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The Official RPC Showcase thread (2 Viewers)

davislane said:
why is it that the person who sells a casino's discontinued assets is revered and worshipped yet the person who gets these precious clay discs made one way or another is a considered a villian?
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Because the person who had them made had the opportunity/choice to share more chips at lower cost with a larger number of chippers, but chose personal profit instead.
 
superchromix said:
Because the person who had them made had the opportunity/choice to share more chips at lower cost with a larger number of chippers, but chose personal profit instead.
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superchromix said:
Because the person who had them made had the opportunity/choice to share more chips at lower cost with a larger number of chippers, but chose personal profit instead.
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But then...
Gunnar said:
In a dream world you could sell these chips for 2-3$ to be nice to the community but when the next person flipps them for 10$ a piece then he is the one making the profit not you.
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I think the latter is right. The market will control and tring to sell below what the market will pay just means you're letting someone else make the profit.
 
superchromix said:
Because the person who had them made had the opportunity/choice to share more chips at lower cost with a larger number of chippers, but chose personal profit instead.
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To be fair, I don't agree with some of said persons sales methods. But let's all be real about the sums at stake here.

Who in their right mind would leave that much cash on the table and then watch as the majority of buyers turn around an resell a short while later.

That's not a knock on anyone but it's the reality when chips cost as much as they do. We are all poker players here and it would be -ev to do so lol.

Still, I must say when I first received pics of these it felt like a gut punch.
 
Samoth311 said:
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I think the latter is right. The market will control and tring to sell below what the market will pay just means you're letting someone else make the profit.
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Except, there’s no limit on the size of the order. The organizers are artificially limiting the supply, driving up the price.
 
I don't care what anybody's profit is as long as they are willing to own it. (I don't own any of these chips.) For example, yes, I bought these chips for $3 on average and I am selling them for $10 because I can, that was the plan all along , whatever. The secretive, elite, condescending nature of all of these buys is the problem in my opinion.
 
buffalojim said:
I do think that is part of the frustration, only certain people can enjoy nice things. The rest get it paraded in front of them.

Personally, I don't care about these chips, but I can understand some people's frustration or anger. I'll go back to watching my shitty hockey team get murdered. Enjoy the thread people's. Lots of feathers in here now.
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paraded? but..but.. this is a pr0n thread. or was..

The airing of the grievances is meant for the Festivus thread..

I'll just say I wasn't aware of these chips until after they were produced.

Don't blame the children for the perceived sins of the parents.. these inanimate objects never hurt anyone. ;)
 
superchromix said:
Because the person who had them made had the opportunity/choice to share more chips at lower cost with a larger number of chippers, but chose personal profit instead.
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More chips doesnt mean lower cost. Look at the resale price of Jack Detroit, Jack Cinci THCs or HSI? There were hundreds of thousands of chips combined and that still hasnt stopped the price of chips going up. Unfortunately as the amount of people entering this hobby grows, so does the demand and prices along with it.

Who is going to take a huge financial risk just for the benefit of the community so everyone else can feel good about the price they paid when they are ultimately going to be resold later at a profit?

In the spirit of being happy to be proven wrong, If someone here is willing to put in the work to organise a buy through Angel for a million plus chips that will only be sold to the community at a maximum mark up of only a $1 per chip, Ill happily put up the cash to fund the initial purchase.
 
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davislane said:
More chips doesnt mean lower cost. Look at the resale price of Jack Detroit, Jack Cinci THCs or HSI? There were hundreds of thousands of chips combined and that still hasnt stopped the price of chips going up. Unfortunately as the hobby grows so does the demand and prices along with it.

Who is going to take a risk just for for the benefit of the community so everyone else can feel good about the price they paid when they are ultimately going to be resold later at a profit?

In the spirit of being happy to be proven wrong, If someone here is willing to put in the work to organise a buy through Angel for a million plus chips that will only be sold to the community at a maximum mark up of only a $1 per chip, Ill happily put up the cash to fund the initial purchase.
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Im in for 1/2 But its gotta be 1m chips!
 
Perthmike said:
To be fair, I don't agree with some of said persons sales methods. But let's all be real about the sums at stake here.

Who in their right mind would leave that much cash on the table and then watch as the majority of buyers turn around an resell a short while later.

That's not a knock on anyone but it's the reality when chips cost as much as they do. We are all poker players here and it would be -ev to do so lol.

Still, I must say when I first received pics of these it felt like a gut punch.
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superchromix said:
Because the person who had them made had the opportunity/choice to share more chips at lower cost with a larger number of chippers, but chose personal profit instead.
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In this day and age....why would they, 1 mirrion is life changing money (for me at least).
Yes....i'm still digesting that number.
 
ImCrossland said:
I agree with this 100%. I sold 30+ racks of the Chicken Coops chips at an average price of $9/chip and just before sending them out had at least 5 instances where a buyer asked me to re-send them elsewhere because they had sold/traded them already. I knew this would happen but I was genuinely surprised that people didn't care to be courteous enough to at least wait until they had the chips in hand. Make as much money from them as you want, I have no problem with that.

My qualms are solely based on the lack of transparency (not sharing how many chips were produced or whether we were all paying the same price), which was more upsetting after hearing that others got the chips for 50% of the price that I did, at least. It was my decision to purchase them anyway and I own that. But the Jim's of the world probably wouldn't let you pay 3x the price he was selling to everybody else.

Making a profit is all good by me, especially if you worked for it and did what others cannot do. But you can go fuck yourself if you charge me significantly more than you charge everyone else because I don't know any better. I won't publicly share the organizer(s) name, but it's very telling when they message you on WhatsApp to guilt you for sharing how much you paid compared to everybody else.

Squeeze every bit of value out of them as you can because if you won't, someone else will. Just don't try to fuck me and then expect me to keep quiet about it once I find out. #MeToo
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I think I told you to auction them lol

With regards to those chickens I was dibsing for friends that were keen. But then I got an anonymous pm throwing money at me. It definitely felt dirty, but I couldn't say no to that much cash.

I think it was easier for all of us to do the right thing and be generous with one another when prices were $1-$3. But the hobby is different now and some of the funds being thrown around start getting into weeks and months worth of salary.
 
ImCrossland said:
My qualms are solely based on the lack of transparency (not sharing how many chips were produced or whether we were all paying the same price), which was more upsetting after hearing that others got the chips for 50% of the price that I did, at least. It was my decision to purchase them anyway and I own that. But the Jim's of the world probably wouldn't let you pay 3x the price he was selling to everybody else.
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TCR doesnt release quantities until after they are all sold.

Sounds like the seller knew your purchasing habits well and gave you a "tailored" purchasing experience. Rather than exclude you from the IPO only to witness you later put up a WTB for the RPC once they became public for someone else to profit, they saved you a lot of time and effort and offered the chips to you at prices you have paid in the past to acquire a set of bright shiny chips. Who knows they probably even saved you money.

#selfinflicted #victimblaming
 
davislane said:
TCR doesnt release quantities until after they are all sold.

Sounds like the seller knew your purchasing habits well and gave you a "tailored" purchasing experience. Rather than exclude you from the IPO only to witness you later put up a WTB for the RPC once they became public for someone else to profit, they saved you a lot of time and effort and offered the chips to you at prices you have paid in the past to acquire a set of bright shiny chips. Who knows then probably even saved you money.

#selfinflicted #victimblaming
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Damn you really are working hard to get a shot at a sample set ;) lol
 
ImCrossland said:
I agree with this 100%. I sold 30+ racks of the Chicken Coops chips at an average price of $9/chip and just before sending them out had at least 5 instances where a buyer asked me to re-send them elsewhere because they had sold/traded them already. I knew this would happen but I was genuinely surprised that people didn't care to be courteous enough to at least wait until they had the chips in hand. Make as much money from them as you want, I have no problem with that.

My qualms are solely based on the lack of transparency (not sharing how many chips were produced or whether we were all paying the same price), which was more upsetting after hearing that others got the chips for 50% of the price that I did, at least. It was my decision to purchase them anyway and I own that. But the Jim's of the world probably wouldn't let you pay 3x the price he was selling to everybody else.

Making a profit is all good by me, especially if you worked for it and did what others cannot do. But you can go f*ck yourself if you charge me significantly more than you charge everyone else because I don't know any better. I won't publicly share the organizer(s) name, but it's very telling when they message you on WhatsApp to guilt you for sharing how much you paid compared to everybody else.

Squeeze every bit of value out of them as you can because if you won't, someone else will. Just don't try to f*ck me and then expect me to keep quiet about it once I find out. #MeToo
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Do ya feel like Ruben???

There is no partners desk.
 
davislane said:
TCR doesnt release quantities until after they are all sold.

Sounds like the seller knew your purchasing habits well and gave you a "tailored" purchasing experience. Rather than exclude you from the IPO only to witness you later put up a WTB for the RPC once they became public for someone else to profit, they saved you a lot of time and effort and offered the chips to you at prices you have paid in the past to acquire a set of bright shiny chips. Who knows they probably even saved you money.

#selfinflicted #victimblaming
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Communicating with GPI/Angel isn’t what others make it out to be. Email them, they will email you back. Try to buy from them as a licensed casino, they’ll sell to you. Try to buy from them without being a licensed casino, they won’t sell to you. It’s not rocket science or the attempt to communicate with the President himself. Simple process than what most think.

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If the organizer / funder charged different people different amounts for the same chips, that's a good thing. It's called price discrimination, and it basically means "charge everyone whatever you think they're willing to pay". Businesses do this all the time. And it's economically beneficial for society at large, because it means that more stuff gets made and put into more people's hands at prices they can afford.

The problem is almost nobody wants to think that they've been on the receiving end of price discrimination. So businesses have to disguise it, and they have lots of ways to do so that are socially acceptable.

If you've ever bought the luxury edition of a car, congratulations, you got screwed over by price discrimination - and you did so willingly, happily, enthusiastically. The manufacturer spent $500 putting in leather seats and you paid $5000 extra for it. Their goal wasn't to make a profit on the leather; their goal was to charge you more for the car because you can afford it and the leather was just an excuse. The extra money they made by charging you more means that they can more easily afford to charge other people less. Which means they sell more cars to more people, and more people get to buy cars that they can afford - they just have to skip the leather seats. It's beneficial for everyone! You, the car companies, and the poor folks who just need a car. The only catch is that everyone has to avoid pointing out this whole arrangement, or you'll get annoyed that you overpaid so much for the leather seats.

If the organizers were really smart, they'd have bought way more chips than they lined up early sales for. The first batches get sold to the heavy spenders for stupid prices because a) they can afford it and b) they'll pay it. Then wait a while. Let the market settle down. Then start selling off the rest of the inventory to many more people at significantly lower prices. Ta Da! Price discrimination! People who can pay a lot, pay a lot - but they get the premium feel-good of having the shiny new toys first. But later on, people who can only pay a little, pay a little - they miss out on the prestige, but they eventually get the chips they want anyway, at prices they can afford. The seller makes the greatest amount of money, which is a bigger incentive to go get more chips made. Everyone wins.

... but only if nobody points out how the whole thing works, because then the people who paid more because they could afford to might start to feel like they got cheated somehow, even though they willingly paid that price.

Price discrimination benefits everyone, but it only works if you pretend it's not happening.
 

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