First CPC Cash Set draft design (3 Viewers)

[Gunnar]

I think every frac works here and you should choose what you like the most!

 

[warma]

Don’t forget there’s an extra cost for DG as a base.

I think you have some good combos. Wondering if your lavender frac and retro red frac are too similar in tones.

The peacock jumped out at me as my first choice, but the canary is slowly winning me over. So I’m in you camp, but some good options there.

 

[Kam]

Don’t forget there’s an extra cost for DG as a base.

I think you have some good combos. Wondering if your lavender frac and retro red frac are too similar in tones.

The peacock jumped out at me as my first choice, but the canary is slowly winning me over. So I’m in you camp, but some good options there.

Thanks - I went back and looked at the lavender vs retro red, I agree it’s probably not the most distinct in low light, so killed that off.

I then looked for other yellow chip examples, I really liked the look of @SteveEH cash set he posted for someone else here, however I’m still drawn to the peacock blue for mine:

So… think I’ll reach out to CPC and start work on the inlay, assume there might be a few more adjustments as I work through that. Thanks @Gunnar & @warma for the feedback there.

Cheers, Kam.

 

[GetUrShineBox]

The bright dayglo colors look so amazing on a black base. I think you’re losing a nice opportunity for that hundo to pop by using charcoal as a spot on it.

 

[Kam]

The bright dayglo colors look so amazing on a black base. I think you’re losing a nice opportunity for that hundo to pop by using charcoal as a spot on it.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!

Noted. Let me reopen the ‘Final’ iteration. I think I’ve used almost all the dayglo colors though, may have a repeat.

Cheers, Kam

 

[Kam]

The bright dayglo colors look so amazing on a black base. I think you’re losing a nice opportunity for that hundo to pop by using charcoal as a spot on it.

Ok, actually there’s still a few DG available. This could be an option, and somewhat pays homage to the $100 rounders… hmmm

 

[allforcharity]

CPC doesn't have to cost the moon. I used all level 3 and 4 spots for my 3 denoms. If the higher denoms are starting to get too expensive/complex, consider a solid frac.

 

[warma]

CPC doesn't have to cost the moon. I used all level 3 and 4 spots for my 3 denoms. If the higher denoms are starting to get too expensive/complex, consider a solid frac.

A ton of possibilities! (Not saying cost is a driver for you, but just reinforcing that there are classic color and pattern options at really affordable prices.)

Level: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3

Levels: 0, 1, 1, 3, 4

 

[chipinla]

A ton of possibilities! (Not saying cost is a driver for you, but just reinforcing that there are classic color and pattern options at really affordable prices.)
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Level: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3

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Levels: 0, 1, 1, 3, 4

3916 > 312

 

[warma]

Totally, it’s a higher level though.

But really… 3d14 (same color) > 3916

 

[chipinla]

Totally, it’s a higher level though.

But really… 3d14 (same color) > 3916

Worth the extra money. And I would still say 3916 > 3d14 (same color)

 

[warma]

And I would still say 3916 > 3d14 (same color)

 

[chipinla]

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916 > 816

 

[warma]

@chipinla Didn’t you learn anything from those Ruffles commercials? Ridges are bettter!

 

[warma]

916 > 816

Mathematically true, dat.

 

[chipinla]

@chipinla Didn’t you learn anything from those Ruffles commercials? Ridges are bettter!
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[SendThatStack]

+1 to not using dark blue as a frac. I would take your latest frac but flip it to have a yellow or orange base.

 

[madforpancakes]

This might not have been a consideration for you yet, but imo I would avoid bright white in a heavily used denomination. White 1s are very standard for a lot of sets, but CPCs have to be hand cleaned unlike Paulsons or plastic/ceramic chips. If your players are chip shufflers at all, I'd expect those white chips to get dingy looking fast.

 

[Kam]

This might not have been a consideration for you yet, but imo I would avoid bright white in a heavily used denomination. White 1s are very standard for a lot of sets, but CPCs have to be hand cleaned unlike Paulsons or plastic/ceramic chips. If your players are chip shufflers at all, I'd expect those white chips to get dingy looking fast.

Yeah, you’re right - I didn’t even think of that. I think that’s a big practical plus for ceramics. I’m assuming most of my players won’t be chippers and this will be more of a social low stakes game, and if there’s going to be food/drink etc, things will get grubby over time.., hmmm. I’ve briefly looked at the thread on how to oil chips, might need to research how to clean as well if that’s different.

Cheers - Kam

 

[springbox]

I'm upping to 160 fracs from 120 for my set. What can I say, when you play micro people like to limp, and people like big stacks. I agree 100 to 120 is perfectly comfortable, and 80 is fine if people know how to make change as the dealer.

 

[aaron2786]

So, just a few thoughts to add to the pile here. First, you don't know what kind of chip quantity you need (I don't think? Maybe I misread, but you haven't gotten a game together yet?). It will be hard to pin down until you do, and even then both you and your players will evolve. I've only been running a game for two years now, but I can tell you unless you're the one person who lucks into a lock step nine players, every week will have different combinations of guys (or gals) that want to play a different combination of stakes/time/style.

Two, if ya wanna play, ya gonna need some chips! That doesn't mean the very first thing to do is throw together a cpc mockup and shoot the moon. (Though don't get me wrong, it's your money, you spend it how you want... My god two days ago I bought some 48mm chips... I have no idea what I'll do with em, but I like em) What I would say is, there are tons of options out there for first sets, second sets and your 100th set.

Have you handled slugged chips? Ceramics? Bud Jones? Matsui? Paulson? House molds? You should. Whatchu need? I've got samples for everything lol. Say, "lend me that", and I can send em out.

Third. Customs. Here comes the echo chamber. Tastes, wants and needs change. A lot. What you like one day, will change the next, you need that one idea that you let stew and stew, that festers til you can't get it out of your head - that's your custom set. This is my latest iteration, it's been with me for months and I haven't moved on it yet, because I'm still not certain.

This was my first iteration (well 10th after some seriously righteous criticism my other nine got here on the forum), that I was CERTAIN of.. until the next thing popped into my brain. It's crap.

Then.. oh my I grabbed my first Paulson set, luck of luck, look at these, and a great price! Beat CPC pricing by a mile!

These will be with me forever! Oh wait.. no I sold those last month. Now it's all Detroit chips, baby!

Now, truly, I really love this set and it will probably stay with me for a long, long time. Ya know, unless I need like money to buy potatoes to live.

The point is, with chipping, like any other hobby (boy if I had known this about swiss watches years ago.. phew) it's hard to know what is "you". It takes time, man. Someone into collecting, the same as being a poker player, you really could use a lot of money, or a lot of patience - and having both REALLY helps. Do what you want, but make sure it actually is what you want. Hope I injected something useful here and didn't just ramble.

Also completely serious about all the samples, just send em back when you're done, and someone else can give em a go.

Happy chippin' dude.

 

[Kam]

So, just a few thoughts to add to the pile here. First, you don't know what kind of chip quantity you need (I don't think? Maybe I misread, but you haven't gotten a game together yet?). It will be hard to pin down until you do, and even then both you and your players will evolve. I've only been running a game for two years now, but I can tell you unless you're the one person who lucks into a lock step nine players, every week will have different combinations of guys (or gals) that want to play a different combination of stakes/time/style.

Two, if ya wanna play, ya gonna need some chips! That doesn't mean the very first thing to do is throw together a cpc mockup and shoot the moon. (Though don't get me wrong, it's your money, you spend it how you want... My god two days ago I bought some 48mm chips... I have no idea what I'll do with em, but I like em) What I would say is, there are tons of options out there for first sets, second sets and your 100th set.

Have you handled slugged chips? Ceramics? Bud Jones? Matsui? Paulson? House molds? You should. Whatchu need? I've got samples for everything lol. Say, "lend me that", and I can send em out.

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Third. Customs. Here comes the echo chamber. Tastes, wants and needs change. A lot. What you like one day, will change the next, you need that one idea that you let stew and stew, that festers til you can't get it out of your head - that's your custom set. This is my latest iteration, it's been with me for months and I haven't moved on it yet, because I'm still not certain.

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This was my first iteration (well 10th after some seriously righteous criticism my other nine got here on the forum), that I was CERTAIN of.. until the next thing popped into my brain. It's crap.

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Then.. oh my I grabbed my first Paulson set, luck of luck, look at these, and a great price! Beat CPC pricing by a mile!

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These will be with me forever! Oh wait.. no I sold those last month. Now it's all Detroit chips, baby!

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Now, truly, I really love this set and it will probably stay with me for a long, long time. Ya know, unless I need like money to buy potatoes to live.

The point is, with chipping, like any other hobby (boy if I had known this about swiss watches years ago.. phew) it's hard to know what is "you". It takes time, man. Someone into collecting, the same as being a poker player, you really could use a lot of money, or a lot of patience - and having both REALLY helps. Do what you want, but make sure it actually is what you want. Hope I injected something useful here and didn't just ramble.

Also completely serious about all the samples, just send em back when you're done, and someone else can give em a go.

Happy chippin' dude.

Hey @aaron2786 - thanks very much for the offer and a lot of good detail, got me thinking all day Also - your latest iteration is fire, love the $20! Who designed your inlays and does CPC do a color match print for the inlays if you provide those image files or do you try get as close as possible? Wondering how well you can match the color vs the chip base/spot when it’s made etc.

I think I’m good with the most of the samples from Apache, BRPro & CPC now as I’ve had a chance to feel different types from those vendors - however thank you for the offer. One chip I’ve not had the chance to feel yet though are the Tina molds - I think reading here there’s 2 - a card mold and a more simple blank (?) maybe - if you have any of those would happily pay postage etc and return to get a feel. I love what @MrRossKeys done with his custom Tina SUITS setup and that one has me constantly rethinking value for a first proper set.

You’ve also got a really simple but valid point on the chip qty vs denom as I don’t have an established game going yet, so maybe it’s the cart waaay before the horse. I did a bit more searching and found a great YouTube vid by @Chris Manzoni:

about home game cash set ups. I liked his experience and logic around smaller $50 stakes to keep it as a more friendly and sustainable game:

So I think I’d use something like this as my ‘core’ with maybe another rack of 5’s.

So I now spent the day looking at high end poker tables from Gorilla & BBO and thinking maybe I should start off there, get a ceramic set and if the game is sustained then go all in on a long term CPC set… High end table + customer ceramic was close to the value of the CPC set I was considering. Also - noticed in your chip pic do you prefer having a chip tray in your table?

Build it and they will come…

Cheers,
Kam

 

[aaron2786]

Hey @aaron2786 - thanks very much for the offer and a lot of good detail, got me thinking all day Also - your latest iteration is fire, love the $20! Who designed your inlays and does CPC do a color match print for the inlays if you provide those image files or do you try get as close as possible? Wondering how well you can match the color vs the chip base/spot when it’s made etc.

I think I’m good with the most of the samples from Apache, BRPro & CPC now as I’ve had a chance to feel different types from those vendors - however thank you for the offer. One chip I’ve not had the chance to feel yet though are the Tina molds - I think reading here there’s 2 - a card mold and a more simple blank (?) maybe - if you have any of those would happily pay postage etc and return to get a feel. I love what @MrRossKeys done with his custom Tina SUITS setup and that one has me constantly rethinking value for a first proper set.

You’ve also got a really simple but valid point on the chip qty vs denom as I don’t have an established game going yet, so maybe it’s the cart waaay before the horse. I did a bit more searching and found a great YouTube vid by @Chris Manzoni:

about home game cash set ups. I liked his experience and logic around smaller $50 stakes to keep it as a more friendly and sustainable game:

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So I think I’d use something like this as my ‘core’ with maybe another rack of 5’s.

So I now spent the day looking at high end poker tables from Gorilla & BBO and thinking maybe I should start off there, get a ceramic set and if the game is sustained then go all in on a long term CPC set… High end table + customer ceramic was close to the value of the CPC set I was considering. Also - noticed in your chip pic do you prefer having a chip tray in your table?

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Build it and they will come…

Cheers,
Kam

Appreciate the ups on the cpcs, those are my labels, I do design work. As far as Tina chips, never held a single one, but I'm sure someone has some samples around. Myself I was surprised how much I enjoy BJ and Matsui chips, totally different animals but I think that's what I like with em. The pic with the chip tray isn't my tabkez that's from the guy I bought the set from, currently I use a Barrington table, as do the two other hosts in my group, but my brother and I just ordered two of the large size pub tables from gorilla a few weeks back (after two years of hosting, go slow lol) and no, no chip tray. And I say that as the guy who plays/deals most games. It just isn't needed. Ya make change on the table, if people buy up, ya pull out some barrels. You decide on your budget, space, game etc and just start doing a bit at a time and it'll come together

 

[Kam]

Last update for this thread at least… last night I may have bought another BR Pro Poker sample set, then found myself wandering aimlessly through the classifieds, as one does…

And found some glorious chips I haven’t seen yet! Offer was graciously accepted by @WhiteMamba1646 this morning and picked up an IG cash set in person today with some bonus chips:

The $1 and $5 workhorse chips in this set are really similar to the colors in my CPC drafts… and they’re in excellent condition so very happy. Now my next learning will be on fracs to get a 25c chip, something about ‘murdering’ chips…

Thanks for all the input and guidance so far on this thread everyone much appreciated - helped me get to this point. Time to build!

Cheers,

Kam

 

[aaron2786]

Last update for this thread at least… last night I may have bought another BR Pro Poker sample set, then found myself wandering aimlessly through the classifieds, as one does…

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And found some glorious chips I haven’t seen yet! Offer was graciously accepted by @WhiteMamba1646 this morning and picked up an IG cash set in person today with some bonus chips:

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The $1 and $5 workhorse chips in this set are really similar to the colors in my CPC drafts… and they’re in excellent condition so very happy. Now my next learning will be on fracs to get a 25c chip, something about ‘murdering’ chips…

Thanks for all the input and guidance so far on this thread everyone much appreciated - helped me get to this point. Time to build!

Cheers,

Kam

This is the chip database, idk if you were being serious about never seeing grands before, but you can browse through entire sets of chips and see what you like here, then find what you're looking for.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/chipdb/categories/casino-sets.1



Also, fracs... Search "fracs" in the search bar (click titles only) and browse til you can browse no more.

Congrats on your set

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Congrats @Kam on your purchase. IGs are a great set and honestly, this is the better way IMO. Buy, sell and trade a few sets while you get to know what you like best and what you don't like as well. You can always go the CPC custom route later. Keep coming back to your designs and tweak them as you refine your tastes. Then when you do finally order that custom set, you will end up with something you will love forever.

 

[Kam]

Last update, thanks to @WhiteMamba1646 @harrysallout @Jeevansluck @21dealer @softchewy for helping me buy & sell to get my first cash set foundation in place. Really happy with where I’ve got to. The $1, $5 and $25 chips have some really close aspects / color palettes of my various CPC design iterations.

I’ve also discovered that the Classified section is a dangerous, dangerous place to spend time and opportunistically picked up my fracs & hundos that caught my eye. I’m conscious this mixes different molds which may be sacrilege, however I’ll wait and see if anyone who isn’t on PCF notices…

There might be some adjustments to this over time from a quantity perspective (enjoying the thread debates over MOAR $5 racks vs $20/$25), and may tailor the 100s down in the future.

Eventually I’ll do a full relabel on these, but I’ll wait until I‘m happy with the quantities before I do that. Bought 20 racks from Kathy (who was also very nice) and a chip case off Amazon based on some reviews here.

Pics or it didn’t happen (before any cleaning/oiling). And I realized the sequenced flipped, but you can look at it upside down if it bothers you

Cheers,

Kam

 

[Jeevansluck]

Beautiful!

I also tried HSI $25, for the $25 spot, but felt there was some color clash with the spots. However, they did look good too, and now im regretting selling my HSI $25 (that’s 3 times I’ve sold them, so I don’t deserve them)

I don’t see any mold sacrilege there Kam. That’s a heavy hitting banger RHC set right there. All RHC that I can see!!

Great set man! Well put together and it was a pleasure to do some chipping together!

EDiT : kudos on the Versa Carrier. I’ve got the same one. It can be trusted too, it can hold 1000 leaded chips and doesn’t even flex!

 

[aaron2786]

Glad you found a set that could work for you, definitely take you time on a custom set.. I had twenty minutes today and now I've thought of something 180 degrees from the last one...

You see?! You think the classifieds are dangerous, try having an ipad and just enough talent to be passable. Do you know how many sets are saved on my customs page? Lol


Congrats on the set, happy chippin', happy winnin'

 

[Kam]

Beautiful!

I also tried HSI $25, for the $25 spot, but felt there was some color clash with the spots. However, they did look good too, and now im regretting selling my HSI $25 (that’s 3 times I’ve sold them, so I don’t deserve them)

I don’t see any mold sacrilege there Kam. That’s a heavy hitting banger RHC set right there. All RHC that I can see!!

Great set man! Well put together and it was a pleasure to do some chipping together!

EDiT : kudos on the Versa Carrier. I’ve got the same one. It can be trusted too, it can hold 1000 leaded chips and doesn’t even flex!

Thanks!

Yeah - really like the Versa - went through the container/case threads and found this simple & quick video of it from the Casa Mango dude - sold it for me. I was looking for a clear acrylic case at first, but this just seems much more robust and feels solid (vs some flex I’ve had in other cheap aluminum cases). For others if interested:

My other case with the 1,000 Nexgen Pros is this ridiculous beast:

Very happy moving to the Versus and first time using racks as well. The racks from Kathy at Unique Enterprises are a perfect snug fit for the chips.

Cheers,

Kam