When you do what is right and pay me my money that you owe me things can start moving other then that I don't know what else to tell you.
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BEWARE - PCF MEMBER MIKE MAC (2 Viewers)
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Here we go with more ransom demands. I think a certain Russian fellow said it best …
Even Teddy paid out when he lost!
Jonesey07
4 of a Kind
Dude, GTFO.
Davin, what does he owe you? I'll pitch in a few bucks to cover this scumbag.
He owes $200. I'm in for $20. Meaning I offer to donate $20 to @davin to help make him whole so we can move on. He shouldn't have allowed someone to float a raffle but he was trying to be nice to a fellow chipper and I'd rather step forward and absorb the loss as a community than have him take the entire hit for being a nice guy.
I'll pitch in as well. It's a cheap way to get rid of this scumbag.
Also in for 20.
Jonesey07
4 of a Kind
I'll throw $20 in.
LOL at the above comment!!!
Davin tries to be a good guy helping this scumbag out and he gets part of the blame?!?!?!? That's preposterous...
Klobberer
Full House
Can you guys just chill!? Both sides. How about this? I'm in for the whole 200! I'll deal with Mike and the rest of you can calm down! Will some moderator just lock this thread...
Wils
Flush
Yeah at this stage I'd do this all in PM's - otherwise you're kinda giving someone the impression they're off the hook.
Klobberer
Full House
Davin, money is on the way.
I understand what he is trying to say but "culpability" is probably the wrong word. If someone extends credit they are not responsible for a dealing going bad. Lenders are being charitable and assuming the best about the borrower. If the borrower betrays that trust then the culpability is 100% on them.
Maybe what he is trying to say though is that by lending you open the door to deals going sideways. While true, I like to think that assuming the best about others encourages them to act accordingly.
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
Well, @davin is to blame for extending credit and running the raffle without all payments collected. This situation never happens if Davin insists on payment up front.
But Davin's blame for trusting a forum member is certainly different than @Mike mac's blame for not paying as promised. Davin did go a little overboard at the start of this thread.
Both created the problem, one is at fault for getting us to where we are at today.
Edit: Stand up gesture, @Klobberer, but I hope Mike squares up what he agreed to do. Until he does, the issue isn't over, he's still a scammer and this thread (in it's redacted form) is appropriate.
Klobberer
Full House
It's done. Money is sent.
Can we start the required beatings until moral improves?
Jimulacrum
Full House
That's very generous of you, @Klobberer. Good luck recouping it.
I'm almost tempted to start a group PM where we bet on the results.
I'm almost tempted to start a group PM where we bet on the results.
Money recieved, finally we can move on
Thanks @Klobberer I hope you receive your chips in a timely manner from @Mike mac
Thanks @Klobberer I hope you receive your chips in a timely manner from @Mike mac
Chippy McChiperson
Straight Flush
Hey guys, I'm thinking about maybe scamming someone out of $200, but putting the blame on them. If you guys want to chip in and just give me $200 we can avoid all this nonsense.
I am thinking about cheating on my wife but then blaming her for it. If you could just send me $200 with Paypal F&F that'd be great.
Payment sent. I feel for you.
DJ Mack
Flush
Excellent ... Grama bought Worm's debt. I'll make the popcorn.
I just edited Klobberers full name off Davin’s last post. Please don’t publish members private information on the site. We will consider requests to edit the thread title and feedback at Devins request if he can’t edit it himself. Members should be able to edit their own posts. The thread will not be deleted.
You are exhibiting classic douchebag behavior. Just GTFO and scam somewhere else. Nobody owes you anything for the mess you created for yourself entirely by youself.
Sorry about that Jeff I didn't realize that his name was in there, just was showing it was paid
MacGrad
3 of a Kind
I know this is up to @davin and the mods , but I wouldn't be too quick to change the title of, and/or delete, this thread... or adjust the feedback for a couple of reasons:
1. If we're being honest, @Mike mac never actually paid Davin -- @Klobberer paid him what he was owed, but that doesn't change the interactions between Mike and Davin... and if not for Klobberer stepping up (major props, by the way), it appears Davin would still be waiting for his payment.
2. There's an argument to be made to leave it up and unchanged for "the good of the community". Mike's behavior and actions, and those of Davin, speak for themselves during this issue. Shouldn't a new member of the forum be able to see what happened, and reference this, before they enter into any transaction with either one? Wouldn't changing the feedback to positive (or neutral) hide what actually happened here?
Like I said, it's not my decision to make but I'll be curious to see what happens.
1. If we're being honest, @Mike mac never actually paid Davin -- @Klobberer paid him what he was owed, but that doesn't change the interactions between Mike and Davin... and if not for Klobberer stepping up (major props, by the way), it appears Davin would still be waiting for his payment.
2. There's an argument to be made to leave it up and unchanged for "the good of the community". Mike's behavior and actions, and those of Davin, speak for themselves during this issue. Shouldn't a new member of the forum be able to see what happened, and reference this, before they enter into any transaction with either one? Wouldn't changing the feedback to positive (or neutral) hide what actually happened here?
Like I said, it's not my decision to make but I'll be curious to see what happens.
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