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Official PCF Whisk(e)y Thread (64 Viewers)

I had the chance to drink the latest release of the orphan barrels last night during our league game: Forged Oak.

It's a lovely 15 yo bourbon with the sweetest noose I've ever experienced... Just out of this world fragrance... The palate is great also... I'd say I prefer Forged Oak slightly over the other outstanding orphan barrel, The Lost Prophet... The release price was a lot lower that TLP but I've seen retailers charging double for a bottle already... Marketing is marketing and Diageo is a master at that... Our bottle didn't last more than a couple of hours unfortunately... ;)

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As a young adult. The only whiskey's/bourbon's I had tried were bottom shelf shit. I wasn't a fan. In the last few years I've had the opportunity to sample some of the good stuff. I am impressed.

That shit your brought to my house a few months ago was pretty good (can't remember the name).

Normally I'm a beer/tequila drinker. I think that is changing.
 
Yeah, Bill, there's some really good stuff out there... But even a few bottom shelvers are quite good...

I think I brought a Knob Creek SB...

I'm a equal opportunity drinker, LOL!! But since you also like tequila, remind me Friday to pour you some sipping tequila I have around... Man, 20 years ago I never thought tequila would taste this good...
 
Chippy!!!!

I think you're referring to the Special Bottling of Angel's Envy I brought... We had some other very good bourbons and whiskeys there as well... :)

Anyway, I wanted to bring Tom some good stuff from Michigan, other than the beers... This bottling of Angel's Envy was created specially for a friend of mine who owns a liquor store chain around here, so although not a Michigan product, you can only find this bottling here... :-)

Now, the regular bottling of Angel's Envy, which you can find everywhere, is also amazing! Some of my friends even prefer the regular bottling... Those are not cheap but far, far from being super expensive for a bourbon... You can find it anywhere from $38 to $49... At $40, it's a great choice specially for people who are not too used to bourbon... Their reaction is always, wow, I never thought bourbon would taste this good!

Sorry for the long winded answer brother!
 
ChaosRock said:
I think you're referring to the Special Bottling of Angel's Envy I brought... We had some other very good bourbons and whiskeys there as well... :)
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went to a wedding a few weeks ago and a tablemate pulled a fifth of angel's envy out of his coat and put it in the center of the table to share during dinner.
 
I'm thinking about picking up a bottle of Glenlivet 15 as a counterpoint to the Laphroaig 10 I have on hand. Any thoughts?
 
jbutler said:
went to a wedding a few weeks ago and a tablemate pulled a fifth of angel's envy out of his coat and put it in the center of the table to share during dinner.
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How was it? Was it to your taste?

Btw, AE is finished in Port Wine Casks but you wouldn't taste any port in it at all... It's definitely the most drinkable bourbon I've ever had... maybe not the most complex, but definitely great imo...
 
I feel on the outside looking in on this thread.

This discussion feels to me like those who discuss coffee.

I despise coffee and have probably had one sip lifetime. Same with this Whiskey discussion
 
ChaosRock said:
How was it? Was it to your taste?

Btw, AE is finished in Port Wine Casks but you wouldn't taste any port in it at all... It's definitely the most drinkable bourbon I've ever had... maybe not the most complex, but definitely great imo...
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yeah i've had it before. i dig it. maybe a little sweet for my taste, but it's a good occasional drink.
 
atomiktoaster said:
I'm thinking about picking up a bottle of Glenlivet 15 as a counterpoint to the Laphroaig 10 I have on hand. Any thoughts?
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Well, it's definitely a counterpoint to the Phroaig, Toaster :)

On the same price range I think I'd do a Macallan 12 (a Sherry Bomb) NOT the Fine Oak... Or, for a little less 'opposite', more like midway, I'd do a Highland Park 12...

I think both Glenlivet and Glenfiddish are okay but you could do better for the price... Just my opinion...
 
jbutler said:
yeah i've had it before. i dig it. maybe a little sweet for my taste, but it's a good occasional drink.
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Yeah, I should have figured you had it before... And you're right, it definitely leans towards the sweeter side...

* Disclaimer for others: when we say sweet, it's not really sweet sweet... :) It's still a bourbon!!! ;)
 
ChaosRock said:
Well, it's definitely a counterpoint to the Phroaig, Toaster :)

On the same price range I think I'd do a Macallan 12 (a Sherry Bomb) NOT the Fine Oak... Or, for a little less 'opposite', more like midway, I'd do a Highland Park 12...

I think both Glenlivet and Glenfiddish are okay but you could do better for the price... Just my opinion...
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"Opposite" for a single malt is going to end up being a middle ground overall for me, I think. I'll take a look at the Macallan. My other options for neat spirits are Blanton's, Patron Reposado, and Old New Orleans Rum. My nicer bottles hang around for years, since I'll only pour something once or twice a month.
 
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ChaosRock said:
I'm a equal opportunity drinker, LOL!! But since you also like tequila, remind me Friday to pour you some sipping tequila I have around... Man, 20 years ago I never thought tequila would taste this good...
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I love me some sipping Tequila. I'm a big Don Julio "Anejo" fan.
 
Well this thread has been so fun to peruse! I love most whisky, but especially bourbon. Here's a few of my favorite whisky's that weren't mentioned:
Crown Royal XR - red box
Crown Royal Monarch
Hudson Baby Bourbon
WL Weller (called the poor man's pappy)
Pritchard's Tennessee Whisky
Evan Williams SB
Jack Daniels SB
Gentleman's Jack
 
ChaosRock said:
.... This bottling of Angel's Envy was created specially for a friend of mine who owns a liquor store chain around here, so although not a Michigan product, you can only find this bottling here... :)

Now, the regular bottling of Angel's Envy, which you can find everywhere, is also amazing!
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The original AE (in the bottles hand-signed by Lincoln Henderson) was a neutral bourbon. Sadly, that is no longer produced. There are two current bottlings that I am aware of: the port finish, and the rye.

What was the finish or flavor of the custom bottling for your friend?
 
pltrgyst said:
The original AE (in the bottles hand-signed by Lincoln Henderson) was a neutral bourbon. Sadly, that is no longer produced. There are two current bottlings that I am aware of: the port finish, and the rye.

What was the finish or flavor of the custom bottling for your friend?
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There's another official bottling out there Larry, the Cask Strength... But that comes from the port barrels as well... A lot more expensive than the regular bottling and extremely hard to find, at least here in MI... I'm sure you're aware of those bottles as well...

The bottling I brought to S@P2 is a special bottling from the port cask bourbon... It was bottled for ML Liquors here in Michigan... They visited the cellar, bought specific casks they liked and blended those casks per their specifications... So it is still regular AE with just a touch of a different character... :)
 
ChaosRock said:
Well, it's definitely a counterpoint to the Phroaig, Toaster :)

On the same price range I think I'd do a Macallan 12 (a Sherry Bomb) NOT the Fine Oak... Or, for a little less 'opposite', more like midway, I'd do a Highland Park 12...

I think both Glenlivet and Glenfiddish are okay but you could do better for the price... Just my opinion...
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I followed your advice on the Macallan 12. I'm excited to give it a try tonight. While I was there, they coincidentally were pouring samples of Canadian Club Sherry Cask, which was remarkably smooth and agreeable for being just over twenty bucks a bottle. Very nice with ginger ale.
 
ChaosRock said:
On the same price range I think I'd do a Macallan 12 (a Sherry Bomb) NOT the Fine Oak... Or, for a little less 'opposite', more like midway, I'd do a Highland Park 12...
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Highland Park 12 is one of the great all-rounders.

I'm curious as to why you say that about the Fine Oak, though. I'm not a fan of anything oaked in general, but I really like the Macallan Fine Oak.
 
Today is a fine day. After lunch in Tampa, I found that our hotel bar had bottles of all the Orphan Project bottlings except the forged oak: lost prophet 20, barter house 20, rhetoric 20, and old blowhard 23. i am now $100 poorer, and considerably less prepared for tonight's wine extravaganza at Bern's steak house. 8;(

For both of us, the Lost Prophet was the clear winner, every bit Pappy's equal. The old blowhard was an oak-dominated disappointment. The other two, while very drinkable, both lacked the complexity and depth of the LP.

ymmv, but you need to taste them all to judge for yourself. They're worth the effort and expense to track down, imo.
 
atomiktoaster said:
I followed your advice on the Macallan 12. I'm excited to give it a try tonight. While I was there, they coincidentally were pouring samples of Canadian Club Sherry Cask, which was remarkably smooth and agreeable for being just over twenty bucks a bottle. Very nice with ginger ale.
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I hope you like it toaster... The older Macallans became somewhat of a 'trophy whiskeys' for not only their quality but also price (back then) and their sherry casks qualities... That's why some of those older MCs are called Sherry Bombs... The 12yo is their little brother and for the price it gives you a glimpse of the MCs character...
 
pltrgyst said:
Highland Park 12 is one of the great all-rounders.

I'm curious as to why you say that about the Fine Oak, though. I'm not a fan of anything oaked in general, but I really like the Macallan Fine Oak.
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I was having this conversation with Schmendr1ck during S@P2... We both agree HP12 might be the BEST value around in Malts... Outstanding for the price... If Toaster wasn't looking for the opposite of a Phoaig I would have recommended only the HP12...

I like the MC12 a little better than the Fine Oak because I believe it expresses the Macallan spirit a little better... Traditionally the MCs were the best expression of sherry aged malts, so the regular 12 keeps the tradition... Now I believe GlenDronach might have an upper hand on the Macallans on the sherry side, specially the 15yo Revival, just a stunner of a bottle imo... The Fine Oak is good also Larry, but imo, it strays from the Macallan soul... Btw, they started producing the Fine Oak only because apparently the sherry barrels are becoming too expensive to buy given the explosion of consumption of those drams...
 
I just finished a sip of the Macallan. Very smooth, with a ton of sherry body. The finish is nice and delicate. Huge contrast from a peaty Islay, which was my goal. I'll put the Highland Park 12 on my list for the next bottle.
 
I want to pick up a bottle of whiskey. I do not have the budget for a 100.00+ bottle. I'd like to keep it in the 40.00 range.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
 
detroitdad said:
I want to pick up a bottle of whiskey. I do not have the budget for a 100.00+ bottle. I'd like to keep it in the 40.00 range.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
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you can do quite a lot with $40. do you know what you're looking for with regard to the character of the whiskey? want a bourbon, scotch, rye, etc.?

if you're going in blind and see a bottle of elmer t. lee, you could do a lot worse. noah's mill is $40ish depending on region/store. ditto for knob creek (i've liked their rye lately) and four roses small batch.
 
jbutler said:
. do you know what you're looking for with regard to the character of the whiskey? want a bourbon, scotch, rye
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no idea to be honest. I have recently had knob hill creek. I liked it, but want something different. At Chaosrock's place I had forged oak, which is obviously out of my budget. Holy shit was that good...............wow..........
 

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