I got my own oil blend I use for oiling.
These were hydrogen peroxide for 15hrs, then Dawn and a magic eraser.
Ultrasonic Chip Cleaning (8 Viewers)
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These were hydrogen peroxide for 15hrs, then Dawn and a magic eraser.
paulkersey
Two Pair
Exactly. I already speak too much!
paulkersey
Two Pair
Do you really notice much of a difference in waiting a week? Maybe I'm just impatient, but I can't tell the difference. Maybe that becomes apparent with time and game play? (I'm still waiting to see if it melts the Justin racks just to be safe)
Also, how do you soak them in quantity? Literally in a bowl all together or do you find they need to be individually separated?
Yes. Absolutely. You can’t tell the difference in a matter of hours or days. You notice the difference after months.
Storing your oiled chips in a birdcage or some other relatively air tight container also helps the longevity of your oiling A LOT.
It also bears repeating that chips well oiled with J&J gel are quite resistant to picking up dirt and oils from players hands. That’s especially important for ASM/CPC chips, as I’ve found no way to clean their water/detergent soluble clay formula without literally melting the clay.
Because it’s a GEL, I’ve found no way to soak them without (unfortunately) handling each individual chip and applying the J&J gel using a round shoe shine sponge applicator.
I won’t use a less viscous mineral oil than J&J gel to make things faster/easier, because the last time I used regular mineral oil, it seeped under the inlays of a few dozen Paulson Nationals $5 chips. 80-100% of the inlays were significantly darkened.
I also won’t use the other (somewhat popular?) method of putting your chips in a bath of water that has a bit of mineral oil in it for the same reason (seepage under inlays), and also because I don’t want mineral oil trapping water in the clay of the chips.
(I once thought about diluting the J&J gel with a very fast evaporating lacquer thinner, and then using an automotive paint spray gun (I used to paint cars) to spray the thinned gel on the chips, with the idea that the thinner would evaporate before the thinned gel could seep under the inlays. However, lacquer thinner contains a lot of acetone, and I felt the risk to the clay and the inlay material was unacceptable.)
I bought the J & J gel, hated the smell (does the smell last on the chips?) so I went back to mineral oil I got from Walgreens.
I don’t use inlays so seepage ain’t no thang to me
Periodically replacing/refreshing the peroxide bubbles on the chip surfaces will result in quicker cleaning. Measurably quicker.
Eventually, the peroxide solution that is in direct contact with the chips loses effectiveness. Stirring (or otherwise getting fresher solution in contact with the chips) will clean more effectively, thus faster overall.
The trick is determining exactly when it loses effectiveness and needs refreshing. It's somewhere between "never refreshing" and "constantly stirring".
Methinks we need a new thread for peroxide cleaning. We've been far away from the ultrasonic topic for some time.
Finally finished cleaning and oiling the chips.
You have a valid point. I was thinking the same thing a few days back.
I will tie it all together when I finish a few more experiments, possibly with three new topics:
- Manually cleaning chips with a different cleaner (high effort, but great results).
- Pre-soak for chips prior to ultrasonic cleaning (likely using peroxide, but possibly not).
- Ultrasonic cleaning using a different cleaner (after the pre-soak).
OK, I stand by what I said in my last post immediately above. However, until I’ve finished tweaking the cleaning solutions and procedures, and written everything up in detail, I thought you might be interested in seeing some BEFORE and AFTER photos.
If you happen to be one of the folks who actually enjoy spending hours manually scrubbing your chips, STOP reading this post now; it’s not for you.
For the rest of you who are lazy like I am…
Specifically, these photos are of chips that were soaked in a solution (a blend of three cleaners) that I intended to address #2 in my previous post above, i.e. a “PRE-soak prior to ultrasonic cleaning”.
However, it has turned into a “do it all SOAK with no manual scrubbing and no ultrasonic” sort of thing.
The catch is that it’s only for inlaid chips, as it pretty much destroys hot stamps… errr… I meant to say, it’s a GREAT way to remove OVERSTAMPS like on Grand Casino Hinckley chips (way better than using isopropyl alcohol, not to mention a lot safer, and cheaper)!
Without further ado…
BEFORE - Side 1:
BEFORE - Side 2:
AFTER - Side 1:
AFTER - Side 2:
This is not a joke. Those chips were only soaked, then rinsed in cold tap water, placed on a bar mop towel, and *patted* dry with another bar mop towel.
There was ZERO scrubbing or wiping or other manual effort involved. The chips were then allowed to air dry for 3 hours prior to taking the AFTER photos.
The photos are NOT retouched. In all four photos, the chips were under a very bright light, and camera flash was not used.
Again, though, this can NOT be used for hot stamp chips unless it is your intent to remove the hot stamps.
As you can see in the AFTER photos, the chips are dried out, just as they are when using Lundmark in the ultrasonic. These chips are currently soaking in some J&J gel, after which I’ll wipe the excess, and then compare to other chips. I want to ensure that this soak didn’t cause any noticeable color fading.
If you happen to be one of the folks who actually enjoy spending hours manually scrubbing your chips, STOP reading this post now; it’s not for you.
For the rest of you who are lazy like I am…
Specifically, these photos are of chips that were soaked in a solution (a blend of three cleaners) that I intended to address #2 in my previous post above, i.e. a “PRE-soak prior to ultrasonic cleaning”.
However, it has turned into a “do it all SOAK with no manual scrubbing and no ultrasonic” sort of thing.
The catch is that it’s only for inlaid chips, as it pretty much destroys hot stamps… errr… I meant to say, it’s a GREAT way to remove OVERSTAMPS like on Grand Casino Hinckley chips (way better than using isopropyl alcohol, not to mention a lot safer, and cheaper)!
Without further ado…
BEFORE - Side 1:
BEFORE - Side 2:
AFTER - Side 1:
AFTER - Side 2:
This is not a joke. Those chips were only soaked, then rinsed in cold tap water, placed on a bar mop towel, and *patted* dry with another bar mop towel.
There was ZERO scrubbing or wiping or other manual effort involved. The chips were then allowed to air dry for 3 hours prior to taking the AFTER photos.
The photos are NOT retouched. In all four photos, the chips were under a very bright light, and camera flash was not used.
Again, though, this can NOT be used for hot stamp chips unless it is your intent to remove the hot stamps.
As you can see in the AFTER photos, the chips are dried out, just as they are when using Lundmark in the ultrasonic. These chips are currently soaking in some J&J gel, after which I’ll wipe the excess, and then compare to other chips. I want to ensure that this soak didn’t cause any noticeable color fading.
I need more details! No scrubbing at all is amazing. I don't enjoy doing it, I only do it because it's necessary (so I thought).OK, I stand by what I said in my last post immediately above. However, until I’ve finished tweaking the cleaning solutions and procedures, and written everything up in detail, I thought you might be interested in seeing some BEFORE and AFTER photos.
If you happen to be one of the folks who actually enjoy spending hours manually scrubbing your chips, STOP reading this post now; it’s not for you.
For the rest of you who are lazy like I am…
Specifically, these photos are of chips that were soaked in a solution (a blend of three cleaners) that I intended to address #2 in my previous post above, i.e. a “PRE-soak prior to ultrasonic cleaning”.
However, it has turned into a “do it all SOAK with no manual scrubbing and no ultrasonic” sort of thing.
The catch is that it’s only for inlaid chips, as it pretty much destroys hot stamps… errr… I meant to say, it’s a GREAT way to remove OVERSTAMPS like on Grand Casino Hinckley chips (way better than using isopropyl alcohol, not to mention a lot safer, and cheaper)!
Without further ado…
BEFORE - Side 1:
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BEFORE - Side 2:
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AFTER - Side 1:
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AFTER - Side 2:
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This is not a joke. Those chips were only soaked, then rinsed in cold tap water, placed on a bar mop towel, and *patted* dry with another bar mop towel.
There was ZERO scrubbing or wiping or other manual effort involved. The chips were then allowed to air dry for 3 hours prior to taking the AFTER photos.
The photos are NOT retouched. In all four photos, the chips were under a very bright light, and camera flash was not used.
Again, though, this can NOT be used for hot stamp chips unless it is your intent to remove the hot stamps.
As you can see in the AFTER photos, the chips are dried out, just as they are when using Lundmark in the ultrasonic. These chips are currently soaking in some J&J gel, after which I’ll wipe the excess, and then compare to other chips. I want to ensure that this soak didn’t cause any noticeable color fading.
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