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We are playing eight handed, $0.25/$0.50, no limit Texas Hold'em. There is a $20 buy in cap to protect the weaker player - it is a friendly game. We had been playing "red king in the hole winning a pot gets a prize, but all 17 prizes are gone". The game is quite loose, semi-passive. It is starting to get late and we can hear the storm front approaching.

This is a different strategy post. Both David O and I were at the table. We will both be posting about the hand. David will be offering the villain description for me and vice-versa. David O is the Hero and the good DrStrange is the opening raiser. It is possible we aren't going to see things the same way.

Cast of characters.

Sitting in the small blind is David O. with $70. He has been solid all night, selective with his hands. Big hand of the night for him was middle set {999} played passively until later in the hand when he felted someone with top/bottom pair. Lets call him TAG with a looser limping range preflop. Post flop he is selectively aggressive, but in multiway action he tends not to have any air in his range aside from possible semi-bluffs. He has started to learn who are the soft spots at the table and how to deal with them

In the BB is a semi LAG/LP. with $50. Loose, passive preflop and a strange mix of tricky-passive / aggressive post flop. He can take strange lines and confound even the best of players. Solid winner in this game.

UTG has $70. He is tight for this game and plays fit fold post flop. Aggressive with premium hands, he does have a wide limping range.

MP1 is a bad manic with $20. He sets money on fire. Sticky, wildly aggressive at times with no logic to his betting that I can figure. Bad bad guy to catch on a heater because you will get burned. Mostly he has air though.

MP2 is the villainous DrStrange with $200+

CO has $30. Hyper loose, ultra passive preflop. Sticky! Rather aggressive post flop but she always bets $1 to $4 no matter the pot size. Let's say we all like to draw against her.

The button has $70. He is a loose-passive that is trying to be loose aggressive but can't quite bring himself to do so. He is scared money but also young/impetuous - it will be hard to figure which motive will be in play from hand to hand.

The hand:

UTG and MP1 limps. The Dr raises to $2.50. CO and Button call.

David O in the SB holds :ad: :jh:. Action is on him, fold, call or raise? If raising how much?

David also will provide us with a villain read on DrStrange and perhaps will offer different reads on the other villains as well.

Fun times! -=- DrStrange
 
With this mix of players. I think I'm calling with A/J os in this position.
 
Without being there and experiencing the flow of the game I think in this spot with a "meh" hand. I think I just call your raise and re-evaluate on the flop.
 
If I remember correctly but please correct me if I am wrong. Being in the small and having A J off I called to see the flop. I liked the A J but not being in position I with decent cards I wanted a flop. You also have to remember you do not know who is staying in with a Red King and a rag so they can win a prize. I had seen the Villain do this although he is a great player and usually raises or calls when in good position with good cards.
I totally agree with the very accurate descriptions of the players at the table although this is only the second time I have played with this group.
I would be interested in the feedback on this hand and will not let you know the outcome until @DrStrange reveals it.
To everyone again please do not forget about the caveat of the Red King in the Hole because that does change the game a bit in My opinion.
Great Game and a Great Host. Tell Annette we loved the Mexican Goulash!
 
Are the santa prizes gone (as per the Dr) or still in play at this point?
 
Yes the "red Santa" gifts were long gone.

Let me offer a villain description for DrStrange to help with the hand:

Villain has been active tonight. Certainly folding the majority of the hands but raising more than you might expect from an ABC TAG. We have seen some shabby red kings in his range, but those are likely not in play now that the promotion is over (unless he forgot). The Dr has been rather aggressive post flop - sometimes with the goods, sometimes on a solid draw and a few times with pretty sorry holdings. We have seen him table 98s and 65s, both of which he raised with preflop. His c-bet rate has been a little high maybe? What ever he has done proved to be effective. He generally shows down the winner or caught his draw to win to build the biggest stack at the table.

DrStrange
 
I concur with his description. In the previous game I played with "The Villain" he was a very conservative player and looked as if he only saw the flop less 5% of the time. I had previously read him a a tight player who would show a bit of aggressiveness when he held "the goods". This session he saw many more flops than the previous session. As Stated I had A J os and after the limps and small raise the action came to me. Hmm.... Call, raise or fold? Curios to see more input.
 
*** on to the flop ***

Well all the votes are for call. So . . .

Hero calls, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls. Six way action, $15.50 in the pot.

Flop is: :ac: :jd: :tc:

Action on Hero, check or bet? If betting, how much? Any thoughts for the hand now?

DrStrange
 
More questions:

If hero checks, is he check/raising or check/calling or check/folding?

If Hero bets - is he pot committed on a "safe" turn?
If Hero bets and gets raised, is he bet/folding or bet/calling or bet/jamming?

If the flop somehow checks through, what is Hero's plan: a) on a safe turn b) flushing turn c) 4-straight turn?

If the betting gets checked around to the CO who bets her normal $2, which can be read to mean she has a pair perhaps less than tens or :kc: :qc: {the nuts plus a redraw to the nuts}. What is hero going to do?

Dang, six way action is messy -=- DrStrange
 
I typically like to play in flow. Give the initial aggressor a chance to c-bet. So I am in the C/R camp. If the last aggressor isn't likely to c-bet, I think I'd lead out with a $7.50 bet.

If we wait for the c-bet, evaluate the bet for an appropriate raise.

I think this is a wet flop, I don't want to give anyone free cards to draw out on us.
 
Well I can assure you that the good Dr. isn't going to c-bet with pocket eights or :6h: :7h: into a six way flop. I like money enough not to do that.

DrStrange
 
I'm in C/R camp. If it makes it to Dr and he bets around ~$10 and I assume one caller between us, I'm raising to $45. At that point I'm committed. I think I only get called by KQ or a flush draw. I'd kinda like to end it right here... I actually hoping one of the players prior to the Dr donks out here to get a little more in the pot for me to take it down.
 
Can I get more info on the impending storm? Are people more likely to gambol so they can beat said storm, or will they tighten up so they have enough buying to ride it out?
 
The storm is two hours out, maybe four. The wind is blowing hard but no thunder, no lightning and no rain yet. Weather service forecasts 2-4 am and it is midnight. This is not a surprise, we got this forecast days ago. Current temp is 73. The cold front will drop that 20 degrees when it hits.

No one is gaming the storm or if they were, it would be quite a surprise.

DrStrange
 
Preflop I'm NEVER calling against a DrStrange open OOP with AJo. I'd be 3-betting pretty often depending on gameflow, folding the rest.

As played, overbet on the flop to set up a turn jam. I probably go $18. If someone ships over that, I'll re-evaluate then.
 
David O, what do you think might happen if you check the flop? You should ignore what you know about the actual hands and speculate on what might happen vs the kinds of ranges around the table.

DrStrange
 
I will speculate about the DrStrange the villain. His range is heavy with big aces, big pairs, some Broadway hands, and lesser pairs / suited connectors.

Villain probably likes the flop for a big chunk of his range. AT+ likes it - two pair or Top pair/good kicker with a gut shot draw. TT/JJ/AA made set. KK/QQ hate the ace on a six way hand, might not c-bet

Two Broadway cards (not an ace) makes two pair, the nuts or a pair plus gut shot draw at the nut. Rarely villain holds a club draw plus broadway draw - but if that happened expect fireworks. I would put more stock in a club draw if the ace of clubs could be in villain's hand.

We would expect villain to check fold a weak pair or two undercards unless they were a club connector.

Let's just guess that DrStrange is likely to bet 60% of the time if checked to and all of those bets are for value or semibluffs - 0% complete air.

DrStrange
 
Sorry it looks like a busy week so I will be brief but wanted to participate! My guess is if I checked the flop the villain still has a small raise to invite action and if he held a winner or a draw he is still betting a half to full pot raise. By betting in to the pot with a small bet he could possibly draw more action from the loose players and the other "calling Stations" at the table. So how would the villain play out?
 
Not many opinions yet. One solid check/raise vote. One vote for check raise but only if the Dr. can be counted on to C-bet (which we guess might be 60% or so.)

Come on up ladies and gents - take a stab at giving our Hero and villain the benefit of your wisdom.

DrStrange
 
I donk bet for $11, and if anyone other than Doc raises, give serious consideration to folding. If Doc raises, jam city. Because eff that nitty bastage.
 
*** One step further in ***

Hero bets $10, BB calls, MP1 folds.

Original raiser makes it $50 to go.

CO and button fold.

Action on Hero. Pot is $85.50, Hero owes $40 to catch up. Hero has $57.50 left behind.

Do we suggest that Hero fold, call or raise all-in? How are we ranging Villain?

DrStrange
 
He could easily have AK or AQ, much more likely than AA or JJ in my opinion, since we have blockers to both of those hands. Maybe he even has AT and we are in great shape. He could have KQ of course, or TT, and we'll need to improve. and I suppose he could have JQcc or JKcc, or even 89cc. I think we should probably just get it in here, villain priced himself in and is never folding here when he is behind, unless he is on a stone bluff (unlikely).
 

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