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Poker Cheating Demonstrations (first video uploaded! Link in OP) (42 Viewers)

Machine said:
there are several ways to mark cards
Inks where you can see it through a filter, typically red or green
ink that you can smudge
nicks in the side, hard to do with plastic cards
from a manufacturer, a special dot printed in the card in a specific location within the design
Most recently I heard of a ink that you can mark on the side of the deck and use your phone camera to show sort order.
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joker80 said:
Shuffling techniques are old technology compared to this website

https://mrgamblemiami.com/
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Crazy...Never going to use bicycle cards again...
 
Saditsfact said:
I’m just kidding… but for real, great job!

Curious whether things like a sky cam might divert people trying to use misdirection? But I guess they could still hide from the camera.

Also I wonder if you should get sponsored by shuffletech/deckmate, saying don’t trust a hand shuffle, look what I can do (there’s probably another cheat even using an automated shuffler though, correct?).
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Sky cams definitely can help, however I don’t know of any friendly home games that use one, and most underground games don’t want the footage on record in case they ever get busted. Casinos are realistically the only ones who’d use surveillance on the table itself, and even then, most casinos/card rooms aren’t watching poker super closely since the casino’s money isn’t at stake.

I own two deckmates 2’s because I think they add a layer of security…not only do they shuffle fairly and quickly, but they count the deck in between each shuffle, so if someone held onto a card, the machine would let us know immediately. Maybe I should reach out to some shuffle companies and see if there’s any avenues for sponsorship haha :)
 
Saditsfact said:
Are there methods to check marked cards, like UV flash lights? I wonder if UV can detect blemishes in the cards like it can on poker chips I thought were clean... lol
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Yes, there’s definitely methods to check marked cards, and I’ll do a whole episode just on that…from pre-marked cards to markings made at the table and then to how to spot different types of markings.

It’s actually kinda funny because the back of the deck isn’t a great place to have cards marked. Between card protectors, burn cards, and difficulty seeing across the table, marked cards that utilize the back aren’t as useful as most lay people would think. But the sides of the cards are much more devastating, especially when the cheat has a clear view of the deck in the dealer’s hand.

And the new camera technology that’s able to “read” the entire deck from the side in an instant is mind blowing…it’s a whole new level of marked cards.
 
joker80 said:
Shuffling techniques are old technology compared to this website

https://mrgamblemiami.com/
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Absolutely. And being totally honest, shuffling/dealing techniques for cheating are mostly stuff of lore anymore. But there’s still people out there who might put these deceits into practice once or twice a night.

But yeah, this new technology, especially the cameras that read the markings on the side of a deck, are truly mind blowing. I’ll get into that technology and ways to counter it. :)
 
doublebooyah85 said:
Idk @TheJestyr hopefully will review this. But I imagine one way to circumvent would be to wear the contacts / glasses yourself as a defense mechanism. Not sure if they make RFID scanners…
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I’d urge hosts and players to get a pair of the glasses, or at least a sheet of film that allows you to see the markings. I’m working on sourcing a cheap option for this. I’m a huge proponent of “if we all have glasses, then no one has an advantage” kinda thing. Not saying we should wear glasses all night, but if cheats know that everyone is aware and we do random checks, then they’re deterred from trying this method.

I haven’t messed with RFID too much but I have friends who worked with this tech. I’ve reached out to them and will include it in a future episode :)
 
doublebooyah85 said:
Every game I play the host plays too
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Yeah, honestly the host has SOOO much power today with the tech available. These new cameras that read the markings on the sides of the deck are wild. The cameras can be built into phones, car keys, even the dealer’s chip tray. And NO ONE, not even the dealers could know about it.

The good part is that you can see this tech on camera. The bad part is you have to know where to look, and they’ve done a phenomenal job hiding it…
 
very cool video, thanks for doing this.

though i will say, if i ever saw anyone doing a faro shuffle at my game, that's a bit of a dead giveaway. can you faro shuffle and make it look natural?
 
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raynmanas said:
very cool video, thanks for doing this.

though i will say, if i ever saw anyone doing a faro shuffle at my game, that's a bit of a dead giveaway. can you faro shuffle and make it look natural?
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The Faro Shuffle is perfect. The deck will return to its original order when cut evenly at 26 cards and shuffled correctly eight times. - from the internet
 
ekricket said:
The Faro Shuffle is perfect. The deck will return to its original order when cut evenly at 26 cards and shuffled correctly eight times. - from the internet
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i know what it is lol, i'm asking if he is able to do one without making it so obvious.

you should see me practice them, it's a cluster
 
raynmanas said:
i know what it is lol, i'm asking if he is able to do one without making it so obvious.

you should see me practice them, it's a cluster
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lol. I typically cut the deck evenly, shuffle, then pull a packet out of the middle and shuffle, then cut evenly and shuffle, then do another middle packet and shuffle. Maybe repeat this three times for six shuffles.
But if someone is shuffling 8 times or more I get more interested in what they are doing with the cards.
 
ekricket said:
lol. I typically cut the deck evenly, shuffle, then pull a packet out of the middle and shuffle, then cut evenly and shuffle, then do another middle packet and shuffle. Maybe repeat this three times for six shuffles.
But if someone is shuffling 8 times or more I get more interested in what they are doing with the cards.
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a traditional faro shuffle requires you to line the cards up end-to-end and force them into one another, rather than riffling them, to accomplish perfect every-other. so it is very blatant when someone is doing one, as he does multiple times in his video. hence my point that if i saw someone doing that at my table, i would be incredibly suspicious.
 
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raynmanas said:
a traditional faro shuffle requires you to line the cards up end-to-end and force them into one another, rather than riffling them, to accomplish perfect every-other. so it is very blatant when someone is doing one, as he does multiple times in his video. hence my point that if i saw someone doing that at my table, i would be incredibly suspicious.
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That’s how I shuffle, end into end. But I take care to use different packets other than cutting it perfect is all I’m saying.
 
raynmanas said:
wow, really?

not sure i've ever seen that at a table. color me suspicious! :unsure:
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ekricket said:
I take care to use different packets other than cutting it perfect
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I’m much more suspicious of someone cutting the deck even each time before shuffling than I am if they shuffle corners or end to end or if the bridge the cards rather than sliding them together. I’ll video mine in a bit so you can understand what I’m saying. You seem to be stuck on something else.
 
TheJestyr said:
Yeah, honestly the host has SOOO much power today with the tech available. These new cameras that read the markings on the sides of the deck are wild. The cameras can be built into phones, car keys, even the dealer’s chip tray. And NO ONE, not even the dealers could know about it.

The good part is that you can see this tech on camera. The bad part is you have to know where to look, and they’ve done a phenomenal job hiding it…
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From that website, there was even a watch with built in camera... which was sold out (indicating there must be a lot of those out there).

I remember some casinos saying no phones at the table, no speaking other languages, but to add no keys at the table, no watches etc, would be wild.

Maybe there's a tech scanner that could be run over the cards at the least, could get intrusive to scan keys or watches etc.
 
ekricket said:
https://vimeo.com/1022908726?share=copy

Not sure if this link works.

My goal is to shuffle the cards randomly without anyone seeing the bottom cards as the deck is cut and flexed.
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This isn't a faro shuffle like he's talking about. He's talking about something like this:
If i see someone do this at the poker table i'm instantly switching to high alert.
 
WedgeRock said:
:oops:

To you are never allowed to touch a deck at a home game I am at with you.

Seriously, good info for the intended purpose, and great mechanics work. Keep those Shuffletechs running if you ever want to host a home game after putting this video out there...
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I’ve played at his game! Trust has never been an issue and the game is action to say the least!
 
WedgeRock said:
Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest he was a cheat or would cheat in a home game. I dealt with George many many years ago on a chip transaction and I found him to be extremely trustworthy.
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Yeah I was just messing around as well! Mostly wanted to highlight the game is straight up action lol
 

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