On the way home from SQM this weekend, @ni9n3r and I had a lively discussion about the following hand, and I decided to get some additional input on what my best play is here.
It's Sunday afternoon at the local card room, @ni9n3r and I have been playing 1/2NL for a couple of hours. He doubled up early, I'm pretty even on buy in #2. I've shown down mostly good hands, made a couple of reasonably good folds but also a couple of second-best calls. However, not long ago I 3bet shoved pre for $35 with![3s :3s: :3s:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/3s.gif)
, got four callers, and quintupled up when I boated. I'm not entirely sure what the table thought of that one.
V1 (BB, $400) seems to be a very old OMC (80s at least, maybe 90s) reg. He likes to see lots of flops, but if he's putting anything significant in the pot, he is nutted or close to it.
V2 (LP, $160) is a nutcase. Not long ago he said, "A lot of people learn poker from books. I've been playing since I was nine, and I've found that you usually shouldn't do what the books tell you." He's rebought more than once, a hundo at a time, and recently called $20 on the flop and a $60 turn shove with![Qs :qs: :qs:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/qs.gif)
on an ![Ad :ad: :ad:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/add.gif)
![7d :7d: :7d:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/7d.gif)
![5s :5s: :5s:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/5s.gif)
board.
Hero is in EP with $190.
Preflop:
Hero![Ah :ah: :ah:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/ah.gif)
raises to $10 and gets 3 callers including V1 and V2.
Flop ($40):![9h :9h: :9h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/9h.gif)
![8h :8h: :8h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/8h.gif)
![7c :7c: :7c:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/7c.gif)
V1 leads from the BB for $40. Hero and V2 call, other player folds.
Turn ($160):![9h :9h: :9h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/9h.gif)
![8h :8h: :8h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/8h.gif)
![7c :7c: :7c:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/7c.gif)
![5d :5d: :5d:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/5d.gif)
Edit: V1 checks.
My main question here is on the turn action - what do you do and why? I'm open to constructive criticism on other streets, but I'm mainly interested in how I play the turn and river to maximize value.
EDIT: Turn pot size was incorrectly stated as $120, and most of the discussion in this thread took place before it was caught.
It's Sunday afternoon at the local card room, @ni9n3r and I have been playing 1/2NL for a couple of hours. He doubled up early, I'm pretty even on buy in #2. I've shown down mostly good hands, made a couple of reasonably good folds but also a couple of second-best calls. However, not long ago I 3bet shoved pre for $35 with
![3s :3s: :3s:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/3s.gif)
![5s :5s: :5s:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/5s.gif)
V1 (BB, $400) seems to be a very old OMC (80s at least, maybe 90s) reg. He likes to see lots of flops, but if he's putting anything significant in the pot, he is nutted or close to it.
V2 (LP, $160) is a nutcase. Not long ago he said, "A lot of people learn poker from books. I've been playing since I was nine, and I've found that you usually shouldn't do what the books tell you." He's rebought more than once, a hundo at a time, and recently called $20 on the flop and a $60 turn shove with
![Qs :qs: :qs:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/qs.gif)
![3s :3s: :3s:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/3s.gif)
![Ad :ad: :ad:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/add.gif)
![7d :7d: :7d:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/7d.gif)
![5s :5s: :5s:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/5s.gif)
![2c :2c: :2c:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/2c.gif)
Hero is in EP with $190.
Preflop:
Hero
![Ah :ah: :ah:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/ah.gif)
![6h :6h: :6h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/6h.gif)
Flop ($40):
![9h :9h: :9h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/9h.gif)
![8h :8h: :8h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/8h.gif)
![7c :7c: :7c:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/7c.gif)
V1 leads from the BB for $40. Hero and V2 call, other player folds.
Turn ($160):
![9h :9h: :9h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/9h.gif)
![8h :8h: :8h:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/8h.gif)
![7c :7c: :7c:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/7c.gif)
![5d :5d: :5d:](/styles/default/pcf/cards/5d.gif)
Edit: V1 checks.
My main question here is on the turn action - what do you do and why? I'm open to constructive criticism on other streets, but I'm mainly interested in how I play the turn and river to maximize value.
EDIT: Turn pot size was incorrectly stated as $120, and most of the discussion in this thread took place before it was caught.
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