PAHWM - .25/.50 AKo (1 Viewer)

[sheikh617]

Alright! My first time doing this but I wanted to hear peoples thoughts on a hand from my game last night which was pretty cool. I'll do my best to explain everything. I was SB in this scenario and villain was playing pretty splashy and had gotten through 2-3 bluffs and been exposed on 2-3 as well. Playing pretty aggressive overall and was stuck, so he didn't mind getting some money in there to juice up the pots. Blinds are only .25/50 but it was probably playing closer to a .50/1 or even 1/1 game at this point. Stack were sort of deep. Table was 5 handed at the time of the hand. I'll likely update this through the day and give people an answer at the end to not keep peeps hanging for too long.

UTG folds - UTG+1 limps, button (villain) raises to $3
Hero looks down at
Hero Stack = $107
Villain = $145

Let's get the hand started!

 

[BGinGA]

Raise to $10.

 

[Kidsthesedays]

3! To 12 and I'm probably just gonna jam to any 4bet

 

[Frogzilla]

Good candidate to 3-bet and size up to 4x because OOP

 

[Kain8]

Definitely 3 bet, anywhere from $10 to $15, if a splashy villain 4 bets you, you can shove comfortably.

 

[detroitdad]

Be patient with posting. Give enough people to chime in.

I agree with the above. Im raising somewhere in the 10-12 range

 

[sheikh617]

Be patient with posting. Give enough people to chime in.

I agree with the above. Im raising somewhere in the 10-12 range

Detroit Dad has spoken. I will take my time with this post . I'll release the pre flop action and flop content in two hours and continue from there in the AM!

 

[Legend5555]

I'd raise to $11-12. 5 handed, OOP, AK vs. splashy opponent. Get some big money in now. My general 3 betting sizing is generally pot+2-3bb when OOP, and pot to slightly less than pot in position.

 

[Rhodeman77]

I agree with raising but I always like to go bigger against loose splashy players. Let’s get as much in as we can early while we likely have the best hand. I’m making it $15 or even $18.

 

[MrCatPants]

I agree with raising but I always like to go bigger against loose splashy players. Let’s get as much in as we can early while we likely have the best hand. I’m making it $15 or even $18.

Ditto. But would depend on what this group views as big since they regularly play together. But agree of going around 15.

 

[doughboy63]

Fold, we all know this is headed for a bad beat.

 

[sheikh617]

The pre flop info and cards on the flop are out.

Spoiler: Pre Flop/Flop

I raised to $11 in the SB. My goal was to isolate myself and the button. I wanted the UTG+1 limper to fold as this was the largest stack at the table and this person was running extremely well. Super solid image on the night and overall strong play when betting. I was willing to get my stack in against button. BB and UTG fold. UTG+1 calls (yikes), button calls. I didn't respect UTG+1's limp call range though. I felt this was purely a situation where he felt he could pay to see flops and with $33 in the pot pre, if he smashes it he can continue, if he misses, then oh well. He typically raised when having a hand. The flop was a pretty solid one for me.



Hero Stack - $96
Villain Stack - $134
Pot - $33.50

 

[detroitdad]

i bet 11 pre. I think a 25 to 28 bet feels about right

 

[Kain8]

Launching first sidewinder missile! Bet near pot to allow yourself a turn shove no matter what falls because we have that sweet sweet Ace of Clubs to block nut flushes.

 

[Frogzilla]

Bet small - this board is bone dry and you block calling ranges

 

[DrStrange]

Hero wants as small an SPR as he can arrange. It is a $0.25/$0.50 game, at least nominally. Sizing decisions are going to be highly dependent on the table norms and villains' natures.

Hero should raise what he thinks button will call. We don't want this to go multi-way either. I'd guess $10 is the smallest raise I would consider, that is a $7 raise into a ~$7 pot. Let's try $14 and hope that wouldn't be too greedy.

Flop: So Hero didn't get heads up, it is three way. The SPR is barely less than 3. Hero is pot committed with his hand on this board. So how to proceed?

I wonder what sort of hand UTG +1 would limp / call with. Small pairs, suited ace-rag, maybe suited connectors. UTG+1 maybe got barely enough odds to try set mining paying $10 to stab at a $33 pot + ~$100 implied. Hero is going to pay off in full.

GTO < game theory optimal > would likely have Hero making a bet less than half pot. Maybe even check / calling ? But this doesn't feel like a place where Hero should be doing GTO. He should be exploitive.

I suggest betting $25, planning to jam 100% of turns. It is ok to get two folds and win the pot. $25 into $33 is 75% pot. That leaves $71 back to jam into a $83 pot assuming one caller or 85% pot.

DrStrange

 

[Mojo1312]

Villain is stuck, so he is in for more than his stack. Hero knows he is bluffy and plays a wide range of hands. Hero raised oop in the hopes of isolating and now faces two opponents who have him out-stacked. Hero is not really concerned with UTG+1. So.....with all of this information

What is hero's post flop strategy and how is he ranging the Button?

 

[Eriks]

I like going ever bigger pre, maybe $12-13. How much does utg start the hand with?

On the flop I would bet enough to set up for a turn shove but I don’t want to look like I’m committed and discourage him from making a move. Leave the bluffer room to bluff.
$21-22 feels like a good amount. I kinda want to bet even smaller since we hold the but it would leave awkward SPR.

 

[Gobbs]

$12 raise pre-flop.
Post-flop, just read @DrStrange post. Sounds perfect to me.

 

[skylines]

$12 raise pre-flop.
Post-flop, just read @DrStrange post. Sounds perfect to me.

Yep. If UTG+1 jams I guess he will have 6-6 most of time, but not sure there is much you can do with your SPR.

 

[toynoob]

I'm with Erik fold while you can, you only have top pair. Just fold even if they check

 

[sheikh617]

Update time! Below is the flop action followed by what comes on the turn!

Spoiler: Post Flop Action + Turn Cards

So once the flop came out I liked what I saw. Top-top is pretty much what I was looking for and I have the nut flush blocker + the back door nut flush draw itself. I didn't want to scare people away as I felt like I was ahead of UTG+1's limp call range and I felt good about the button maybe having 9's -Q's and that is generous considering his play on the night. He could also possibly be calling with a couple random clubs or a suited connector. Ranging him was tough because of how bluffy he had been. I decided with a bet of $17, just about a half pot size bet. It was definitely more of a game theory bet as the Doc pointed out earlier, but I can see how sizing up to maybe $25 could be good here. I felt that if UTG+1 jammed and button called, $17 left me in a spot where I could potentially make a 'nitty' fold and feel bad about myself for the rest of the night lol. After making my bet UTG+1 folded and the villain on the button called. I also left myself with only a little more then a pot sized bet so a turn jam was still feasible. To the turn we go! Things got interesting here and this is where I would love to see people's thoughts.


Hero - $79
Villain = $117
Pot = $67.50

 

[Frogzilla]

I’m prob going check call looking to induce a bluff from a one club hand.

If check check, we can jam every river

 

[Eriks]

I’m prob going check call looking to induce a bluff from a one club hand.

If check check, we can jam every river

I like this. Judging from your description of villain I would think he’d raise a fd on the flop so I’m not concerned with him having clubs. Let him bluff or value bet himself

 

[skylines]

I kinda like a weird down bet to 20. To Villain it can look like a weak blocker bet and he might think you have enough left to fold. If he happens to shove and does have the flush at least you have some equity. On the off chance he has 6-6 your weird bet might make him think you have the flush, but him folding it seems unlikely.

 

[skylines]

I kinda like a weird down bet to 20. To Villain it can look like a weak blocker bet and he might think you have enough left to fold. If he happens to shove and does have the flush at least you have some equity. On the off chance he has 6-6 your weird bet might make him think you have the flush, but him folding it seems unlikely.

All that said I think a half pot bet works fine. Haha.

 

[Kain8]

Pot big, me smash with all-in and win.

 

[sheikh617]

Update!

Spoiler: Rocky Waters

With this card I wasn’t super happy because the flush got there and if he has two clubs it makes it even less likely that I’ll be able to get there. I also was not going anywhere with my hand so I ended up checking to let the villain chose the sizing. If he bet medium I jam if he jams I pretty much always call. Villain ending up jamming. I did think about it for like 30 seconds but deep down I knew I wasn’t going anywhere. I made the call. Soon as I did villain immediately asks me... “do you have a king”. Felt like a great sign to me and I said yes and villain shows his hand..



Wasn’t too happy. Villain had been splashy all night and throwing money away. I felt like shit knowing I was the poor victim to run into his aces when I had AK and flopped top/top. Poker is a sick game. River came below...

........

So yeah....Poker is a sick game and it felt good to be on the winning end of a suck out as I’ve been on a downswing and have been getting my money in good and being drawn on. Nut flush took it down and I did feel bad for villain. That turn jam was a great move to defend his hand against 1 club hands but I happened to have maybe one of the very few hands that just can’t really fold in this spot. Took down a solid pot.

 

[Kain8]

Your range was MILES ahead of his given his profile and how he has played this session. He could easily be getting out of line with some random King with the Jack, Ten, Nine of clubs in which case you have him absolutely crushed. Blind squirrels find nuts and all that.

 

[sheikh617]

Your range was MILES ahead of his given his profile and how he has played this session. He could easily be getting out of line with some random King with the Jack, Ten, Nine of clubs in which case you have him absolutely crushed. Blind squirrels find nuts and all that.

I agree man. When he turned his cards over my soul was crushed. I had zero clue that I could have been behind there lol, rather I was definitely a non believer. He also just had the same hand (maybe different suits) two hands prior, so it was the last thing I thought he'd have.