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I can’t imagine how people would think that Garrett would just wake up one day, lose his mind, and decide to accuse someone of randomly cheating after playing thousands of hours of streamed poker without incident and being nothing but professional.

Even more unbelievable is that they would side with a no name random woman with essentially no credentials of any kind.
 
raynmanas said:
ok, i'm convinced. i eat every word i previously posted. the video evidence is damning.
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yup. And although we still don’t have any direct proof on the J4 hand, I’ll say that @ekricket was right - I think these people are animals so I believe they cheated in that hand.
 
Not one goddamn thing in that entire wall of text was evidence of cheating.

Evidence of all the people named in it being unsavory, untrustworthy, bad at poker, bad with money, and liars... yes.

Evidence that they cheated - no.
 
Ya’ll know what this means…

WiFi vibrator is becoming more and more real with every passing minute!!!!

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Regardless of your interpretation of recent developments, I don't know how anyone in good conscience can sit on a Hustler livestream now. I'm slackjawed that they're still playing and that it hasn't shut down while this investigation is ongoing.

Vertucci and Feldman are incompetent at best, it's also fair to say their practices are sketchy, and at worst, are complicit in all of this.

Non pro, legitimate thinking players like Mariano should avoid and/or boycott the Hustler streams. Count me in the camp that there's been something crooked with this game even before this incident. Vertucci's past is spotty at best, and I wouldn't put it past him for there to be nefarious things going on behind the curtain.
 
JMC9389 said:
Vertucci and Feldman are incompetent at best, it's also fair to say their practices are sketchy, and at worst, are complicit in all of this.
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My brother said exactly this to me this morning. And he pulled out the Casino line:

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Not sure how anyone sits at that table with those two goofballs in charge.
 
Also, Garrett's legal team sucks ass, because they let him say this:

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That is exactly the thing that his legal team was telling him not to say! "I have strong suspicions of many hands that were cheated" - Congratulations, you've made a defamatory implication of undisclosed facts. See https://www.virginiadefamationlawyer.com/implied-undisclosed-facts-as-basis-for-defamation-claim/

I doubt anyone will ever take any action on this so it doesn't matter at all, but it's a stupid thing for a lawyer to let his client say. Either his lawyer didn't vet this, or Garrett didn't listen to his lawyer, or his lawyer just completely whiffed on this part.
 
justsomedude said:
My brother said exactly this to me this morning. And he pulled out the Casino line:

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Not sure how anyone sits at that table with those two goofballs in charge.
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Don't even get me started on how they both play pretty regularly on the stream, Vertucci moreso, whom is a big winner in the game.

Mind blowing.
 
JScott said:
Nothing at all will convince a couple of guys here that they cheated, they're too far down the rabbit hole.
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Evidence that they cheated would convince me. Evidence that they're the kind of people who could or would cheat won't convince me that they cheated.

I already know that they're awful people; they're poker players. No further evidence of that is necessary.
 
CrazyEddie said:
Also, Garrett's legal team sucks ass, because they let him say this:

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That is exactly the thing that his legal team was telling him not to say! "I have strong suspicions of many hands that were cheated" - Congratulations, you've made a defamatory implication of undisclosed facts. See https://www.virginiadefamationlawyer.com/implied-undisclosed-facts-as-basis-for-defamation-claim/

I doubt anyone will ever take any action on this so it doesn't matter at all, but it's a stupid thing for a lawyer to let his client say. Either his lawyer didn't vet this, or Garrett didn't listen to his lawyer, or his lawyer just completely whiffed on this part.
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Lol yah
You always end with ALLEGEDLY
Then you’re safe
 
JMC9389 said:
Don't even get me started on how they both play pretty regularly on the stream, Vertucci moreso, whom is a big winner in the game.

Mind blowing.
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100% agree.

I’ve also posted in this thread that I’ve noticed numerous cringe scenarios with their games in the past… and the fact that they’re allowed to play in their own game is unfathomable to me.

In what casino is the floor manager allowed to sit at the fucking table??? o_O
 
CrazyEddie said:
Evidence that they cheated would convince me. Evidence that they're the kind of people who could or would cheat won't convince me that they cheated.

I already know that they're awful people; they're poker players. No further evidence of that is necessary.
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So you're calling everyone on this site awful too?

Just razzing. Will you be satisfied when Robbi's vibrating anal beads are subpoenad and have been found to be used at certain times during the day of the J4 hand?
 
The video footage is the most interesting part of Gman's post.
- The AQ vs AQ softplay was brought to light by Berkey very early on. Shady.
- Mouthing J8, not sure how compelling that is. Speculation about the testing the signaling? Could also be two acquaintances just talking about a hand. That happens often at a table. Also, I'm sure someone at the table noticed it. It was done in the open.
- Eric's flush vs Robbi's set hand. Rip trying to signal Robbi she's behind? Umm... 4 to a flush on board. It's not surprising she checked it back on the river.

The rest of his post is really just hearsay. Painting these folks as unsavory people - which is likely. But it's not yet actual proof of cheating. All cheaters are dirtbags for sure. But not all dirtbags are cheaters.

Hopefully more analysis of the stream comes out. That stuff is actually interesting. And hopefully HCL releases footage that wasn't part of the stream.

But the conjecture and innuendo in Gman's post is just gossip at this point.

One thing, does HCL actually do any vetting of its players? Or anyone with cash can play? Which I guess is not surprising, just a regular casino setting. But given the nature of how the profile the show has become pretty big, you'd think they'd be a bit more vigilant on doing a bit of KYC.
 
Wow! Pretty big developments from today. I gotta admit. I'M SHOCKED!!! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!! This has really moved the needle for me. I've gone from thinking "She almost certainly cheated" to now thinking, "She almost certainly cheated"

If you were previously in the, "meh, this is a nothing burger and there's zero evidence of her cheating. I've seen much worse calls than this more times than I can count." camp, then this should be the light bulb moment for you which tells you, "maybe, just maybe there's a hell of a lot more to poker than I had previously realized if all these pros were able to know with near certainty that cheating had in fact occurred simply just by watching one single hand of poker play out."

If you've read everything to date and gone back to watch the video clips, and have seen the updates on RIP and Bryan, and yet you STILL somehow think there's no reason to believe they were likely cheating, then there's simply no hope for you. You couldn't make it through a corn maze with a bulldozer.

gg @TheDuke, @ekricket, & @HaRDHouSeiNC . It was nice playing with you.

Seat open
 
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RainmanTrail said:
Wow! Pretty big developments from today. I gotta admit. I'M SHOCKED!!! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!! This has really moved the needle for me. I've gone from thinking "She almost certainly cheated" to now thinking, "She almost certainly cheated"

If you were previously in the, "meh, this is a nothing burger and there's zero evidence of her cheating. I've seen much worse calls than this more times than I can count." camp, then this should be the light bulb moment for you which tells you, "maybe, just maybe there's a hell of a lot more to poker than I had previously realized if all these pros were able to know with near certainty that cheating had in fact occurred simply just by watching one single hand of poker play out."

If you've read everything to date and gone back to watch the video clips, and have seen the updates on RIP and Bryan, and yet you STILL somehow think there's no reason to believe they were likely cheating, then there's simply no hope for you. You couldn't make it through a corn maze with a bulldozer.

gg @TheDuke & @ekricket . It was nice playing with you.

Seat open
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Wow. You flip flop more than Lindsay Graham.

Just the other day you seemed convinced that she thought she had J3.

@RainmanTrail - "he goes where the wind blows"

Kind of a childish post to tag people with an insult post when you supposedly have them on ignore. But given the nature of the majority of your posts, it's not surprising.
 
TheDuke said:
Wow. You flip flop more than Lindsay Graham.

Just the other day you seemed convinced that she thought she had J3.

@RainmanTrail - "he goes where the wind blows"

Kind of a childish post to tag people with an insult post when you supposedly have them on ignore. But given the nature of the majority of your posts, it's not surprising.
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Yah pretty sure those mindless ramblings and self proclaimed expert status convinced everyone.
I’m still in the IDGAF camp
They got their ratings
 
TheDuke said:
Just the other day you seemed convinced that she thought she had J3.
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There you go again, just making shit up like you always do, tossing my words into your little wood-chipper brain before it comes out the other end. Good luck with that. Nobody here is confused on what my stance has been this entire time. Which is that I think she almost certainly cheated, but have been (and remain) open to the idea that I'm wrong, and that she could have simply misread her hand, in which case this would all just be a nothingburger. But I've clarified countless times, that I don't believe this is what happened. I've simply said I'm open to it. I'm not a fan of absolutes. I'm rarely one to ever be 100% certain of anything.
 
RainmanTrail said:
There you go again, just making shit up like you always do, tossing my words into your little wood-chipper brain before it comes out the other end. Good luck with that. Nobody here is confused on what my stance has been this entire time. Which is that I think she almost certainly cheated, but have been (and remain) open to the idea that I'm wrong, and that she could have simply misread her hand, in which case this would all just be a nothingburger. But I've clarified countless times, that I don't believe this is what happened. I've simply said I'm open to it. I'm not a fan of absolutes. I'm rarely one to ever be 100% certain of anything.
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I'll take fake news from narcissists for $200, Alex.

Don't you have a private game with playboy bunnies and billionaires to attend? On a super yacht in the Carribean?

Why are you wasting time interacting with such a talentless, unattractive, and boorish forum member like me? I guess I should feel humbled and blessed. Thank you.
 
RainmanTrail said:
Wow! Pretty big developments from today. I gotta admit. I'M SHOCKED!!! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!! This has really moved the needle for me. I've gone from thinking "She almost certainly cheated" to now thinking, "She almost certainly cheated"

If you were previously in the, "meh, this is a nothing burger and there's zero evidence of her cheating. I've seen much worse calls than this more times than I can count." camp, then this should be the light bulb moment for you which tells you, "maybe, just maybe there's a hell of a lot more to poker than I had previously realized if all these pros were able to know with near certainty that cheating had in fact occurred simply just by watching one single hand of poker play out."

If you've read everything to date and gone back to watch the video clips, and have seen the updates on RIP and Bryan, and yet you STILL somehow think there's no reason to believe they were likely cheating, then there's simply no hope for you. You couldn't make it through a corn maze with a bulldozer.

gg @TheDuke, @ekricket, & @HaRDHouSeiNC . It was nice playing with you.

Seat open
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Looks like we can add untrustworthy and lying to your list of attributes. Your getting closer and closer to that subhuman status.

It’s no wonder that nobody is saying “if @RainmanTrail’s expert opinion says it’s cheating then I believe it” with no other evidence needed.

But it’s no wonder nobody trusts you when you can’t trust anything you say, even when your pleading and begging. Liars abound at the poker table and here evidently.

I was going to honor your plea for mercy but you’ve shown you can’t be trusted.
 
ekricket said:
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Looks like we can add untrustworthy and lying to your list of attributes. Your getting closer and closer to that subhuman status.

It’s no wonder that nobody is saying “if @RainmanTrail’s expert opinion says it’s cheating then I believe it” with no other evidence needed.

But it’s no wonder nobody trusts you when you can’t trust anything you say, even when your pleading and begging. Liars abound at the poker table and here evidently.

I was going to honor your plea for mercy but you’ve shown you can’t be trusted.
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That's not quite how this works. But that's a cute attempt. I offered to leave you alone if you stopped shitting on me. You clearly declined, and then turned right around and shit on me again and posted my PM like the child you always are. YOU broke the offer, not me. So, like I said before. If you want to shit on me, I will shit back. Don't worry. I've got something fun in store for you. ;)
 
RainmanTrail said:
That's not quite how this works. But that's a cute attempt. I offered to leave you alone if you stopped shitting on me. You clearly declined, and then turned right around and shit on me again and posted my PM like the child you always are. YOU broke the offer, not me. So, like I said before. If you want to shit on me, I will shit back. Don't worry. I've got something fun in store for you. ;)
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I don’t have to post anything. You are doing it to yourself. It’s nice how you make this thread about you though.
Can’t wait for your surprise. I’m sure it’s something along the lines of doxxing, which you are quite famous for.
If your poker playing buddies could see this train wreck of a thread you’ve help create I’m sure it would open their eyes and maybe reevaluate their player choices.

You think kinda maybe but not committing that she cheated.

Some of us think kinda maybe but not committing that she didn’t cheat.

You continually insult and berate anyone who is in the second camp, yet your position is exactly the same in the first camp. “Kinda maybe sorta” isn’t committing. It isn’t “I told you so”.

It’s dodgy behavior. And you are at the forefront.
 

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