Belgian Cartamundi best of them all. American Cartamundi dog poo poo
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See my above comments about desJgn and others - Cartamundi has at least 4 different stocks listed in the Redneck database. Personally, the cartamundi stock used on the Neder Poker and Tobago decks is my favorite stock of all time, extremely flexible and beautifully textured - similar to Kem but flexier. But those are the only two known examples of that stock. Do I want to buy random Cartamundi decks hoping they’re that same stock instead of the three (at least) other known cartamundi stocks?
It’s all very frustrating.
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Thats a pickle
As Cartamundi started to aquire all that is for sale nodays they own like 80% of bussines (not counting China).
They started experimenting producing various brands in various factories. You need to look where the deck branded Cartamundi was produced and than to draw some conclusions.
Cartamundi produced in Spain in Fournier factory will have Fournier features but somentimes they use different stock and technology than preproiatary Fourniers (original Fourniers consist of 3 layers of plastic glued together).
Belgian made Cartamundi are great cards made often from celulose acetate but with ink applied diferently than Kem does it. Cards from belgian variety are great to shuffle but ink wears off faster than from cards made in Spain.
Check RedneckDatabase 2.0 for review of both.
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The Cartamundi casino stock linked below is the bit less flexible cousin of the Neder Poker/Tobago cards:
https://www.pokerstore.nl/cartamundi-plastic-casino-playing-cards-blue.html
My sources say that this stock has been discontinued. All further Cartamundi offerings are going to be on their Fournier stock (made in Spain) and their Belgian Copag stock. These propietary Cartamundi cards that they offered up to casinos are going to be unobtanium once the stock linked above runs out.
MeridianFC
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Gemaco gets no love?
why bother? nobody can buy them anyway
MeridianFC
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News to me. Some time ago they stop selling for private customers. Could be old stock or could be new company policy.
thanks for sharing,
CUORE3
Two Pair
These are beautiful. Too bad you can't see the front
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mburnznj
3 of a Kind
Are Modiano's sold out? It seems their website have none in stock?
they definetly avaliable inn europe
Unfortunately they have been sold out for a long time. If u search the internet, u can find places that still have them. …… or, if u don’t mind set ups that have been used for one game, I periodically sell my used set ups.
Hillsy
Waiting List
I while back I picked up some KEM which took a little getting use to as flexible as they are. I'm fine with them, and have converted from typically using a stiff deck to a more flexible one. What ever floats your boat...
EncinitasB
Sitting Out
I’m pretty new to premium playing cards, but I feel like I learned a lot reading through this and have some new decks to get my hands on a try out.
Thank you!
Thank you!
There is more to it...
As most of this is based on human perception I strongly recommend you to go to Redneck Database 2.0 and reviews.
All hail to @Dix!
So say we all!
and now Nothing but the rain...
RagahRagah
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I have made a point to try out a deck from every major brand and so far Desjgn are probably my favorite. Only one I haven't tried is Faded Spade. I see then used in a lot of Vlogs and I'm on the fence on their design. How do they compare to others in terms of feel and shuffle?
I picked up a couple sets of the Faded Spade 3.0 and I like them. They are closer to Fournier on the stiffness scale, but, very easy to handle and shuffle. I'll probably pick up a few more white they're offering 15% off, because they are on the pricier side at $25 a setup.
I think the discount code is BIGBET, and I think it's still good.
I think the discount code is BIGBET, and I think it's still good.
Good choice....and impressive collectionI need to buy some Acetate Modiano Platinum too
RagahRagah
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What are those 3 decks in the plastic cases in the upper left corner?
@RagahRagah these are MPC custom plastic cards
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RagahRagah
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I don't play home games enough to speak on long-term durability. For me it comes down to design (pure preference) and thickness. I prefer bridge size and a bridge deck that can't bridge shuffle well is embarrassing. I have tested some of most of the "big" names listed here this week and have a few first experience impressions:
Personally still feel Copag is king for me. Thickness is perfect; easy shuffle but not too flimsy. Right in the sweet spot. And I like traditional design and Copag manages to pull it off with distinction.
I have warmed up to Kem a bit, but only in bridge. They are the flimisiest cards I have played with but it works for bridge. In poker size, forget about it.
Modiano are OK. I like the different options despite not loving the design or thickness.
Da Vinci were OK.
Fournier are OK. Kinda borderline for me. WSOP Fournier seem slightly thicker, to my disappointment.
Faded Spade let me down big time. I actually really like the design but they are too thick for my taste. Again, bridge sized cards that can't bridge smoothly are a thumbs down.
As it turns out most of these heralded brands actually seem "meh" to me in terms of feel. Copag I had already had impressions on and liked for quite a while, and recently Kem (again, only bridge size). The rest I only acquired this week. That said... the savior for me this week was Desjgn. I am fond of the design and the thickness was just right. Love these cards. Hopefully they hold up well because I see using them very often amongst my fave Copag/Kem decks, especially as I have become fond of 4-color decks lately.
Just my thoughts.
Personally still feel Copag is king for me. Thickness is perfect; easy shuffle but not too flimsy. Right in the sweet spot. And I like traditional design and Copag manages to pull it off with distinction.
I have warmed up to Kem a bit, but only in bridge. They are the flimisiest cards I have played with but it works for bridge. In poker size, forget about it.
Modiano are OK. I like the different options despite not loving the design or thickness.
Da Vinci were OK.
Fournier are OK. Kinda borderline for me. WSOP Fournier seem slightly thicker, to my disappointment.
Faded Spade let me down big time. I actually really like the design but they are too thick for my taste. Again, bridge sized cards that can't bridge smoothly are a thumbs down.
As it turns out most of these heralded brands actually seem "meh" to me in terms of feel. Copag I had already had impressions on and liked for quite a while, and recently Kem (again, only bridge size). The rest I only acquired this week. That said... the savior for me this week was Desjgn. I am fond of the design and the thickness was just right. Love these cards. Hopefully they hold up well because I see using them very often amongst my fave Copag/Kem decks, especially as I have become fond of 4-color decks lately.
Just my thoughts.
You are bridge shuffling??
RagahRagah
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Yeah, of course.
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