Matsui’s are fine if you like plastics I guess. It’s those premium Abiattis that are wicked pissa. But the price tag is tough to swallow.
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Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (12 Viewers)
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RichMahogany
Straight Flush
I love the look and feel of Abiatti chips but Matsuis are just dumb. Premium price doesn’t mean premium quality. They(Matsui) feel and stack like shit.
I feel like most premium plastics do. I’ve never understood the attraction.
I said it in this thread a long time ago but expensive plastics are the exact same as cheap slugged chips when it comes to slipperiness and weight, except the finishing is a bit nicer. People will say they “stack well” and it’s bull - I’ve got samples of every expensive plastic manufacturer and they slip and slide all over the place. I’m not a stickler for stacking like bricks (I own BJ roulettes and love them) but I’ve always found it funny people hate on how heavy slug chips are and then buy 14g Abbiatis for $2.50 a pop.
Edit: I’d totally own a set if someone gave them to me, but I wouldn’t pay the price for them. I think cards mold or even China clays are more enjoyable to play with.
Right. I will say the Abiattis are nice, they’re really not slippery. I might pay a buck a chip for the right ones. But not 2.50.
I suppose some people like what they’re used to. If you grew up playing with plastics at Borgata, I suppose I can see the attraction, in a nostalgic sort of way. It’s why I like ceramics I guess - I started playing tournaments in card rooms that used ceramics - they’re fine.
Second this. I’ve had sets or barrels of:
- new Matsuis - slipperly as hell, poor stacking
- new abbiati - slightly better but still too slippery
- casino used abbiatis - take them away from me
- BJ (dunno version) - good stacking because of suction effect. Unshuffleable because of said effect.
- B&G - least slippery of all and decent shuffling. But 14 fking grams for 39mm is a no-go.
#TeamClayAllDay
RichMahogany
Straight Flush
They can be really pretty and they aren’t as common? Otherwise yeah, if people want to spend money on shitty chips, that’s their prerogative.
I agree, I want to like plastics and ceramics as they can look great, but for playability they suck.
RHCs are clearly the winner when it comes to colours, feel, stackability, and VALUE.
At least people who like ceramics don't have to wait a year for their chips to be made, like most of you clay chip suckers.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
The ante-first rule in BBA tournaments is completely defensible.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
What's your standard here? I own thousands of Sunfly 43mm ceramics and they all stack 100 hi easily. They also don't fall over nearly as easy as sluggos if something hits the table.
True. I own a bunch as well and love them. They are a special kind of ceramic chip
JustDogbert
Two Pair
Need a coin for the ferryman though.
Oh I love the Sunfly ceramics! Don’t think they really fall into my controversial opinion, being that they’re ceramics and not plastics. I also think the slippery chip thing is a bit overblown sometimes - even with my plastic chips I don’t really have chips sliding all over the place unless someone hits the stack.
Again, I love pretty much any chip and, should I have unlimited money and storage space, would own a set of everything. I mostly just think it’s funny when people who say they are Paulson purists due to the “best feel” will make an exception for high end plastics when the weight and feel is just so opposite of what they normally love.
Dealer buttons should be made out of hockey pucks
I get the dislike for ceramics, they're not for everyone. But seriously, have you ever actually played with dice chips? They're not even in the same ballpark as ceramics.
Try this with dice chips and let me know how it goes....
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
Put the wrong guy on tilt and he'll throw it at the dealers face and knock some teeth out.
coolguy101
Two Pair
No, I haven’t. Best plastic chips I’ve ever used are Bud Jones
coolguy101
Two Pair
Dice chips were my first set. I played with them until I bought some BCC CDI back in early 2000’s.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
Did somebody say stacking "Bud Jones?"
Stick tap (@shorticus )
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/poker-set-security.46025/page-2#post-970711
MrCatPants
Full House
I actually played in a long running game where the dealer button was a hockey puck.
FDLmold
Royal Flush
I've acquired some of these chips recently, and I'm able to say with certainty now what I've always thought, but never had the chips around to test it out.
Leaded textured RHC chips are at least 90% as good as leaded textured THC Paulsons. Maybe 95%. The stack, the shuffle, the sound, just primo stuff.
Leaded textured RHC chips are at least 90% as good as leaded textured THC Paulsons. Maybe 95%. The stack, the shuffle, the sound, just primo stuff.
CrazyEddie
Full House
Which ones did you get? Maybe your RHC sample was defective.
She might be a great date, but she'll never be a 10.
I don’t want to even imagine what it is that you’ve linked, that is too horrifying for the eyes of my entire nation.
"Perfect 10" by the Beautiful South
Good grief! Ever hear of a thing call higher denominations!!!
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