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Stolen Chips! Please keep an eye out. (6 Viewers)

Bill_Man618 said:
I think the issue with the detective is that he knows nothing about poker chips. It’s hard to explain to anyone the differences between chips since most people think they are the same. It’s even harder to convince someone that these chips are unique because I put a label on it. He told me he would have to subpoena to get the chips and he didn’t think he could get a judge to write a subpoena for it since it wasn’t certain they were unique to me. Hopefully, showing him that I was in fact the only owners of these labels will help. It makes no sense at all to me why he won’t take anything I give him. He’s gonna send me some stuff so I can upload the pictures to evidence lol.
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Tell him you left 100 grams of meth in the case too
And some coke you were breaking up :ROFL: :ROFLMAO::ROFL: :ROFLMAO::ROFL: :ROFLMAO::ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
Allllll of a sudden they care :ROFL: :ROFLMAO::ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
DZPoker said:
It’s a piece of paper someone claims was printed on sticky paper they then stuck to little disks of clay.

If you think that’s basically ‘a fingerprint’ to anyone outside of us chip geeks….you need to get out more (just say’in!)
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Yeah it’s basically only a fingerprint to us lol. The extent of his chip consisted of him seeing Elizabeth, IN on the label. He asked me if they were live and then suggested that maybe they were being sold from Elizabeth, IN.
 
Bill_Man618 said:
He asked me if they were live and then suggested that maybe they were being sold from Elizabeth, IN.
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To which i would reply "Is that evidence, sir?

You gave prima facia evidence of theft and he replies with baseless supposition.
 
Bill_Man618 said:
I definitely see the point. If I was in his shoes I’d prolly have a similar reaction. Having something unique like the fracs is helpful, but only if I can prove it. Which based on what Gear said early is likely. The detective told me that if I could find something that makes them unique and I can prove to him why then he could get the subpoena to get the chips. Th whole issue was the fact that he had to get subpoenas and a warrant and I wasn’t giving him enough to do that.
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Do you have any of those labels left on the sheets??
Pretty compelling evidence you made them with those labels
 
It's like when I got cash back from a self serve check out at Walmart.

Walmart has their stupid self serve checkouts to set up to return your card before it dispenses your cash, which is the opposite of what ATMs are required to do by law specifically because it makes it more likely someone is going to grab their card and walk away without waiting for the cash.

Anyway, I did just that and then I got to my car, unloaded my groceries and realized what I had done. I spoke to Walmart and they backed up the camera showing that they have the identity of the person that took the cash from the cash register. They couldn't give it to me, of course, but they would give it to the township police department.

So I go to the township police department to tell them what had happened, and the cop literally looks at me and says "and what would you like me to do about this?"

After I cited for her the section of the Pennsylvania criminal code that makes it a crime to just pocket found money, I think she realized that I was an attorney and that this was not going to go away. She talked to Walmart, Walmart provided the footage that showed the woman take the money and walk to her car, and the township police were actually able to follow the thief on street cameras from the Walmart all the way to her house, all on on surveillance cameras located throughout the township that the police controlled - talk about a surveillance state!

I had the money back within 3 hours, but that cop had to be forced to get off her well padded ass to do her job - and that was when EVERYTHING was video recorded.
 
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Bill_Man618 said:
I definitely see the point. If I was in his shoes I’d prolly have a similar reaction. Having something unique like the fracs is helpful, but only if I can prove it. Which based on what Gear said early is likely. The detective told me that if I could find something that makes them unique and I can prove to him why then he could get the subpoena to get the chips. Th whole issue was the fact that he had to get subpoenas and a warrant and I wasn’t giving him enough to do that.
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Doesn't need a warrant to go and talk to the thief.
 
HaRDHouSeiNC said:
Do you have any of those labels left on the sheets??
Pretty compelling evidence you made them with those labels
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Yes. I have like a sheet and half left. I told the cop that I still had the exact labels used on the chips he still told me that they might not be mine and he wouldn’t be able to get a subpoena.
 
Bill_Man618 said:
Yes. I have like a sheet and half left. I told the cop that I still had the exact labels used on the chips he still told me that they might not be mine and he wouldn’t be able to get a subpoena.
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Say there is pcp on all the stickers laced with mdma and phentonyl for raver parties

Wouldn’t want the thief to get hurt

That response is short for fuck off please
 
Samuel said:
If you can find them...

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Sorry it hasn't been smooth for you BM!
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Are you kidding me?

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Bill_Man618 said:
Yes. I have like a sheet and half left. I told the cop that I still had the exact labels used on the chips he still told me that they might not be mine and he wouldn’t be able to get a subpoena.
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If @Gear is happy to do it you could ask him to drop the cop an email stating he is the manufacturer, he has only made one set of this exact label and confirm that you were the purchaser.
 
There are only two real options here:

- You call some 'friends' or family, drive up his house and take back what is yours (the easy way if possible, the hard way if needed)
This is your way of solving stuff more then once in life

- If the above doesn't apply (to me it doesn't), let it be and see it as an expensive life lesson....nothing good can come from this and the juice is not worth the squeeze (imho)
 
A family member of mine once had their car stolen. The theif had simply walked into their house at night (house door was unlocked as they live in a peaceful small town) and took the car key from the shelf just within. He filed a claim with the police the next day, but what's funny is he later that day saw the car in the parking lot of a nearby store. He waited for someone to come, and when the thief came out of the store and tried to enter the car, he confronted him and the thief simply ran away. Obviously confronting a thief might be a scary situation, but arranging a meeting with the thief for buying the chips and then confronting him with the truth might be a valid option. I don't know what the gun laws look like in florida though. If there is is the slightest likelihood of the theif having a firearm on him I would never put myself in a situation like this over a couple thousand bucks.
 
Bill_Man618 said:
Yes. I have like a sheet and half left. I told the cop that I still had the exact labels used on the chips he still told me that they might not be mine and he wouldn’t be able to get a subpoena.
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Let’s be honest, I support law enforcement, but this cop is being a lazy excuse laden jsckass.
 
Marius L said:
A family member of mine once had their car stolen. The theif had simply walked into their house at night (house door was unlocked as they live in a peaceful small town) and took the car key from the shelf just within. He filed a claim with the police the next day, but what's funny is he later that day saw the car in the parking lot of a nearby store. He waited for someone to come, and when the thief came out of the store and tried to enter the car, he confronted him and the thief simply ran away. Obviously confronting a thief might be a scary situation, but arranging a meeting with the thief for buying the chips and then confronting him with the truth might be a valid option. I don't know what the gun laws look like in florida though. If there is is the slightest likelihood of the theif having a firearm on him I would never put myself in a situation like this over a couple thousand bucks.
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Please do not use this as justification to confront some shady Floridian about a crime you do not know they committed.
 
Thomacetti said:
There are only two real options here:

- You call some 'friends' or family, drive up his house and take back what is yours (the easy way if possible, the hard way if needed)
This is your way of solving stuff more then once in life

- If the above doesn't apply (to me it doesn't), let it be and see it as an expensive life lesson....nothing good can come from this and the juice is not worth the squeeze (imho)
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This is the truth.....I’ve had life lessons that have cost me a lot more than this. Didn’t do them again. At least not the same way. Lol
 
Marius L said:
A family member of mine once had their car stolen. The theif had simply walked into their house at night (house door was unlocked as they live in a peaceful small town) and took the car key from the shelf just within. He filed a claim with the police the next day, but what's funny is he later that day saw the car in the parking lot of a nearby store. He waited for someone to come, and when the thief came out of the store and tried to enter the car, he confronted him and the thief simply ran away. Obviously confronting a thief might be a scary situation, but arranging a meeting with the thief for buying the chips and then confronting him with the truth might be a valid option. I don't know what the gun laws look like in florida though. If there is is the slightest likelihood of the theif having a firearm on him I would never put myself in a situation like this over a couple thousand bucks.
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I’d say it’s likely that if I confront the thief he would have a gun in him or in the car. A grand is a lot to me, but at the end of the day I’m not gonna try and get in a bad situation over it.
Littleluck55 said:
This is the truth.....I’ve had life lessons that have cost me a lot more than this. Didn’t do them again. At least not the same way. Lol
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The value of the chips I’m going after is $600. It’s not likely that I’ll ever see anything more than this and I’m fine with that. But, I’m actually pretty close to getting something done. The fracs are unique and that’s all that’s needed if I can prove it for them to arrest and retrieve the property. Some of the items taken had low monetary value, but high sentimental value and I’d like to have those items back. It’s likely that this person has everything including those items. In the event they seize the property I’d likely get it all back and then NEVER leave it in my car again. The other thing is that he’s taken a lot from other people. I feel like I’ve been given help by a lot of people and it’s clear those items are out there. Most of the time people never get stolen items back and I think that if you have a good opportunity to get your things back you should seize it. At somepoint the juice won’t be worth the squeeze and I’ll just eat the loss like I did before.
 
In Texas, if a victim (owner) has some type of proof of ownership, they have a right to contest the ownership. Peace officers (police officers) have a right to pick up the alleged stolen items, and book them in for safekeeping. This can be done without a warrant.
A property hearing would be scheduled. This hearing would be in front of a justice of the peace (judge) and both the victim and new person in possession of the item would have to prove ownership of the items.
It would be up to the judge to then award the item to it's rightful owner. I would guess that you would have a good chance of recovering the chips, since I am thinking that you would have proof, like pictures of ownership.
Again, but this would be in the State of Texas.
 
navels said:
I'd be really curious to hear more details if you'd care to share. Probably good to add it to this thread: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/do-you-insure-your-chip-collection.80194/
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I’ll send more info later, but I found 2 company that would insure my entire collection ~10k for $80 a year. They included provisions stating that any chips lost or stolen in the mail were insured if they were being mailed to you after a purchase and some other nice things. I’d go with something specifically for collectors because they’ll have better tailored policies for collections.
 
Bill_Man618 said:
I’ll send more info later, but I found 2 company that would insure my entire collection ~10k for $80 a year. They included provisions stating that any chips lost or stolen in the mail were insured if they were being mailed to you after a purchase and some other nice things. I’d go with something specifically for collectors because they’ll have better tailored policies for collections.
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Yes about the same for me.
 
Bill_Man618 said:
I think the issue with the detective is that he knows nothing about poker chips. It’s hard to explain to anyone the differences between chips since most people think they are the same. It’s even harder to convince someone that these chips are unique because I put a label on it. He told me he would have to subpoena to get the chips and he didn’t think he could get a judge to write a subpoena for it since it wasn’t certain they were unique to me. Hopefully, showing him that I was in fact the only owners of these labels will help. It makes no sense at all to me why he won’t take anything I give him. He’s gonna send me some stuff so I can upload the pictures to evidence lol.
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Sorry this happened to you. Is there anything your car insurance can do since they were stolen from your car? Or maybe small claims court once you ID the person?

By the way, there is no way to prove that these labels are unique to you alone because Gear only made these for you. Even if Gear makes 90% of all the custom poker chip labels, it's not 100%. Just check out all the posts in the Poker Chip Labeling forum about using other vendors/services/at home printers/etc.
 

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