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Isnt it at some casinos if u cross the line and take your hands off the cards its a fold like how if u cross the line with chips n take your hands off them its a bet or call or w.e ?

Some rooms have a line or forward motion rule, others say if a hand is retrievable it can still be live

Depends on the room and sometimes the staff
 
If it was a move, and I tend to think it was, it's ironic how he has to stoop to that level to win a pot. I mean, he does like to say he's the best ever a lot, I think he even said it during the stream to that blue haired kid. You shouldn't need to make a move like that if you think you're the best player at the table, it really doesn't look good. For the record, I think he's a great player, I always enjoy his play. I'm not really a fan of his childish antics though. I thought he folded. Also, this is a spot where the dealer should have made a call, yeah? Apparently the dealer didn't think he folded I suppose.
 
If it was a move, and I tend to think it was, it's ironic how he has to stoop to that level to win a pot. I mean, he does like to say he's the best ever a lot, I think he even said it during the stream to that blue haired kid. You shouldn't need to make a move like that if you think you're the best player at the table, it really doesn't look good. For the record, I think he's a great player, I always enjoy his play. I'm not really a fan of his childish antics though. I thought he folded. Also, this is a spot where the dealer should have made a call, yeah? Apparently the dealer didn't think he folded I suppose.
See I think alot of the time it is phil just being phil u hear alot of people say that behind the scenes hes the nicest guy u will meet but he is just ultra competitive I dont think he was angle shooting it doesnt benefit him at all that lil bit of money in the pot literally means nothing to Hellmuth
 
Its funny cause I started playing 20yrs ago n when all my buddies found out about him they started calling me hellmuth I use to get so mad when people would play the quote on quote garbage hands until I grew up n you realize you want people playing that garbage cause 8 times out of 10 you will take their money
 
Imagine if Hellmuth adapted with the times and actually took the time to study the game it would be scary he truly is to me the best tourney player ever even last yr he made 7 final tables at 57yrs old but his cash game is pretty bad but it always has been
 
See I think alot of the time it is phil just being phil u hear alot of people say that behind the scenes hes the nicest guy u will meet but he is just ultra competitive I dont think he was angle shooting it doesnt benefit him at all that lil bit of money in the pot literally means nothing to Hellmuth
Yes and no.
Yes I agree he wasn’t angling - he just flat out would never do that.
But no, even though that little bit of money means nothing to him, he doesn’t know or care. He wants to win hands at any cost WITHIN HIS CODE OF ETHICS. And although his code would never allow him to angle anybody, his code would absolutely allow him to take full advantage of that situation once it occurred.
And for the record, all things bring equal, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the way he took advantage of the situation. It’s just that all things weren’t equal - the other guy was an amateur, essentially a whale, and a little more decency or even generosity would have been a lot smarter.
 
Yes and no.
Yes I agree he wasn’t angling - he just flat out would never do that.
But no, even though that little bit of money means nothing to him, he doesn’t know or care. He wants to win hands at any cost WITHIN HIS CODE OF ETHICS. And although his code would never allow him to angle anybody, his code would absolutely allow him to take full advantage of that situation once it occurred.
And for the record, all things bring equal, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the way he took advantage of the situation. It’s just that all things weren’t equal - the other guy was an amateur, essentially a whale, and a little more decency or even generosity would have been a lot smarter.
I guess it's just another thing we got to chuck it up to Phil being Phil I guess lol

I do agree even though for me over the years Hellmuth is my fav player it is getting old, I wish Dnegs would have been in this line up instead of Phil would have been 1000% better
 
Anybody catch Mariano n the stream tonight identifying himself as a poker chip nerd and explaining paulson chips to degenerates who care about as much as most of the peeps in our own games? It was funny and convinced me he is secretly a lurker here or maybe a member on the down low. If you’re reading this, keep up the great work @mariano! Love your vlogs
 
Anybody catch Mariano n the stream tonight identifying himself as a poker chip nerd and explaining paulson chips to degenerates who care about as much as most of the peeps in our own games? It was funny and convinced me he is secretly a lurker here or maybe a member on the down low. If you’re reading this, keep up the great work @mariano! Love your vlogs
I once commented on one of his youtube videos about how he take close-up of the chips and he replied he had a thing about the photography more than the chips

I did told him about PCF thou so he may actually be a secret member here
 
Big shit just went down. Can't wait to hear Ingram and Bart's thoughts...

This is Postle 2.0. She gives the money back which does not do her ANY favors. I think she got a signal somehow to call off her stack like that, and feigned misreading her hand after it looks immensely shady when it's tabled.

What say you @Windwalker ?
 
What do u mean…something on hustler?
Robbi calls down Garret with J high 125k..then proceeds to win hand running it twice... 30 mins later she gives Garret the money bacvk and Garret leaves the game..going to get wild.. could Garret be banned from all casinos from this potentially
 
Cheating or not, I've never seen Garrett rattled like that. He's very calm, collective, analytical, and can get over bad beats quickly. At first I thought the lady is just a donkey, but reading around 2+2 and rewatching the stream, I'm leaning more towards cheating.

I'll throw a wrench into the whole thing. I posit that Feldman and Vertucci engineered the whole thing to get some more buzz around their HCL brand. It's lost a little bit of sizzle after the big high stakes week with Keating.
 
She had J3 the previous hand. She did not check her cards after saying “3s no good?”. Very odd… I’m guessing Garrett will give the money back.
 
On further thought the facts of the hand and in my opinion her lack of reaction are certainly suspicious but thinking back to Postle he tended to make river plays (usually raises he knew they couldn’t call) using his info. Here, there’s another card to come and gman has an open straight flush draw. It’s not like she’s trying to raise him off a marginal hand with J high, and it’s not like Garrett didn’t have substantial hand equity left.

Like even if you had knowledge is this really the spot to call off 100k with J high against every possible out?

If I were Garrett would I avoid playing on HCL for a while? Absolutely.
 
Maybe she’s just clueless. I mean if she’s cheating she called an all in behind so that’s pretty bad cheating haha.

But yeah, the whole thing felt super weird and I can understand why it triggered alarm bells for Garrett
 
Looks sus. Those yellow tint glasses are famous for seeing marked cards

The dude going ham calling Garret a pussy might be in on the cheating given his reaction

Garret has always been gracious in losing and has a ton of experience. His spidey senses say something ain't right and I believe it

Also, wtf with the fake lips, teeth, breasts, etc. She looks like mr potato head after a minute in the microwave
 
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This is Postle 2.0. She gives the money back which does not do her ANY favors. I think she got a signal somehow to call off her stack like that, and feigned misreading her hand after it looks immensely shady when it's tabled.

What say you @Windwalker ?
It reminds me of postle in that she couldn’t articulate why she did what she did. She even busted herself saying she thought Garret had A high, and he’s like “so you called with J high, why?”
Yeah I’ve never seen Garrett sit like there with nothing to say for so long. He didn’t know what to say, but he certainly wasn’t okay with NH.
 
Maybe she’s just clueless. I mean if she’s cheating she called an all in behind so that’s pretty bad cheating haha.

But yeah, the whole thing felt super weird and I can understand why it triggered alarm bells for Garrett
I'm unfamiliar with her, but apparently she's a student of Faraz Jakka and has been playing on stream games for a while.

The whole hand just didn't make any sense, and her explanation didn't really either as she just kept saying he bluffed her before and she knew he didn't have it. The problem is she loses to so many hands like AXcc, KQcc, all the overpairs that he chooses to take that line with, any AT, JT...I could totally make a case for calling with the Ace of clubs or even any ace, the call with J hi just doesn't make sense for a 3x pot shove call.

Not to mention calling J4o from the straddle is atrocious in any scenario, and she folds K7hh to a single raise in position a few hands later. The flop float I can see making a case for with backdoor clubs and straight options, but on the turn she's drawing to exactly nothing and no show down value. Check shoving would at least have fold equity in her favor, but check calling off $120k? Smells really fishy...
 
It reminds me of postle in that she couldn’t articulate why she did what she did. She even busted herself saying she thought Garret had A high, and he’s like “so you called with J high, why?”
Yeah I’ve never seen Garrett sit like there with nothing to say for so long. He didn’t know what to say, but he certainly wasn’t okay with NH.

I thought you had ace high so I called with J-high, seems legit

Some are speculating she could have a device in her water bottle to read the cards

If she knows the results then her being behind doesn't matter

Something def off, check her for Cuban ancestry
 
Looks sus. Those yellow tint glasses are famous for seeing marked cards

The dude going ham calling Garret a pussy might be in on the cheating given his reaction

Garret has always been gracious in losing and has a ton of experience. His spidey senses say something ain't right and I believe it

Also, wtf with the fake lips, teeth, breasts, etc. She looks like mr potato head after a minute in the microwave
She's also wearing really weirdly tinted contacts, that or the glasses was my first thought of a possible cheating method.
 

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