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Caution adviced when dealing with this member (17 Viewers)

BNM said:
Sadly, that is probably what most folks who are waiting on shipments are going to have to do. This guy was given 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc., chances by this forum and consistently jammed people. But he was allowed to linger and only banned after he spammed, not after all the shadiness. Very unfortunate.
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I hadn't had any previous interactions with him, but I sure wish I had stumbled across this thread earlier. I went off feedback, which was positive and had recent positive feedback as a seller. Unfortunately, as @ReallyGoodUsername pointed out, the feedback system really only works if people actually use the neutral and negative options too and not just the positive.

In any case, I have zero expectations that I'll ever see any of the chips I paid for.

Frogzilla said:
My perspective about goods and services, you pay the 2.5% either way. Either 2.5% on every transaction, or 100% on about 1 in 40. Protect yourselves folks
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This will be my standard OP going forward for transactions with members who I don't have a history with, or with members who don't have a clear track record on PCF. Sadly, the fees for international PP transactions are 4.5%. That said, the "fee" for my transactions in this instance will run about $1150, so...
 
I paid for my chips on May 6th, a tracking label was sent to me on May 10th. There has been 0 updates on movement on the package he allegedly sent me, it also doesn’t have any weight or item details listed, just my address and his. I paid via PayPal ff but I used a credit card. I talked with PostNL and asked if I could open up an inquiry on my shipment since it has been over 30 days, and was told only the seller can open up an inquiry. I emailed poppin last week to the PayPal address email he gave me, said he would open up an inquiry but so far no inquiry has been opened as I have checked with PostNL. he told me it’s not his problem once he dropped off the chips, it our of his hands now. After he took that route, not willing to help, I filed a dispute with my CC company, 2 days later I get an email from poppin freaking out asking why I didn’t that, I told him I wanted it let my CC company know just in case these never arrive, he then has stopped communicating with me and I think it’s for the better, I know I’m not getting what I paid for. He did mention, when he was still active on this site before being banned that he bought his dream set on vineyards, so I’m guessing that la where all of our money went…..for him to buy his own chips that he wanted
 
BonScot said:
Probably an idea if you all involve the police now. There will be cross-border agreements in place that deal with this type of thing.
If the total amount is $10k it’ll be enough to get them interested. Just needs one of the “victims” to coordinate it.
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I'd also recommend to not delete emails of back-and-forth communications with this seller in the event it gets to the point of getting LE involved.

Paper trails are wonderful in fraud-like cases. The estimation of more than $10K potentially involved in this mess is nothing to sneeze at.
 
BonScot said:
Probably an idea if you all involve the police now. There will be cross-border agreements in place that deal with this type of thing.
If the total amount is $10k it’ll be enough to get them interested. Just needs one of the “victims” to coordinate it.
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We certainly have enough of his contact information amongst us (email, phone, address, etc) that it would be easy enough for the authorities to track him down. He'd have to be an idiot to not realize that.

I'm busy, but if we really are talking about 15 people being scammed out of $10-15k, then approaching the police should absolutely be on the table and I'd be willing to help.

We also know that he's checking in on these threads, as evidenced by the screen shot earlier by @RudysNYC...
 
madforpancakes said:
That's so weird, my tracking info was generated later, but received by PO before? Maybe this tracking site is a scam.

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Sorry to hear about this.

I am just curious, but does anyone have the past tracking info from a successfully received package though NLPost? Perhaps you can confirm if it typically shows weight and also the steps tracked and timeframes?
 
cpac54 said:
We certainly have enough of his contact information amongst us (email, phone, address, etc) that it would be easy enough for the authorities to track him down. He'd have to be an idiot to not realize that.

I'm busy, but if we really are talking about 15 people being scammed out of $10-15k, then approaching the police should absolutely be on the table and I'd be willing to help.

We also know that he's checking in on these threads, as evidenced by the screen shot earlier by @RudysNYC...
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Laws not gonna overly care. I've had issues before with semi like amounts (4-5k) with Firearms and I was forwarded to AGs offices and Civil lawsuits. No local police (there or here) would do anything as it was a civil matter. I even went to the postmasters and ATF since it was for firearms and I paid with a postal mail orders and no one really cared. Adding this as international, and honestly I'm not sure what odds you have.

Not trying to be a douche, but trying to assist with how the workflow is gonna go. I spent 2 years then gave up.
 
Josh Kifer said:
Laws not gonna overly care. I've had issues before with semi like amounts (4-5k) with Firearms and I was forwarded to AGs offices and Civil lawsuits. No local police (there or here) would do anything as it was a civil matter. I even went to the postmasters and ATF since it was for firearms and I paid with a postal mail orders and no one really cared. Adding this as international, and honestly I'm not sure what odds you have.

Not trying to be a douche, but trying to assist with how the workflow is gonna go. I spent 2 years then gave up.
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EU police forces have memorandums of understanding in place that effectively lets them operate as the one police force. Best thing would be for an EU member to lead the complaint.
 
BonScot said:
EU police forces have memorandums of understanding in place that effectively lets them operate as the one police force. Best thing would be for an EU member to lead the complaint.
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Now that could be the direction, because EU laws might help instead of hinder. I'll tell ya anything based out of the US is gonna shrug, but that totally could be the move.
 
I only had one interaction with him which I refused to do, he wanted to buy a certain chip and I clearly told em I didn’t want to ship internationally which he insisted to do the deal and ship to @horseshoez, so my question is how many chips is sitting with @horseshoez that is to go to him? Only reason I steered away was because a incident he had with another member which caused red flags.
 
davin said:
I only had one interaction with him which I refused to do, he wanted to buy a certain chip and I clearly told em I didn’t want to ship internationally which he insisted to do the deal and ship to @horseshoez, so my question is how many chips is sitting with @horseshoez that is to go to him? Only reason I steered away was because a incident he had with another member which caused red flags.
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If @horseshoez has some of Poppins chips, maybe he can hold them for the time being till things are sorted out?

I wouldn't give up hope of getting the chips just yet.
 
Wasn’t he the one freaking out about a hacker on this site? Something to do with @justincarothers , maybe poppin had something to do with all that ?
 
BonScot said:
EU police forces have memorandums of understanding in place that effectively lets them operate as the one police force. Best thing would be for an EU member to lead the complaint.
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@OfficerLovejoy might know how to deal with this?

I would also reach out to the bank used to make the transfer, mention you have been scammed and that you are trying to recover your money.
Revolut, as @jr8719 said, is a legit banking institution (I use them extensively) but their customer service is average and it will be complicated to get in touch if you aren’t an existing customer. If the request is coming from a Bank, they might take it more seriously.

The whole situation sucks. Sorry to hear this guys.
 
Marius L said:
If @horseshoez has some of Poppins chips, maybe he can hold them for the time being till things are sorted out?

I wouldn't give up hope of getting the chips just yet.
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Some of us have already been exploring this option but his chips have been sent out unfortunately. I believe folks are looking into additional options to stop the mail but doesn’t look likely.
 
Beings Sunday there isnt much I can do in regards to contacting the US postal service, but I will be making some attempts tomorrow to inquire further of what their regulations might be for fraudulent labels as well. Mostly out of my curiosity and hopefully some benefit
 
Members that are expecting shipments, feel free to PM your Tracking#...I'll try to contact PostNL.
I will also contact the Dutch authorities to see how international claims have to be submitted.

I'm sure a lot of the chips that are missing still resides in the US, so maybe @horseshoez to confirm what he has in his possession.
 
Thomacetti said:
Members that are expecting shipments, feel free to PM your Tracking#...I'll try to contact PostNL.
I will also contact the Dutch authorities to see how international claims have to be submitted.

I'm sure a lot of the chips that are missing still resides in the US, so maybe @horseshoez to confirm what he has in his possession.
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gladly sending pm
 
I would make a substantial wager that this kid DID NOT have 500 Terribles secondary fracs to sell.
I can’t speak about other chips listed, but these weren’t readily available.
I hope the folks that bought these compare notes, to see if he sold 1 rack 5 times.

Either way, I pray everyone gets made whole.
 
Thisfiendis138 said:
I would make a substantial wager that this kid DID NOT have 500 Terribles secondary fracs to sell.
I can’t speak about other chips listed, but these weren’t readily available.
I hope the folks that bought these compare notes, to see if he sold 1 rack 5 times.

Either way, I pray everyone gets made whole.
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I don’t believe anyone of those 5 racks have been received. I bought a rack of those secs and obviously don’t think I’ll be receiving anything and also don’t believe he had 5 of those racks either. I hope we can gather up and make this right. We got to be better than them “Don’t fu*k with cats” people right? :LOL: :laugh: I’m only laughing so I don’t cry
 
So what are some of the potential solutions to this problem, if the feedback system is unreliable and international transactions considered too risky? Everything PPG&S or some sort of M2M escrow service?
 
Organista1 said:
I don’t believe anyone of those 5 racks have been received. I bought a rack of those secs and obviously don’t think I’ll be receiving anything and also don’t believe he had 5 of those racks either. I hope we can gather up and make this right. We got to be better than them “Don’t fu*k with cats” people right? :LOL: :laugh: I’m only laughing so I don’t cry
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Such a bummer. Gnarly chips too.
Good luck brother, I’m really hoping everyone gets right here. Really bums me out man :(
 
Thomacetti said:
Members that are expecting shipments, feel free to PM your Tracking#...I'll try to contact PostNL.
I will also contact the Dutch authorities to see how international claims have to be submitted.

I'm sure a lot of the chips that are missing still resides in the US, so maybe @horseshoez to confirm what he has in his possession.
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he doesn’t have anything left in his possession and a few folks are helping with the tracking already but it’s true that you might be in a better position from Belgium so that’s a sweet offer - @FordPickup92 @horseshoez
 

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