The Walking Dead (5 Viewers)

[Anthony Martino]

I haven't read the books, I've just skimmed Wiki's so have a general understanding of the conflict to come. The books and show diverge somewhat, I don't think there's harm in reading them. I mean, why'd you download them if you won't read them?

 

[monkeydog]

That sounds interesting. I just downloaded a bunch of magazines. Have not yet read them though.
Should I or not read them?

Read them. Comics are >>>>>>>> then the show.

 

[MegaTon44]

That sounds interesting. I just downloaded a bunch of magazines. Have not yet read them though.
Should I or not read them?

I would say that if you had enough interest to download the comics, then definitely read them. It gives you a solid backstory and let's you see how closely the show adheres to the source material. You'll notice a few interesting things that are certainly different, but others that are very similar.

You can also go to the link below and read a summary of each issue (or click on volumes and read those summaries). The site has become bogged down with spam, but if you are patient enough, it is definitely worth exploring.

Some people who read the comics say the show is crap. Some people who watch the show express no interest in reading the comics. It's purely your preference. Give it a try and see what you like.

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(Comic_Series)

 

[Puggy]

Thanks guys. I'll give them a go (even if it spoils some)...

 

[jbutler]

Grunching without yet reading the other finale-related comments ITT, but I thought the episode was kind of a double-edged sword. It was predictably slow and dumb until the last 15-20 minutes, but that last 15-20 minutes was so good that it almost stood out too much from the rest of the episode/season/series. Never before on this show has there been anything - in any respect including story, character development, acting, anything - as compelling as Jeffrey Dean Morgan's performance as Neegan.

The writing, the acting and his general persona come alive so dramatically next to everyone else's one-note characters and performances. The rest of these people look like community theater-level actors compared to his Neegan. I don't read the comics or read anything about them, so I have no idea what will happen, but I really, really hope he sticks around. Frankly I hope he has so much fun with Lucille that he continues on and whacks a couple more of those morons after the first one.

If the show had any balls whatsoever they would kill off Glenn. Since they don't my ranking in order of likelihood would be Eugene, Abraham, and Aaron.

 

[SixSpeedFury]

Oh, Negan is gonna be around for a while

 

[trever]

I watched the first third of the finale when I realized that I just don't care anymore and turned it off. This entire season has been a slow pointless slide downhill. I've heard great things about Negan, but it isn't worth the months-long slog to get there.

 

[Anthony Martino]

I watched the first third of the finale when I realized that I just don't care anymore and turned it off. This entire season has been a slow pointless slide downhill. I've heard great things about Negan, but it isn't worth the months-long slog to get there.

Runs a marathon, decides at mile 25 it's just not worth his time and goes home.

 

[manamongkids]

Ive been rooting for Carls death for like 4 years. I hope he dies. So I dont have to watch a 20 yr old (right? he's gotta be 20 in the show with how much time has passed?) wear a fucking cowboy hat that was his dads and is 3 sizes too big

 

[Anthony Martino]

Ive been rooting for Carls death for like 4 years. I hope he dies. So I dont have to watch a 20 yr old (right? he's gotta be 20 in the show with how much time has passed?) wear a fucking cowboy hat that was his dads and is 3 sizes too big

I'm hoping Negan feeds his other eyeball to Rick and then we can watch Carl bump into shit for a season, maybe fall of a cliff.

 

[MegaTon44]

Ive been rooting for Carls death for like 4 years. I hope he dies. So I dont have to watch a 20 yr old (right? he's gotta be 20 in the show with how much time has passed?) wear a fucking cowboy hat that was his dads and is 3 sizes too big

Carl has been an absolutely awful character for several seasons. The actor is 16 I believe, but his comic counterpart is several years younger at this stage. Unfortunately, Carl's role in the Negan saga is much more involved as Negan likes the "future serial killer".

 

[jbutler]

Unfortunately, Carl's role in the Negan saga is much more involved as Negan likes the "future serial killer".

I don't mean to discourage you from posting ITT, but honestly this is the kind of stuff that I would prefer not be posted. I'm not extraordinarily invested in the show, but I still don't want to know that Carl is likely to be around for a long time.

 

[Anthony Martino]

I don't mean to discourage you from posting ITT, but honestly this is the kind of stuff that I would prefer not be posted. I'm not extraordinarily invested in the show, but I still don't want to know that Carl is likely to be around for a long time.

Rick's probably going to be around for awhile too

 

[Ronoh]

(right? he's gotta be 20 in the show with how much time has passed?)

In real time or show time? How much time do you think has passed? Judith may be Shane's child, he died before she was born and she is still a baby... it's only been a few years since the world fell apart.

 

[Ronoh]

I don't mean to discourage you from posting ITT, but honestly this is the kind of stuff that I would prefer not be posted. I'm not extraordinarily invested in the show, but I still don't want to know that Carl is likely to be around for a long time.

This.

 

[MegaTon44]

I don't mean to discourage you from posting ITT, but honestly this is the kind of stuff that I would prefer not be posted. I'm not extraordinarily invested in the show, but I still don't want to know that Carl is likely to be around for a long time.

I don't really consider it a spoiler of any sort to say that a living character is alive past the next few scenes. Even during Negan's speech, he called Carl a "future serial killer", hence the quotes in my prior post.

However, I understand your position. Since this is the second time I heard this in a few days, this thread probably isn't for me.

 

[jbutler]

I don't really consider it a spoiler of any sort to say that a living character is alive past the next few scenes. Even during Negan's speech, he called Carl a "future serial killer", hence the quotes in my prior post.

However, I understand your position. Since this is the second time I heard this in a few days, this thread probably isn't for me.

Like I said, I don't mean to discourage and I hope what I wrote didn't sound harsh. I took your post to mean that Neegan's storyline is intertwined with Carl's for some time in the comics.

I know some boards have two threads for popular shows adapted from source material like this and Game of Thrones where one thread embraces spoilers and one is completely spoiler-free. I don't know that this board is big enough to warrant that, but I think it would be preferable to mixing them.

 

[MegaTon44]

No worries at all. I certainly don't want to ruin anything for anyone.

I've followed the comics and show for years and have put a decent bit of research into this franchise. The effects of that fervor will naturally come out in conversation about the show. Nothing too crazy in terms of spoilers. Negan just likes Carl's hardened personality, as the show depicts when Carl is stonefaced in the presence of possible death.

 

[manamongkids]

In real time or show time? How much time do you think has passed? Judith may be Shane's child, he died before she was born and she is still a baby... it's only been a few years since the world fell apart.

Both, he looks like hes early 20s and the show has been around for 5 years or so. I know that doesnt necessarily match the timeline of the story, but it seems like forever. I think Judith gets her license in the next episode

 

[Anthony Martino]

It's kinda hard to spoil based on the comics events since the show diverges from them and nobody knows for sure Carl survives in the tv version.

 

[trever]

Runs a marathon, decides at mile 25 it's just not worth his time and goes home.

Didn't have to play the hand at all.
Could have folded the flop
Should have folded the turn
Finally folded on the river

 

[Puggy]

The minute I saw Wincester-Negan for the first time, I just waited when do his eyeballs pop into black or yellow. Excellent actor choice IMO.

 

[Anthony Martino]

The minute I saw Wincester-Negan for the first time, I just waited when do his eyeballs pop into black or yellow. Excellent actor choice IMO.

It's been awhile but wasn't the yellow-eyed demon completely different from him? He was the Winchesters dad, not the demon that killed their mom. Did he get possessed by the yellow eyed demon at some point?

 

[Meddler2]

It's been awhile but wasn't the yellow-eyed demon completely different from him? He was the Winchesters dad, not the demon that killed their mom. Did he get possessed by the yellow eyed demon at some point?

I don't believe so in Supernatural. I was watching that today...still awesome.

 

[Puggy]

It's been awhile but wasn't the yellow-eyed demon completely different from him? He was the Winchesters dad, not the demon that killed their mom. Did he get possessed by the yellow eyed demon at some point?

Yepp. He was Winchesters dad. The yellow eyed demon was Azazel, who was the first big bad wolf in Supernatural. Can't recall who possessed him, was it Azazel or not, but I do recall he was possessed at some point.

I don't believe so in Supernatural. I was watching that today...still awesome.

My all time favorite series. Just watched the latest episode yesterday. Fawesome. I have that anti-possession tattoo in my chest. Big fan.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Finally caught up on TWD last night. I'll tank for a bit, and then make my call...

• 95% Abraham. Lucille/Negan's victim gets hit, then straightens up. We saw Abraham straighten up when Negan walked the line of prisoners intimidating them. Abe wasn't going to give Negan any more satisfaction. You can kill him, but you can't take his spirit. Also, he's the only one that has the strength to straighten up after being whacked in the noggin. All the women (this includes the woosy Aaron) would have dropped like a house of cards. Darryll has already gone through the wringer and would have also gone down. As mentioned, Rick/Carl couldn't be killed, due to Negans threats. Glenn wouldn't straighten up, he would take one last glance at Maggie. Therefore, Abraham gets the send-off.
• 5% One of the writers. One of my earliest posts ITT mentioned that you cannot use logic or science to determine the outcome of a TV show. Writers do stupid things because that's how they think things work. They don't have backgrounds in physics, psychology, or engineering. Things get written in to serve their end-goals, not because it makes sence. They write it, we (or the producers/writers/cast) make up BS explanations as to why it happened.

On a different front, I've always believed the best movies are the ones with a really likable bad-guy. Love to hate personalities, or simply awesome villains. Negan promises to be one of those compelling villains. I suspect he'll survive more than a single season, and his final death will be pure Hollywood.

Finally, to the Carl haters. Carl's a teenager. Go to the f*cking mall, and point out a single teenage boy that you don't think should get Negan's bat. 30(ish) years ago, some old guy probably wanted us to be the next zombie victim. If you hate Carl, chances are he's playing his part perfectly.

 

[manamongkids]

Finally caught up on TWD last night. I'll tank for a bit, and then make my call...

• 95% Abraham. Lucille/Negan's victim gets hit, then straightens up. We saw Abraham straighten up when Negan walked the line of prisoners intimidating them. Abe wasn't going to give Negan any more satisfaction. You can kill him, but you can't take his spirit. Also, he's the only one that has the strength to straighten up after being whacked in the noggin. All the women (this includes the woosy Aaron) would have dropped like a house of cards. Darryll has already gone through the wringer and would have also gone down. As mentioned, Rick/Carl couldn't be killed, due to Negans threats. Glenn wouldn't straighten up, he would take one last glance at Maggie. Therefore, Abraham gets the send-off.
• 5% One of the writers. One of my earliest posts ITT mentioned that you cannot use logic or science to determine the outcome of a TV show. Writers do stupid things because that's how they think things work. They don't have backgrounds in physics, psychology, or engineering. Things get written in to serve their end-goals, not because it makes sence. They write it, we (or the producers/writers/cast) make up BS explanations as to why it happened.

On a different front, I've always believed the best movies are the ones with a really likable bad-guy. Love to hate personalities, or simply awesome villains. Negan promises to be one of those compelling villains. I suspect he'll survive more than a single season, and his final death will be pure Hollywood.

Finally, to the Carl haters. Carl's a teenager. Go to the f*cking mall, and point out a single teenage boy that you don't think should get Negan's bat. 30(ish) years ago, some old guy probably wanted us to be the next zombie victim. If you hate Carl, chances are he's playing his part perfectly.

I dont hate Carl, I just hate looking at his face, and looking at him with a 10gallon hat on his head

 

[Puggy]

It's been awhile but wasn't the yellow-eyed demon completely different from him? He was the Winchesters dad, not the demon that killed their mom. Did he get possessed by the yellow eyed demon at some point?

Apologies for threadjack, but had to check. John Winchester was possessed by Azazel, the yellow eyed demon at some point.

 

[detroitdad]

If you hate Carl, chances are he's playing his part perfectly.

I raised two teenage daughters. Amen to this Mr @Poker Zombie

 

[daschuck77]

Hated hated hated the season finale. This is the only television show that I would follow an RV around for 80 minutes and not even skip commercials.