Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (8 Viewers)

[Deucekies]

Just been watching some of the old WSOP tourneys on Poker Go, 1979,180s etc.

When are you watching those? All I ever see on PokerGo are reruns of High Stakes Poker and Poker After Dark, and the occasional original programming.

 

[MatB]

When are you watching those? All I ever see on PokerGo are reruns of High Stakes Poker and Poker After Dark, and the occasional original programming.

they have WSOP classics. not all of them and definitely short. Like 40 minutes long but they are great to watch.

 

[upNdown]

Something I just remembered from watching a few of the earlier WSOPs.
Insurance on the all-ins !!
Jack Binion coming over and setting the odds


I was like wtf is going on ?

Tbh I still don’t exactly know how that works.

I can’t imagine insurance happens in tournaments any more, and I’m surprised to hear it ever did.
I’ve certainly seen Helmuth do on streams of cash games, many times.

 

[MatB]

I can’t imagine insurance happens in tournaments any more, and I’m surprised to hear it ever did.
I’ve certainly seen Helmuth do on streams of cash games, many times.

this was back when the narrator says.."so many people attending this year they had to open another table.."

2 table main event. LOL.

 

[upNdown]

this was back when the narrator says.."so many people attending this year they had to open another table.."

2 table main event. LOL.

I guess I could see it. Those early events were buy in for $10,000 and get $10,000 in chips, winner take all - none of this no cash value T100 chip stuff. Maybe they treated them exactly like cash games, except you couldn’t cash out. For all I know, they invented the tournament format. So in that context, I guess insurance wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[BPTDirector]

Even though I have none I think NAGB chips are indeed Grail sets. I wish I had been in On one of the buys.

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

I can’t imagine insurance happens in tournaments any more, and I’m surprised to hear it ever did.
I’ve certainly seen Helmuth do on streams of cash games, many times.

By the tournament director no chance.

But between people who have long histories it’s just a matter of selling action at an agreed price.

Pricing it is hard for most people but would be very easy for people who run backing stables. The hardest part is having enough trust in the other person to follow through without anything in writing. I guess you could take a video of the terms being agreed to on a smart phone though.

 

[chipinla]

Not even sure if this is controversial but house molds are the absolute worst

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

Worse than the Paulson mold?

 

[chipinla]

Worse than the Paulson mold?

Absolutely

 

[chkyrslf]

I'm not a fan of single-sided-denomination inlays (ie. denomination only on one side, with different inlay on the other).

 

[CrazyEddie]

... speaking of which:

Religious services without references to specific religions are nondenominational.

Poker chips without numbers are nondenominated.

 

[joeyshin]

... speaking of which:

Religious services without references to specific religions are nondenominational.

Poker chips without numbers are nondenominated.

Atheist clubs are non-prophet organizations

 

[RainmanTrail]

Atheist clubs are non-prophet organizations

Paradoxically, so are all the religious organizations.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

We should be allowed to thread crap when someone is posting way overpriced chips and there’s a bunch of “I can’t believe that these haven’t sold yet at this price” and “great price” posts in the thread.

THIS. So the new rule would be "no thread crapping UNTIL others start pumping it." Then post away as long as you are expressing an opinion or stating facts.

Also, posting a link to the thread where the seller purchased the chips at half his asking price should NOT be considered thread crapping.

 

[joeyshin]

THIS. So the new rule would be "no thread crapping UNTIL others start pumping it." Then post away as long as you are expressing an opinion or stating facts.

Also, posting a link to the thread where the buyer purchased the chips at half his asking price should NOT be considered thread crapping.

Yes

 

[Deucekies]

... speaking of which:

Religious services without references to specific religions are nondenominational.

Poker chips without numbers are nondenominated.

That reminds me of the "Players don't muck, players discard and the dealer mucks" trope. Yes it's true, but good luck getting thousands of people to change their ways.

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

THIS. So the new rule would be "no thread crapping UNTIL others start pumping it." Then post away as long as you are expressing an opinion or stating facts.

Also, posting a link to the thread where the seller purchased the chips at half his asking price should NOT be considered thread crapping.

I’m indifferent to thread crapping in general but it’s pretty shitty to penalize people for others giving undue/unsolicited compliments.

How often does pumping even do anything? Do people actually buy because someone says “wow huge, this’ll go fast”? Maybe it dupes a member whose been on here for less than a month once in a blue moon but usually it’s just background noise that’ll give your eyelids a bit of a workout.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I’m indifferent to thread crapping in general but it’s pretty shitty to penalize people for others giving undue/unsolicited compliments.

How often does pumping even do anything? Do people actually buy because someone says “wow huge, this’ll go fast”? Maybe it dupes a member whose been on here for less than a month once in a blue moon but usually it’s just background noise that’ll give your eyelids a bit of a workout.

I've literally followed ads specifically because the seller was gouging and in one case was selling something at a huge markup over what he paid less than a week earlier. And I've watched as new members bought overpriced chips that had been pumped by others that they could have bought elsewhere for less. So yeah, these new and inactive members are exactly the ones I'm suggesting deserve a little protection from those of us who know better.

Also, I don't think I said anything about penalizing anyone. My suggestion merely balances the scales with some pumping while others are warning to proceed with caution. I'm more interested in protecting unknowing neophytes than I am protecting flippers and gougers. Some of the pumping posts are so downright dishonest they are almost certainly close friends of the sellers doing it intentionally.

 

[Ben8257]

I've literally followed ads specifically because the seller was gouging and in one case was selling something at a huge markup over what he paid less than a week earlier. And I've watched as new members bought overpriced chips that had been pumped by others that they could have bought elsewhere for less. So yeah, these new and inactive members are exactly the ones I'm suggesting deserve a little protection from those of us who know better.

Also, I don't think I said anything about penalizing anyone. My suggestion merely balances the scales with some pumping while others are warning to proceed with caution. I'm more interested in protecting unknowing neophytes than I am protecting flippers and gougers. Some of the pumping posts are so downright dishonest they are almost certainly close friends of the sellers doing it intentionally.

1000% hard to bite your tongue sometimes! That's for sure and definitely pretty slimy when the fluffers talk them up! I absolutely concur good sir!

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Probably not Controversial, but my rankings are


Leaded TRK > Leaded THC > Leaded RHC > BCC Heavyweights > TRK > THC > RHC > CIC > BCC > ASM > CPC > B&G > Matsui > Ceramic > everything else

The only thing controversial about that opinion is that it'll get you kicked out of the Controversial Opinion Club.

Please excuse my ignorance, but what are BCC heavyweights? I have some C&S mold chips (only a few) and they're only 9 grams, so not particularly heavy. But C&S ranks above ANY RHC for me. And about equal to non leaded THC.

I don't like CiC chips, so put them at the very bottom of MY list. I would also put my 8V and Spirit mold china clays above anything platistic, even the expensive ones.

How's that for controversial!

 

[CrazyEddie]

That reminds me of the "Players don't muck, players discard and the dealer mucks" trope. Yes it's true, but good luck getting thousands of people to change their ways.

I wouldn't bet on it happening.

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

I've literally followed ads specifically because the seller was gouging and in one case was selling something at a huge markup over what he paid less than a week earlier. And I've watched as new members bought overpriced chips that had been pumped by others that they could have bought elsewhere for less. So yeah, these new and inactive members are exactly the ones I'm suggesting deserve a little protection from those of us who know better.

Also, I don't think I said anything about penalizing anyone. My suggestion merely balances the scales with some pumping while others are warning to proceed with caution. I'm more interested in protecting unknowing neophytes than I am protecting flippers and gougers. Some of the pumping posts are so downright dishonest they are almost certainly close friends of the sellers doing it intentionally.

Making thread crapping acceptable to any post that someone has fluffed is penalizing the person whose selling.

And the thing is, it’s often the same people fluffing a HUGE number of posts indiscriminately - they can’t be friends with everyone. Fluffers gonna fluff.

I’d rather penalize or warn for the fluffers (especially when they make a claim about pricing or rarity that are clearly misleading).

 

[joeyshin]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what are BCC heavyweights? I have some C&S mold chips (only a few) and they're only 9 grams, so not particularly heavy. But C&S ranks above ANY RHC for me. And about equal to non leaded THC.

I don't like CiC chips, so put them at the very bottom of MY list. I would also put my 8V and Spirit mold china clays above anything platistic, even the expensive ones.

How's that for controversial!

BCC had a heavyweights option for which added metallic flakes to chips. This was available for the home market custom chips and several of the bigger group buys opted for this.

It would bring the chips to 9-10g which typically it was around. 8 grams.

I believe samurais and High Roller V2 are heavyweights. I know there’s others but I e owned these two

 

[Bluegrass Poker]

 

[Ben8257]

BCC had a heavyweights option for which added metallic flakes to chips. This was available for the home market custom chips and several of the bigger group buys opted for this.

It would bring the chips to 9-10g which typically it was around. 8 grams.

I believe samurais and High Roller V2 are heavyweights. I know there’s others but I e owned these two

Our Grand Cardroom Solids are 9.6 - 10... I couldn't believe it! Absolutely amazing feel to those BCCs

 

[Pinesol13]

White $1 chips are stupid

 

[Ben8257]

White $1 chips are stupid

Because they get dirtier faster than other colors and having it as your work horse? If that is what you mean then 100% I concur, even though most of our $1s are white! Lmao

 

[upNdown]

Because they get dirtier faster than other colors and having it as your work horse? If that is what you mean then 100% I concur, even though most of our $1s are white! Lmao

Raise your stakes!
Stop serving food at the table!
Buy an ultrasonic!
Ones should be white, and white chips should be ones.

 

[Ben8257]

Raise your stakes!
Stop serving food at the table!
Buy an ultrasonic!
Ones should be white, and white chips should be ones.

Whatttt???

Can't hear you over these beautiful non white $1s

LMAO!!