Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (13 Viewers)

Not sure if this is controversial, but since I don't see anyone bring it up maybe it's not popular.

PCF as a whole is completely full of sh*t. I get that market dictates stuff and people don't want to poop on chippies, but wtf.

For most of my short chipping career, the CPs were always a fav design of mine. I always figured I'd own a set one day - likely would just sell it like everything else for something new, but it was a darkhorse potential forever set. I was lucky enough to finally get the chance to play with a set!

It was horrid. Downright awful. 2nd slipperiest set I've ever used, far worse than any paulson/bcc oversized inlay set I've played with. Second only to those god awful group buy matsuis or whatever back in the day that were an absolute joke where everyone had exploding barrels regularly.

We all go back and forth on which designs are better, weights, varying minutiae, etc. on chips, but at the very least if we're spending thousands they should meet a minimum functionality, which imo CPs do not.

I get it, it's a forum with a niche collectors product with a flowing market that's all socially engineered. So it's always going to be a bit full of sh*t. But too often you run into "c'mon man" moments.
 
Also, bs that the Crack Shack chicken stole my outfit, both top and bottoms. Pic cred to kmccormick.

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Not sure if this is controversial, but since I don't see anyone bring it up maybe it's not popular.

PCF as a whole is completely full of sh*t. I get that market dictates stuff and people don't want to poop on chippies, but wtf.

For most of my short chipping career, the CPs were always a fav design of mine. I always figured I'd own a set one day - likely would just sell it like everything else for something new, but it was a darkhorse potential forever set. I was lucky enough to finally get the chance to play with a set!

It was horrid. Downright awful. 2nd slipperiest set I've ever used, far worse than any paulson/bcc oversized inlay set I've played with. Second only to those god awful group buy matsuis or whatever back in the day that were an absolute joke where everyone had exploding barrels regularly.

We all go back and forth on which designs are better, weights, varying minutiae, etc. on chips, but at the very least if we're spending thousands they should meet a minimum functionality, which imo CPs do not.

I get it, it's a forum with a niche collectors product with a flowing market that's all socially engineered. So it's always going to be a bit full of sh*t. But too often you run into "c'mon man" moments.
CPs? Im having a brain fart or I don’t know what these are
 
Do you feel that way about all oversized inlay RHCs or do you think it’s unique to them? I’ve never handled them but have no problem with my Bahamias.
My Aces played fine and I have a custom set I’ve played with (Binions $5s, Morongo Fracs, Morongo $1s) they were great and a hit.
 
Do you feel that way about all oversized inlay RHCs or do you think it’s unique to them? I’ve never handled them but have no problem with my Bahamias.
I've played with Vineyards and Mardi Gras and over oversized inlays and they weren't flying everywhere.

Which after the game, 2 others at the table confirmed my thoughts regarding the air hockey pucks chips.
 
Not sure if this is controversial, but since I don't see anyone bring it up maybe it's not popular.

PCF as a whole is completely full of sh*t. I get that market dictates stuff and people don't want to poop on chippies, but wtf.

For most of my short chipping career, the CPs were always a fav design of mine. I always figured I'd own a set one day - likely would just sell it like everything else for something new, but it was a darkhorse potential forever set. I was lucky enough to finally get the chance to play with a set!

It was horrid. Downright awful. 2nd slipperiest set I've ever used, far worse than any paulson/bcc oversized inlay set I've played with. Second only to those god awful group buy matsuis or whatever back in the day that were an absolute joke where everyone had exploding barrels regularly.

We all go back and forth on which designs are better, weights, varying minutiae, etc. on chips, but at the very least if we're spending thousands they should meet a minimum functionality, which imo CPs do not.

I get it, it's a forum with a niche collectors product with a flowing market that's all socially engineered. So it's always going to be a bit full of sh*t. But too often you run into "c'mon man" moments.
Sounds like the secondaries, where the inlay extends to the edge of the chip. There is no clay to clay contact. Try the primaries if you like the design!
 
Don't seem like many people like both. People are generally pro Vegas or pro California. I prefer (dull) Vegas colors as well.:cautious:
Being Australian and unaware of Vegas and Cali colours before landing on this forum I was blown away by Cali colours. The draw was too much and had to build a set.

Now that I’ve been intensely looking at these colours for the last 4 months I’m starting to appreciate the Vegas colours. Noting colour, spot patts, and sets that are great examples I can feel new emotions growing.

The sickness is advancing…
 
I do actually like both, they are many Vegas color sets that I love. Cali colors in general are just better though
Meh, pretty much the same colors, just different orders: red, blue, yellow, black, purple, white vs blue, white, red, yellow, green, black. In fact, purple $25 vs green $25 is about the only real difference from quarter to hundo.

But as far as I'm concerned, any set with black and white as primary chip colors is pretty lacking, so Vegas and Cali sets both miss the mark in that regard.

The best lineups include blurple, orange, tan, pink, and/or gray.
 
There's no correct chip color

All depends on your game

If you're playing 10-25 cent and $5 or $25 (or even $10) is your big chip then make thos 5&10s wild crazy colors

That's the beauty of chipping

There's no correct answer across the board

Whatever you like is correct

My micro stakes has white dimes, green quarters (bc green 25 is only correct color) black dollars, beige $5s and Maroon $10s
 
As someone who stumbled on this site recently, and have been addicted ever since, finding just about everything entertaining and chock full of great info...
The Hall of Fame is kind of a wet fart. Yes, some cool sets (love Jeep's work like everyone else), but damn if there isn't a lot of boring, even pedestrian stuff.

No ban hammer, please!
 
As someone who stumbled on this site recently, and have been addicted ever since, finding just about everything entertaining and chock full of great info...
The Hall of Fame is kind of a wet fart. Yes, some cool sets (love Jeep's work like everyone else), but damn if there isn't a lot of boring, even pedestrian stuff.

No ban hammer, please!
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As someone who stumbled on this site recently, and have been addicted ever since, finding just about everything entertaining and chock full of great info...
The Hall of Fame is kind of a wet fart. Yes, some cool sets (love Jeep's work like everyone else), but damn if there isn't a lot of boring, even pedestrian stuff.

No ban hammer, please!
Yeah I’ve not worked out how HOF is judged yet.

Maybe I’m uncouth with my love of fantasy cali Tiger’s lol
 
The Hall of fame has been limited to CPC and other publicly available producers of chips to keep the playingfield more even.

The reasoning being that "anyone and their grandmother" would make it into the Hall of Fame if they found a backdoor into GPI and were able to make a set of paulson chips. Simply because of the GPI colors, spot options and THC mold that all are considered nicer than CPC offerings.

I'm not saying that statement is necessarily true, but that has been the logic to keep Tigers, BTP and other modern paulson buys out. And it is a valid point. This might of course change.

Also you should consider the Hall of fame an insight into chipping history and evolution. Trends come and go in hobbies, and options were also more limited 10 years ago. For example for CPC: Edgespots, molds and colors have all been expanding over time, so one could argue that it is easier to make a great set now than way back when even sticking to CPC.

It's also been stated that the HoF is a popularity contest, which is probably true as well. People vote for their friends, which is fair and the community is/was somewhat small. And some years there might not have been so many great options to choose from. It is what it is.

The HoF is something fun the organisers did to entertain the community and to have some fun with the chipping hobby.

In any case, you shouldn't really be judging an ASM set from yesteryear on their lack of bright colors when comparing them to Tigers. Its just not very fair. The creator had no chance to make anything remotely similar to Tigers even if they wanted to.
 
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Tigers are entry level chips. I’m not saying they aren’t nice and colorful and all that, they are nice chips. But any beginner can have them basically tomorrow. And beginners typically go for flashy and available, and tigers fit the bill perfectly.
Yeah, and while I love Tigers - I agree.. my view is many of the HoF chips are like a fine wine and timeless in design/colors/theme, as well as more exclusive (Tigers feel more commercial). Flashy definitely has its place, but generally they're more "fun" one-offs or rotations vs defining a personal cardroom unless executed perfectly (e.g. Moonlight, Casa Mango - perfection and worthy of their spots).

I'm also probably the biggest perpetrator recently of flashy designs, ha.. but again argue that none of those sets belong even close to the HoF (nor Tinas just because of the type of chip/availibility).

All that said, I've also found that the more I stick around here the more I fall in love with some of the chips/designs that I initially found "boring".
 
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The Hall of fame has been limited to CPC and other publicly available producers of chips to keep the playingfield more even.

The reasoning being that "anyone and their grandmother" would make it into the Hall of Fame if they found a backdoor into GPI and were able to make a set of paulson chips. Simply because of the GPI colors, spot options and THC mold that all are considered nicer than CPC offerings.

I'm not saying that statement is necessarily true, but that has been the logic to keep Tigers, BTP and other modern paulson buys out. And it is a valid point. This might of course change.

Also you should consider the Hall of fame an insight into chipping history and evolution. Trends come and go in hobbies, and options were also more limited 10 years ago. For example for CPC: Edgespots, molds and colors have all been expanding over time, so one could argue that it is easier to make a great set now than way back when even sticking to CPC.

It's also been stated that the HoF is a popularity contest, which is probably true as well. People vote for their friends, which is fair and the community is/was somewhat small. And some years there might not have been so many great options to choose from. It is what it is.

The HoF is something fun the organisers did to entertain the community and to have some fun with the chipping hobby.

In any case, you shouldn't really be judging an ASM set from yesteryear on their lack of bright colors when comparing them to Tigers. Its just not very fair. The creator had no chance to make anything remotely similar to Tigers even if they wanted to.
What’s happens to HOF now with CPC unwinding?

Tigers are entry level chips. I’m not saying they aren’t nice and colorful and all that, they are nice chips. But any beginner can have them basically tomorrow. And beginners typically go for flashy and available, and tigers fit the bill perfectly.
I agree with this also. Tigers are extremely flashy, bright and fun imo. As a non American though I have no nostalgia to casino’s and so I just note chips I like on eBay to see a common thread.

I have a shuffle stack of grey Fitzgeralds $1’s and they are very different to new Paulson’s it seems. They seem harder, slightly better sound. I guess this is what you older chippers mean and talk about feel wise.
 

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