not do it that way again? (might be wrong, so I'm sorry if this is not accurate).

And to play devils advocate, with international members and different time zones, people should be allowed to take some time to reply. If some of the in demand chips are gone since the last order, the next order needs to be recalculated before it can be placed. If there are several people included in many miniGBs for each spot which I assume there would be, as it was like that in the Isabel sale, it would take a lot of time and back and forth. We would definitely also see people paying for a chance to be in one of the first groups, bringing flipping to a new level. Lol...

I agree fast clicking and luck of the draw is not the ideal world, but there are not many better alternatives to be honest. Many have been tried and suggested after previous Chiproom sales, but in the end this PayPal system has always seemed to be the best fit when all is said and done.
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Your memory is correct, what I've said elsewhere:
Some buyers backed out because I didn't have the chips they wanted by the time I got to them (totally understandable), but others picked very early backed out for no apparent reason and there were some trying to jump the line by coordinating with an early buyer. And waiting for people to respond, even when they were obviously posting on the forum, was annoying and dragged the process out. Still, I got a lot of thanks from people for giving everyone an equal chance. I'd be inclined to do it again, though, but with some kind of process in place to get more immediate commitments from buyers.
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Pgheddie said:
Glad to see I've changed your tune from crapping on Jim to a more reasonable position. You're welcome.

“Ad hominem is a notoriously weak logical argument. And is usually used to distract the focus of a discussion - to move it from an indefensible point and to attack the opponent.
~ Lord Aquitainus Attis ~ Furies of Calderon by Jim Butcher”

Google it, snowflake.
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I love that book!
 
TheDuke said:
This is a bewildering statement. I don't understand how anyone involved in the chip world would write this.

I mean, of all things, people notice new vs used. There's always a difference.

No offense, this isn't a transaction from friend to friend. Regardless if PayPal is at fault or not, these are business to customer transactions.

I mean, if I ordered something from Best Buy and I got sent an open box item I'd be super pissed. I don't care if a third party involved f'ed up. Not my problem and I wouldn't want it to be my problem.
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Try to stay classy,

with love,

literally everyone
 
Bill_Man618 said:
There were 2000 used 2's left at 1:59. That means that there were at a minimum 20 full order that each got 1 rack of mint 2's. I don't think that happened, hence way I think I'm getting my chips.
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Assuming your numbers are correct, your assuming that only 20 people placed orders for new 2s during the first hour over what stock he had?

Jim says above that 60 orders were shipped yesterday and that "most" of those people would have not received new chips except for the glitch. So your assumption regarding 20 full orders seems incredibly low (the 60 that were shipped yesterday, most of whom would not but for the glitch have received the new chips + the people not yet shipped who, by logical implication would have received the new chips). My guess is there would have to be at least 30 or so orders of new chips yet to be filled (how else could "most" of the 60 shipped yesterday not have been entitled to receive the new chips as Jim has said), which 30 orders would have to be provided the used chips ahead of you. 30 would be more than enough to exhaust the used chips before they get to your second hour order. My guess is there are much more than 30 that will have to be substituted.

Again, there is no way of knowing for certain, but just reading carefully what Jim has already said, there is lots of evidence that orders after the first hour won't be getting the limited chips. But again, best of luck to you - if nothing else your positive thinking should be rewarded.
 
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Pgheddie said:
Glad to see I've changed your tune from crapping on Jim to a more reasonable position. You're welcome.

“Ad hominem is a notoriously weak logical argument. And is usually used to distract the focus of a discussion - to move it from an indefensible point and to attack the opponent.
~ Lord Aquitainus Attis ~ Furies of Calderon by Jim Butcher”

Google it, snowflake.
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All you Karen’s should demand to see Jim’s manager. Threaten to take your business elsewhere. Yell about your rights to poker chips because “you were here first”, and wave a copy of your time stamp around.
You guys don’t even know who or how much was affected yet, but some of you are already making nasty assumptions and insinuating things that aren’t fair.
Jim is just a guy running a business selling luxuries. Sometime stuff happens.
 
Seems there is a lot of confusion, so I've done the math for everyone...
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Results:
Some people are getting the chips they ordered; others are not.
 
Stufflymcstuff said:
My order went well though 1m50s after game time. Fingers crossed. o_O
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bleep bloop bleep..
You would normally have a 68.5498766390272% chance of receiving all the chips you ordered, but since you crossed your fingers, you now have a 73.8796960865% chance... and may also find a penny, heads up, on your next walk outside.
 
Bill_Man618 said:
The new $1's were only available for 4 minutes. After that they sold out and and not everyone who purchased in the 4 minutes was a) trying for or b) didn't get the glitched sold out message. In order for Jim to have oversold by the amount you're suggesting roughly 10% of ALL orders placed would have to have gotten a rack of new $2's within the first 4 minutes. Yeah Jim oversold I personally find it unlikely that 26 people bought 2000 chips and got new $2's in the order. Snappers and $1's were more desirable to most and you could get more of them. So they may have oversold, but again not in the amount you're saying.
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Jim said he shipped 60 orders yesterday and most of them wouldn't have gotten the new chips. That means that there are probably at least 30 orders ahead of those shipped orders that won't be getting the new chips. Now, maybe everyone only ordered a barrel of the 2s and not a full rack. I have no way of knowing.

But if it was only a few peoples orders that were effected, I doubt the announcement would be so large. He would have contacted those, say, 10 people individually.

I am just trying to manage everyone's expectations. From what Jim has said, there seems to be lots of evidence that 2nd hour purchasers, even of used chips, aren't going to make it though unless all the purchasers of over sold new chips decline the used ones. I don't think that is likely either, but again - possible. But even in that event, that won't all be sorted out for weeks, I expect.
 
Pgheddie said:
Jim said he shipped 60 orders yesterday and most of them wouldn't have gotten the new chips. That means that there are probably at least 30 orders ahead of those shipped orders that won't be getting the new chips. Now, maybe everyone only ordered a barrel of the 2s and not a full rack. I have no way of knowing.

But if it was only a few peoples orders that were effected, I doubt the announcement would be so large. He would have contacted those, say, 10 people individually.

I am just trying to manage everyone's expectations. From what Jim has said, there seems to be lots of evidence that 2nd hour purchasers, even of used chips, aren't going to make it though unless all the purchasers of over sold new chips decline the used ones. I don't think that is likely either, but again - possible. But even in that event, that won't all be sorted out for weeks, I expect.
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We appreciate you managing our expectations for us.

Why don’t you let Jim worry about managing our expectations rather than throwing in conjecture.
 
Pgheddie said:
Jim said he shipped 60 orders yesterday and most of them wouldn't have gotten the new chips. That means that there are probably at least 30 orders ahead of those shipped orders that won't be getting the new chips. Now, maybe everyone only ordered a barrel of the 2s and not a full rack. I have no way of knowing.

But if it was only a few peoples orders that were effected, I doubt the announcement would be so large. He would have contacted those, say, 10 people individually.

I am just trying to manage everyone's expectations. From what Jim has said, there seems to be lots of evidence that 2nd hour purchasers, even of used chips, aren't going to make it though unless all the purchasers of over sold new chips decline the used ones. I don't think that is likely either, but again - possible. But even in that event, that won't all be sorted out for weeks, I expect.
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Dear PCF Expectations Manager, please see my previous posts regarding maths and such...
 
Pgheddie said:
Jim said he shipped 60 orders yesterday and most of them wouldn't have gotten the new chips. That means that there are probably at least 30 orders ahead of those shipped orders that won't be getting the new chips. Now, maybe everyone only ordered a barrel of the 2s and not a full rack. I have no way of knowing.

But if it was only a few peoples orders that were effected, I doubt the announcement would be so large. He would have contacted those, say, 10 people individually.

I am just trying to manage everyone's expectations. From what Jim has said, there seems to be lots of evidence that 2nd hour purchasers, even of used chips, aren't going to make it though unless all the purchasers of over sold new chips decline the used ones. I don't think that is likely either, but again - possible. But even in that event, that won't all be sorted out for weeks, I expect.
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No matter how the cookie crumbles Jim's going to make it right for all of us. Chips or no chips nobody's going to get shafted. Hope everyone gets the chips they want! Personally I give everyone a 69.420% chance of getting their chips.
 
Pgheddie said:
Jim said he shipped 60 orders yesterday and most of them wouldn't have gotten the new chips. That means that there are probably at least 30 orders ahead of those shipped orders that won't be getting the new chips. Now, maybe everyone only ordered a barrel of the 2s and not a full rack. I have no way of knowing.

But if it was only a few peoples orders that were effected, I doubt the announcement would be so large. He would have contacted those, say, 10 people individually.

I am just trying to manage everyone's expectations. From what Jim has said, there seems to be lots of evidence that 2nd hour purchasers, even of used chips, aren't going to make it though unless all the purchasers of over sold new chips decline the used ones. I don't think that is likely either, but again - possible. But even in that event, that won't all be sorted out for weeks, I expect.
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Sorry got to post once more.

Who the F are you to speak on behalf of Jim to manage expectations?

Your nonsense speculation of chip amounts and time lines is complete BS and doesn't help Jim...AT ALL.

You're a complete damn noob. STFU.

Quit writing out of your ass and let Jim sort it out. He doesn't need a boob like you creating anxiety.
 
TheDuke said:
Sorry got to post once more.

Who the F are you to speak on behalf of Jim to manage expectations?

Your nonsense speculation of chip amounts and time lines is complete BS and doesn't help Jim...AT ALL.

You're a complete damn noob. STFU.

Quit writing out of your ass and let Jim sort it out. He doesn't need a boob like you creating anxiety.
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I am not speaking on behalf of anyone. I am stating what he said on behalf of himself. I don't have to be anyone to do that.

I am not trying to help Jim. I am responding to posts that seem to be contrary to facts presented as I see them. If you want to tell me anything I've attributed anything to what Jim said that is untrue, please be my guest. If you want to keep asking me who I am - well - who the f are you?

So now I am creating this anxiety? LOL Your intellect is truly dizzying. If you can't handle this level of stress, snowflake, take a xanax and stfu.
 
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TheDuke said:
Sorry got to post once more.

Who the F are you to speak on behalf of Jim to manage expectations?

Your nonsense speculation of chip amounts and time lines is complete BS and doesn't help Jim...AT ALL.

You're a complete damn noob. STFU.

Quit writing out of your ass and let Jim sort it out. He doesn't need a boob like you creating anxiety.
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Pgheddie said:
I am not speaking on behalf of anyone. I am stating what he said on behalf of himself. I don't have to be anyone to do that.

I am not trying to help Jim. I am responding to post that seem to be contrary to facts presented as I see them. If you want to tell me anything I've attributed to what Jim said is untrue, please be my guest. If you want to keep asking me who I am - well - who the f are you?

So now I am creating this anxiety? LOL Your intellect is truly dizzying.
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Please take this discussion to your personal battle thread:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/the-duke-vs-pgheddie.71203/
 
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