Official PCF Whisk(e)y Thread (87 Viewers)

[David O]

My birthday is coming up in FEB. I think I will be on the lookout for a bottle of bourbon in the 100.00 price range. That will easily be the most I have ever spent on a bottle of anything.

As I do some research I'll post some bottles to gather the opinions of the members in this thread, especially @ChaosRock . He knows what bourbon is in my wheel house

My bday is in February as well. We must do a Bday toast at the Melee

 

[detroitdad]

My bday is in February as well. We must do a Bday toast at the Melee

At the last melee I was damn near on my death bed. I think I had one beer the the entire weekend

 

[detroitdad]

My bday is in February as well. We must do a Bday toast at the Melee

Mine is the 21st BTW

 

[David O]

Mine is the 21st BTW

Mine is the 21st BTW

I am the 9th

 

[Payback]

Had some Balvenie 21 Portwood last night and really enjoyed it even though was not in my usual territory. The hint of smoke at the backend was a perfect finish to the fruity notes tasted throughout. Thankfully I picked up 2 samples of it so I can have another one at a later date. Tonight when I get home from my parents place I'm going to my bottle of Talisker 18.

 

[GoStumpy]

If you like cognac you need to try some King Louis XIII Aged for 75 years!

I honesetly have never had Cognac

$3000 for a bottle is a bit out of my price range, LOL.

If I really love them I might buy a $300 bottle *one day*

 

[David O]

I honesetly have never had Cognac

$3000 for a bottle is a bit out of my price range, LOL.

If I really love them I might buy a $300 bottle *one day*

You can get a min bottle of 50 ml for under $500

 

[GoStumpy]

Bleh damnit I really want to like a sipping liquor but I think it'll have to be something closer to 20%

 

[David O]

Bleh damnit I really want to like a sipping liquor but I think it'll have to be something closer to 20%

I have something you might want to try. I received another bottle recently so I may be getting rid of this one. I have a bottle of Sam Adams Utopias which is actually a beer but is served like a liquor and meant to be sipped. It is known as the highest proof and most expensive beer. I also comes in a pretty cool bottle and comes with a reidel glass

 

[detroitdad]

I have something you might want to try. I received another bottle recently so I may be getting rid of this one. I have a bottle of Sam Adams Utopias which is actually a beer but is served like a liquor and meant to be sipped. It is known as the highest proof and most expensive beer. I also comes in a pretty cool bottle and comes with a reidel glass

A close friend of mine is into beer like we are into chips. Of selling it and it can be shipped I'd like to see a picture of it and get a price

 

[David O]

A close friend of mine is into beer like we are into chips. Of selling it and it can be shipped I'd like to see a picture of it and get a price

I would entertain an offer on it. I have seen them priced from $400 and up. I will have to check the year but I will send you a pic in a little while.

 

[detroitdad]

I would entertain an offer on it. I have seen them priced from $400 and up. I will have to check the year but I will send you a pic in a little while.

Wow......I was going to surprise him with it. Not at that price. Thanks anyways.

Still interested in a pic if time permits.

Merry Christmas sir

 

[David O]

Wow......I was going to surprise him with it. Not at that price. Thanks anyways.

Still interested in a pic if time permits.

Merry Christmas sir

Here is a pic

 

[GoStumpy]

I am a craft beer aficionado, been into the craft beer scene for a few years now, LOVE IPA's, etc... Perhaps I should stick with what I know and love...

(I got into reviewing beer a little and had a blog www.alepinions.com )

 

[detroitdad]

Here is a pic
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My buddy is curious of the year

 

[RowdyRawhide]

Has a couple of root beer floats earlier with this. Pretty darn good

Have some of this right now watching some football. GO CHIEFS!

 

[David O]

My buddy is curious of the year

It is a 2011.

 

[pltrgyst]

If you like cognac you need to try some King Louis XIII Aged for 75 years!

Well, that's not quite right. It's named simply "Louis XIII". The minimum age of the youngest component Cognac is 40 years; their advertising claims that the oldest component Cognac is "the product of four generations" of producers, or a minimum of 50+ years.The Cognac is bottled immediately following blending, with no further maturation.

It's fine, indeed, but it's not even my favorite Cognac. Like single malt Scotches, age isn't everything.

Touring the facility is highly recommended if you ever visit Cognac. We spent an afternoon there and at Larsen Cognac in October.

 

[joseywales]

Slightly off topic, I had Tullamore Dew and Jameson Black Barrel. Some preferred the Crown Royal, but I thought the Jameson was the best of the lot.

 

[Milo013]

I have something you might want to try. I received another bottle recently so I may be getting rid of this one. I have a bottle of Sam Adams Utopias which is actually a beer but is served like a liquor and meant to be sipped. It is known as the highest proof and most expensive beer. I also comes in a pretty cool bottle and comes with a reidel glass

Strongest beer in the world is currently sitting on 34% ABV or 68 proof. Is your Sam Adams stronger than that? A couple of Nordic breweries decided to push the limit to take and retake the record a few years ago. Might even be higher now.

Edit: I was right. Jeebus, these things will KILL you.

http://hiconsumption.com/2014/02/the-10-strongest-beers-in-the-world-will-get-you-drunk-fast/

 

[Milo013]

Well, that's not quite right. It's named simply "Louis XIII". The minimum age of the youngest component Cognac is 40 years; their advertising claims that the oldest component Cognac is "the product of four generations" of producers, or a minimum of 75 years.The Cognac is bottled immediately following blending, with no further maturation.

It's fine, indeed, but it's not even my favorite Cognac. Like single malt Scotches, age isn't everything.

Touring the facility is highly recommended if you ever visit Cognac. We spent an afternoon there and at Larsen Cognac in October.

I always enjoy touring the manufacturing floor, whether a brewery or distillery, especially when it's a micro or craft operation. You really get a sense of the passion that goes into production, and the people genuinely want you to be satisfied with your visit.

 

[David O]

I always enjoy touring the manufacturing floor, whether a brewery or distillery, especially when it's a micro or craft operation. You really get a sense of the passion that goes into production, and the people genuinely want you to be satisfied with your visit.

Yes,Those are fun. I was in the business for a while and had the opportunity to take some behind the scenes tours with Coors one year and I also did one at New Belgium in Colorado. I have been planning on doing a Distillery tour at a local distillery only a few miles from the house but have yet to do it. The distillery makes a Bourbon and Vodka and is named Rebecca Creek.

Strongest beer in the world is currently sitting on 34% ABV or 68 proof. Is your Sam Adams stronger than that? A couple of Nordic breweries decided to push the limit to take and retake the record a few years ago. Might even be higher now.

Edit: I was right. Jeebus, these things will KILL you.

http://hiconsumption.com/2014/02/the-10-strongest-beers-in-the-world-will-get-you-drunk-fast/

Ok not the strongest beer but it is the strongest naturally fermented beer in the world.

 

[joseywales]

We had a conversation about strong Canadian beer last night. At what point is beer so strong that the "beer" of it is lost??? I'm no expert, but at a certain alcohol content, IMO, it's just not beer anymore. Might as well reach for the bourbon!

 

[Milo013]

I agree with you. Friends once brought me a bottle of Vodka they received at a family gathering. It was Russian. I got it because (A) they knew I like vodka, (B) they could not drink this stuff and (C) they wanted a good laugh.
If 181 proof Rum is "jet fuel", then this stuff was ROCKET PROPELLANT. There was nothing on the label to denote alcohol content, but there was a skull and crossbones motif on the main label. I tried a half shot straight as I do with any new spirit and it was all I could do to swallow it. The "best" I could manage was to cut it at a ratio of 1:15 with cola. Even then, two drinks was enough to have been feeling buzzed. In short, this was not Vodka, it was anaesthetic.

 

[ACE'S FULL]

Ok not the strongest beer but it is the strongest naturally fermented beer in the world.

What do you mean by naturally fermented? Both the Utopias and the 10 "big beers" are all fermented with beer and or wine yeast. Are you referring to the Esibock way of getting rid of all the water by freezing it and boosting the alcohol (ABV)?

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/36/

http://blog.samueladams.com/2015-utopias/

/endthreadjack

 

[David O]

What do you mean by naturally fermented? Both the Utopias and the 10 "big beers" are all fermented with beer and or wine yeast. Are you referring to the Esibock way of getting rid of all the water by freezing it and boosting the alcohol (ABV)?

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/36/

http://blog.samueladams.com/2015-utopias/

/endthreadjack

Correct. The higher ABV is achieved by freeze distillation and Utopias is distilled as a beer would be distilled.

 

[ACE'S FULL]

Correct. The higher ABV is achieved by freeze distillation and Utopias is distilled as a beer would be distilled.

There is no distillation. Its all fermentation.

 

[David O]

There is no distillation. Its all fermentation.

Correct it is not distillation which is how liquor is made. I made a mistake in writing. trying to do to many posts at the same time.

 

[pltrgyst]

....At what point is beer so strong that the "beer" of it is lost??? I'm no expert, but at a certain alcohol content, IMO, it's just not beer anymore....

This debate has been going on in the beer world for many, many years, particularly with Scottish ales, e.g. Hardy's.

You've had a very similar debate in the wine world for almost twenty years, with the alcohol content of some American reds creeping up past 16% abv.

When anything gets trendy, as IPAs have been for the past few years, brewers/distillers will seize on anything that might make their product stand out. Unfortunately, some tend to go for statistical distinction, rather than overall quality.

 

[David O]

This debate has been going on in the beer world for many, many years, particularly with Scottish ales, e.g. Hardy's.

You've had a very similar debate in the wine world for almost twenty years, with the alcohol content of some American reds creeping up past 16% abv.

When anything gets trendy, as IPAs have been for the past few years, brewers/distillers will seize on anything that might make their product stand out. Unfortunately, some tend to go for statistical distinction, rather than overall quality.

Yes, I agree. I can remember the flavored malt beverages fad. It started with a product way before its time. The product from Coors named Zima. Then it evolved to other "makternatives" that were short lived. I was interviewed by an industry magazine about these products and what trends were showing. As predicted they were short lived with products like Jack Daniels and Coke, Captain Morgan, Sky to name a few.
Then the specialty imports began which was good for the industry. Small brewers were bottling their craft beer and selling them in to the retailers which eventually were purchased by the major brewers. This was a fun time in the industry. Increased basket size because the consumer would purchase their Lite or Bud light and also purchase a six pack of a craft beer with a higher ring than domestic beer.
During all of this came the flavored, high alcohol malt beverages. This was the cheapening of beer with malt Liquors at low prices which drove down the ring but produced a lot of volume.
Sometimes the trends are good and many times they are bad in the long run but I think the brewers are starting to see I was not completely off my rocker when I would tell them that they should get back to basics. The Miller brewing team eventually listened and went back to what brought them to the race such as the plain white can and more recently the reintroduction of the "Steinie" bottle. Their trends are up and they continue to grow. Hopefully the other industries take note and realize that getting back to basics is sometimes good for an old industry.