I see the # symbol meaning pounds…10 oz cotton (3lb), barite (7lb 8oz), lead silicate (3oz), titanium (2lb 8oz..probably TiO2?), dry vinyl (3oz), color (1/2 oz).
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Frogzilla
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Oh I think you’re right it’s 3 lb of 10oz cotton. Not 10 ounces of cotton.
But 2000 chips should weigh more…whatever. It’s very little plastics…mostly clay. I would even consider the Ti to be a clay component.
Poker Zombie
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Leaded TRKs, for 26 cents a chip? I'll take 1000 racks, please.
Only 1000?
drdr
3 of a Kind
I'm finding that ingredient list very interesting. Such cool info. But, this recipe is from 1952. I'd expect the recipe will have evolved over time (changing material costs, improvements to manufacturing efficiency. This example recipe may not reflect current clay chip composition... but they also may do too.
Because I only understand metric I calculated the below, hopefully correctly (above posts helped, thanks) Was hoping to see what kind of %s this 1952 recipe creates. This seems to indicate there is very little plastic in these 1952 clay chips. Or am I mistaken, stuffed it up? Maybe the recipe is incomplete?
One problem is it is by weight and not volume. Perhaps someone could add to this by finding out relative densities of material and converting to % by volume.
Poker Zombie
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I'm not flipping.
drdr
3 of a Kind
Ah... quick google found this that explains:
"Barites mineral is widely used in plastic industry. It is used as the filling of plastic ABC to create beautiful colorful plastics. It is also very effective in improving the stiffness, intensity and abrasive strength to it thereby making it stronger in strength and beautiful in appearance."
So this all goes back to arguing on the definition of what a plastic is. So, technically origin is mineral barites "clay" but as an ingredient in plastic?
As is Ti02…very common filler in many polymer adhesives. Barite is a super common industrial clay…many many uses. I can see why it would be used in clay chips…very uniform color and grain size distribution. And it’s abundant…
Has anyone tried to melt a CPC chip?
RainmanTrail
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OMG, you guys are hopeless. How the fuck does nobody in here know how to read? This isn't difficult. The formula reads as follows:
10 oz cotton
3 lb barytes
7 lb 8 oz lead silicate
3 oz titanium
2 lb 8 oz dry vinyl
3 oz lav color
1/2 oz purple
Cliff Notes - it's fucking plastic!
10 oz cotton
3 lb barytes
7 lb 8 oz lead silicate
3 oz titanium
2 lb 8 oz dry vinyl
3 oz lav color
1/2 oz purple
Cliff Notes - it's fucking plastic!
bergs
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Actually, it doesn’t say that. You mixed up the cotton weight with the barytes, the lead silicate with the barytes, and the titanium with the dry vinyl and the dry vinyl with the lavender color (among other things).
If we’re hopeless, you’re borderline illiterate.
This makes sense though if you took Frank Gore but meant to take Adrian Peterson in 2014.
I guess we have to agree to disagree.
Maybe the recipe is per 1000 chips…
Well. I mean.... I am.... You don't need to scream it from the mountain tops....
RainmanTrail
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You're even dumber than I thought.
RainmanTrail
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Read it again. The weights come before the ingredients. Just like they do in every fucking recipe you've ever read. It's also the only way the formula makes any fucking sense. I assure you the lead silicate is NOT just 3 fucking ounces and the purple color is NOT just a random word that you can ignore at the end.
Ok…you are trolling us, right?
I live in the land of cotton…10 oz cotton is a grade of cotton. Not the amount in the recipe.
Nope.
Frogzilla
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“10 oz cotton” is also a product though and the end is cut off
I think that recipe is somewhat ambiguous
Frogzilla
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it could actually be the amount though, right? And coincidentally a common grade or cotton?
I think purple dye is an ingredient that is use to attain multiple shades of purple…1/2 ounces of purple dye per 1000 chips will yield lavender colored chips.
I think I am right.
maxim_666666
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But even these data indicate that there is only 13% vinyl there.
(I'm even surprised that it's so little)
Everything else is quite normal mineral additives, which are still used in plastic production as a filler.
In addition, for 2000 chips, 8-9 kg of total weight is somehow very little. Although, perhaps they weighed that much in 1952.
Once upon a time, on the blue site, guys carried out spectral analysis of chips. I could be wrong, but there was a lot of carbon and barium there...
In any case, we cannot call them completely plastic.
Even if it’s 50% there, it’s an amazing composition. The only thing that is 100% plastic is the label covering.
Ah yes, the official motto of PCF.
No…I think they list the ingredient-weight. The dash connects the ingredient and amount.
I live in the land of potatos. Perhaps we trade and create a union of the potato and cotton empires.... I shall send my delegates..... Bearing gifts and jewels....
I’m 100% right some part of the time !
60% of the time, it works every time....
Frogzilla
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@BamaT8ter might be two steps ahead of yall
Yes…let’s meet in Saint Louis.
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