Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (59 Viewers)

[upNdown]

I completely forgot. I was thinking of where I picked up "All Day", and because every always seems to know what it means I thought I probably picked it up at a local game.

Even at the recent game, playing with someone I've only played with once, they said how much, I said $40 All Day, and they instinctively knew. Or maybe they thought that I was just being me and not answering

Anyways it just hit me. It's a term that was used back in my serving days to mean all included. Like how many salads for table 7? 6 all day chef!

I've never worked in a restaurant. But I've watched plenty of Gordon Ramsay cooking competition shows and I've heard that "all day" business plenty of times, but I never knew what they meant. But now I know!

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

As is the “club head touched the ground” rule in golf.

Hmmm... my club head always touches the ground. It takes a nice little divot in front of the ball. Then when the ball hits the green, it backs up 6 feet right into the hole. Every time!

 

[krafticus]

Change my mind:

'Holy Grail' Aztar Tourney Set's base color progression choice from the $100 to $500 is bad. And the 5k is The only pure love for this set is derived strictly from the 1k.

Photo Credit: Apache

The 100 to 500 is terrible. I think if you darken the 500, set is perfect

 

[upNdown]

Change my mind:

'Holy Grail' Aztar Tourney Set's base color progression choice from the $100 to $500 is bad. And the 5k is The only pure love for this set is derived strictly from the 1k.

Photo Credit: Apache

I kinda like the 5K, but the white spots on the 1K are just bad (as white spots often are,) yes the 100 base to 500 base is bad, and I also feel quite strongly that the spots on the 5 are dumb.
Still a great set, probably an RHC grail, but plenty of room for improvement.

 

[krafticus]

I kinda like the 5K, but the white spots on the 1K are just bad (as white spots often are,) yes the 100 base to 500 base is bad, and I also feel quite strongly that the spots on the 5 are dumb.
Still a great set, probably an RHC grail, but plenty of room for improvement.

They’re Almond, actually

 

[allforcharity]

standard poker rules dictate a raise should be at least the size of the previous bet.

I thought it was an increase of at least the difference between the last 2 valid bets.

Of course, a doubling of the previous bet will always satisfy this increment.

 

[allforcharity]

Ultimate string bet: "I call your $25, and raise another $25...and then another $25...and another $25...and another $200 as well." All the while tapping each chip across the betting line as if they were little horses.

 

[Irish]

I thought it was an increase of at least the difference between the last 2 valid bets.

Of course, a doubling of the previous bet will always satisfy this increment.

If they're in the same round, that's essentially saying the same thing

RRoP Betting point #6:
Any wager not all-in must be at least the size of the previous bet or raise in that round.

(TDA may be different)

 

[CrazyEddie]

Ultimate string bet: "I call your $25, and raise another $25...and then another $25...and another $25...and another $200 as well." All the while tapping each chip across the betting line as if they were little horses.

I am unequivocally opposed to any betting rule which disallows this practice.

"In my club, I will make little horsey noises when moving my chips whenever the fak I plez"

 

[Schmendr1ck]

But can there please be some type of consistency/terminology?

I always say enforcement of consistent rules protects everyone from "fucky situations" that can pop up in poker. String betting is absolutely one of those that will eventually cause an issue.

So much this.

Many rules have room for angle shooting and abuse. Disallowing string betting (verbal or physical) provides consistency and reduces methods for abuse.

 

[ChipFinderSK]

There's a lot of cuckoo here, but that's what this thread is for! Although I would change the thread title to Unpopular instead of Controversial, think that works more.

ANYWAYS, for all the oldheads here who read this and think it's all bunk, I say this.

Every. Single. Home. Game. Someone raises $8. And then two players later this happens:

How much?
$8.
Raise 8?
No 8 total.
Okay.

I don't care if the table is all great players who pay attention with fast action. This happens continually every night all night.

So maybe we can't string bet and there's too many issues there. But can there please be some type of consistency/terminology? I have no idea if it's helpful, but for my raises I always say the term "All Day". I announce Raise, put my chips in, and state $70 Total or $70 All Day.

It just doesn't make sense to me when people say, Raise $15. Now everyone but the last better is potentially doing math or looking around the table if they weren't paying attention.

Pretty sure “all day” is a Detroit/Midwest thing…the only time I ever heard it was while playing poker at the Detroit casinos.

 

[RichMahogany]

Pretty sure “all day” is a Detroit/Midwest thing…the only time I ever heard it was while playing poker at the Detroit casinos.

Maybe but no at the same time. Been a restaurant/bar thing for years

Edit:

Source: my 25 years in the service industry as a bartender/server/management

 

[ChipFinderSK]

Maybe but no at the same time. Been a restaurant/bar thing for years

Edit:

Source: my 25 years in the service industry as a bartender/server/management

What’s it mean in the restaurant/bar biz?

 

[RichMahogany]

What’s it mean in the restaurant/bar biz?

Exactly what @BarrieJ3 said. It’s the grand total for a particular thing

Let’s everyone know how many of a particular item is needed at one time, used more in the kitchen than in the front of house IME.

Grill station chef: how many steaks all day?

Lead/expo chef: 5 all day

*new order comes in with 2 more steaks*

Lead/expo chef: scratch that, make it 7 steaks all day

 

[doublebooyah85]

Venetian $2s are ugly

 

[allforcharity]

Venetian $2s are ugly

Yes, but they're *available*. When the field is narrow, you've got to consider the 5's and 6's along with the 8's and 9's.

 

[RichMahogany]

Not sure if controversial or not, but following chipping trends such as many people making Flamingo, and now Paris sets…

 

[Saoliver]

Not sure if controversial or not, but following chipping trends such as many people making Flamingo, and now Paris sets…

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But Mirage with black labels is sweeeeeet. Right @Josh Kifer?

 

[upNdown]

Not sure if controversial or not, but following chipping trends such as many people making Flamingo, and now Paris sets…

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The nonstop trend relabeling of chips as flamingos was one of the most puzzling trends to me.

 

[RichMahogany]

The nonstop trend relabeling of chips as flamingos was one of the most puzzling trends to me.

Agreed and this is how I feel in general when it comes to chips

 

[Josh Kifer]

But Mirage with black labels is sweeeeeet. Right @Josh Kifer?

Scotty, why is Rich attacking us? And attacking my new CPC set?

 

[MeridianFC]

I'll see my "the rule against string betting is crap" and raise myself "all the other rules about placing bets are crap too".

Forward motion, single motion, betting line, releasing chips, cutting chips - it's all bullshit. The only betting rule needed for a civilized game of poker is this: "Your bet is whatever you verbalize, or whatever chips you've put in front of you when you're done putting chips in front you, whichever comes first."

"BUT EDDIE" I hear you say, "How can you tell when someone is done putting chips in front of them?"

I say that if you have problems figuring this out you shouldn't be trusted with sharp objects, let alone be allowed to play poker.

I get your point, and the home game should be fun first and foremost, but for me I enjoy the standardization, form, etiquette, etc. of the game. Outside of it just being a good way to contact a money changing hands game, it's fun to follow the form. In the same way $3 hunks of clay are in no way necessary to play poker but they do make it much more enjoyable. At least for me buy I'm very antiquarian in many of these things.

 

[greenchip]

Sun mold chips look cheap.
First thought they were affordable options from Paulsons, but they were from Blue Chip Company...

 

[joeyshin]

Sun mold chips look cheap.
First thought they were affordable options from Paulsons, but they were from Blue Chip Company...

Well BCC was the same family as Paulson. Uncle cousin niece something like that

 

[MeridianFC]

Sun mold chips look cheap.
First thought they were affordable options from Paulsons, but they were from Blue Chip Company...

Actually I kind of agree with this because of the mold. Obviously I love BCC chips but the sun and the flame old are kind of crappy. It’s really obvious to see if you compare it to any other mold that BCC did for other folks.

 

[mipevi]

First thought they were affordable options from Paulsons, but they were from Blue Chip Company...

Your first thought was sort of right as well, Paulson did sell sun mold chips for a while after GPI acquired BCC, with limited insert/color options. A member in France got chips made and offered sets for sale, but I forget the details… Maybe someone can jog my memory?

 

[upNdown]

Sun mold chips look cheap.
First thought they were affordable options from Paulsons, but they were from Blue Chip Company...

For sure. And I’d still rather have them than RHCs.

 

[RichMahogany]

Your first thought was sort of right as well, Paulson did sell sun mold chips for a while after GPI acquired BCC, with limited insert/color options. A member in France got chips made and offered sets for sale, but I forget the details… Maybe someone can jog my memory?

Yeah the chips were expensive but came in a nice case. Don't remember much else right now and don't think anyone here bought any

 

[upNdown]

Yeah the chips were expensive but came in a nice case. Don't remember much else right now and don't think anyone here bought any

I remember they had a name that sounded like “columbine” because I remember thinking Americans might not want them, due to the connotation.
And they came out pre boat chips, so they were the first non-casino GPI clays anybody had seen in a long time, so they were pretty noteworthy.

 

[RichMahogany]

I remember they had a name that sounded like “columbine” because I remember thinking Americans might not want them, due to the connotation.
And they came out pre boat chips, so they were the first non-casino GPI clays anybody had seen in a long time, so they were pretty noteworthy.

Yeah something like that. I've posted about them before, maybe in the 4 suits design thread that was trying to use the flame/sun mold