Sooooooo I personally like Andy. I think he's funny and good at poker.
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Travis, it's been a little while and I hope you are well.
More often than not I tend to agree with your takes on anything poker related, and I find myself agreeing this time that this entire thing looked pretty shady from the outset.
I will hold my hand up and admit that my initial reaction in the moment was that she wasn't cheating, but was just a dumb fish, but after reading some of the background I fairly quickly changed my mind. It's been even more damning in the last few days.
Having said that, you don't help yourself do you lol. Maybe just take a chill pill and a break from PCF. You can come back and be argument free. Trust me it's liberating.
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Does anyone watch Joey’s latest YouTube about the other player Beanz may be also part of the whole shit?
Does this guy not catching any attention to you all?
One of the worst player I have ever seen in the steam? (Stupidity)Borrowing money from multiple players including Robbi. He claimed that only met Robbi twice, and he was the one hook up Robbi to hustler live? Who the fk meet you twice and lend you money?
Still not enough odd info?
@TheDuke, no offence, I strongly doubt you are Robbi’s personal friend. Just Kidding. Relax. LOL!
Couldn’t agree more.
“Stupidity and Greedy are dangerous combo!”
Does this guy not catching any attention to you all?
One of the worst player I have ever seen in the steam? (Stupidity)Borrowing money from multiple players including Robbi. He claimed that only met Robbi twice, and he was the one hook up Robbi to hustler live? Who the fk meet you twice and lend you money?
Still not enough odd info?
@TheDuke, no offence, I strongly doubt you are Robbi’s personal friend. Just Kidding. Relax. LOL!
Couldn’t agree more.
“Stupidity and Greedy are dangerous combo!”
Almost looks like a type of fishing expedition to me; I bet they would welcome a lawsuit if they are not only 100% sure she cheated, but if they also have more proof that hasn't been disclosed yet. Couldn't imagine what Discovery would uncover with such a shady group of people. Others have said that direct evidence of cheating hasn't yet been provided, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A forum post is just that. This almost seems like a calculated move to justify his actions in the court of public opinion and get Robbi, RIP, etc. to further jam their feet into their mouth through more statements/actions.
After reading about some of his ‘business behavior’ this shouldn’t be ruled out.
So I read Garrets book (tweet) and then watched Pollks phone video post.
My takeaway is that yes. Looks very suspect with so many characters involved now. And shady ones at that.
A lot of what was said by Garret can be explained by normal behavior.
Playing cards with good friend you’d sometimes talk about a hand after and say what you had etc. but maybe not want everyone to know.
Still also possible they have a 3rd party they were communicating with who’s watching the stream and then feeding them data to help them work the game but not necessarily cheating. ( like rail birds at WSOP telling the players what opponent had 29-29 minutes later)
But that said. Garrets post was interesting but the final summary was still very ‘ I didn’t like some tjings but can’t prove anything’ just like it was before.
I’d say I was 8% she cheated before to 36%
Still need more actual facts.
I’m 95% sure that Bryan is up to no good and a has a gambling problem. And that will make people do stupid things. Sad really.
And based on Vertuccis business past I can’t rule out he may be the Fagan in this story.
My takeaway is that yes. Looks very suspect with so many characters involved now. And shady ones at that.
A lot of what was said by Garret can be explained by normal behavior.
Playing cards with good friend you’d sometimes talk about a hand after and say what you had etc. but maybe not want everyone to know.
Still also possible they have a 3rd party they were communicating with who’s watching the stream and then feeding them data to help them work the game but not necessarily cheating. ( like rail birds at WSOP telling the players what opponent had 29-29 minutes later)
But that said. Garrets post was interesting but the final summary was still very ‘ I didn’t like some tjings but can’t prove anything’ just like it was before.
I’d say I was 8% she cheated before to 36%
Still need more actual facts.
I’m 95% sure that Bryan is up to no good and a has a gambling problem. And that will make people do stupid things. Sad really.
And based on Vertuccis business past I can’t rule out he may be the Fagan in this story.
The real question is not whether she 100% cheated or not, rather it’s what percentage likely cheater would you allow at your high-stakes table or stream.
I might let an 8% likely cheater play at my table but not a 36% likely cheater, which I guess is Garrett’s goal here, as well.
Edit: I was in the likely didn’t cheat camp but I’m now certainly in the never let her play at my table camp.
justsomedude
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Oddest standout for me in that entire tome is Bryan - at the beginning of September - asking the entire world on his (now deleted) Twitter account what the current tech is for cheating at… uhm… chess.
Loool
JScott
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you’re only 95% sure of that? I mean, if there’s anything to be 100% on, it’s Bryan’s clear cut actions of theft/skimming caught on camera and blowing/dumping it at the tables.
justsomedude
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Yes. Bryan is clearly a degen. But all his past criminal and current shitty behavior aside, being a human-being means I still have a semblance of sympathy for the guy.
If this pans out and a much bigger can of worms is opened (really, all it takes is investigators searching Amazon purchase histories for wifi vibrators and looking at the texting/phone/DM/app history of these players), he is going to be facing some very serious consequences. And hopefully that’s enough of a wake up call for him to (try and) turn his life around.
I just never want to wish ill on others.
PS: Where has Robbi’s “I’ll sue everybody” husband gone? He sure as hell clammed up quickly. And I’m sure finding out that Rip has been plowing his unattended fields isn’t helping matters either.
JScott
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I’m just saying, you can be between 1-99% on Robbie, Rip or beanz… but Bryan was caught taking chips on camera, if that’s not 100%… what is?
For clarification
My 8% to 36% for Robbi and 95% for Bryan are just my own personal comfort levels for saying someone did something. A gauge on how I feel about it
Nothing concrete but that’s where I’m leaning
If they find out through watching playback of the stream they should be able to see when the mic was turned on or off because of the audio.
Seems like a logical and obvious way to see if a signal was passed through that method.
If during the J4 hand the mic audio for Robbi was turned on and off several times they would obviously be able to hear that on the recording.
If that’s the case I’ll move to 100% for all parties involved. Cheat
I don’t say anything with certainty until there’s proof. I’m not a court of law, but I see reasonable doubt everywhere here.
Edit : I may have word saladed this one. Good luck
My 8% to 36% for Robbi and 95% for Bryan are just my own personal comfort levels for saying someone did something. A gauge on how I feel about it
Nothing concrete but that’s where I’m leaning
If they find out through watching playback of the stream they should be able to see when the mic was turned on or off because of the audio.
Seems like a logical and obvious way to see if a signal was passed through that method.
If during the J4 hand the mic audio for Robbi was turned on and off several times they would obviously be able to hear that on the recording.
If that’s the case I’ll move to 100% for all parties involved. Cheat
I don’t say anything with certainty until there’s proof. I’m not a court of law, but I see reasonable doubt everywhere here.
Edit : I may have word saladed this one. Good luck
Frogzilla
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I have never flip flopped on a thing so many times in my entire life
Anyone convinced, I dunno how you do it
Anyone convinced, I dunno how you do it
Ok I have a security solution
All streams are on a delay.
Why not have a delay on the card info too?
Delay the card info by 10 minutes. Then delay the stream by another 20 minutes.
Independent tech guy verify no one see data for 10 minutes
Boom ! Mic drop.
All streams are on a delay.
Why not have a delay on the card info too?
Delay the card info by 10 minutes. Then delay the stream by another 20 minutes.
Independent tech guy verify no one see data for 10 minutes
Boom ! Mic drop.
Some of us. ( let’s call us the good guys)
We are not flip flopping. We are just leaning towards more of a conclusion based on evidence.
There are others ( let’s call them the bad guys)
That are more than happy to say with certainty she did or did not cheat with only the same evidence we all have.
Edit: saying ‘I think she cheated’ doesn’t make you a bad guy. Just the ones who are certain
Anthony Martino
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Because we've been cheated before and we know when something is fishy
Anthony Martino
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Because sometimes card data isn't read and they need to contact the dealer in real time to have the players run their cards over the scanner again
Or the mic for Rip
Not having the occasional card info is small price to pay for iron clad security
Or you could have a positive or negative read info of the cards real time without the actual card information
One positive one negative and dealer can ask player to place cards over reader.
Seems like there are many solutions to this security flaw
Still dropping the mic. !!
One positive one negative and dealer can ask player to place cards over reader.
Seems like there are many solutions to this security flaw
Still dropping the mic. !!
Just vet good employees. There are hundreds and thousands of jobs out there that require high level security with huge theft potential let alone a simple poker game lol.
I forget sometimes the pros are in a constant state of trying to not show emotions at the table when playing.
This can come across as cold and makes them seem like assholes sometimes.
I’m guilty of not liking Ivey for this reason
But then occasionally you’ll see them not in a hand and talking normally and joking around.
And i realize I was a little harsh
@MatB Are you 100% sure that Santa Claus doesn’t exist? Lol. It’s not as if there is going to be footage of Ronni and Rip in a backroom somewhere saying “Okay so this is how we are going to cheat…”
We don’t even have 100% evidence of Postle cheating yet I don’t think there’s anyone who questions whether or not he did based on the preponderance of evidence.
We don’t even have 100% evidence of Postle cheating yet I don’t think there’s anyone who questions whether or not he did based on the preponderance of evidence.
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