Are CPC really worth the price? (3 Viewers)

[detroitdad]

really? While I love beyond all others the feel of web molds. I found the two TRK molds feel the best above all the other CPC offerings. The Lcrown is the better of the two. I don't like nubby A mold, HHR, Hourglass...ect.

B mold is hands down my favorite mold. I like A mold and E and C mold. scrown mold felt cheap and plastiky for some reason.

 

[Lash]

really? While I love beyond all others the feel of web molds. I found the two TRK molds feel the best above all the other CPC offerings. The Lcrown is the better of the two. I don't like nubby A mold, HHR, Hourglass...ect.

I would like to feel some worn/broken in
A molds

 

[LinkyBabe]

Firstly, I’d like to say that I think CPC is a great company with fantastic people at the helm.

The lack of a vibrant yellow is one of the things that kind of turns me away from CPC as well. Another thing that turns me off is the brass flakes. In some colors they make the chips look almost dirty. I’ve always seen CPC as a company that has a lot more room for retro designs whereas BCC catered more towards modern-looking designs. There’s no comparing the two as BCC had notoriously bad QC, but I often wished that I could go back in time and buy a ton of BCC chips for their color palette and pray that I didn’t receive egg-shaped inlays.

^^^ This ^^^... and not just the yellows as I wish all of their colours were a little more vibrant, even though they have come a long way. And yeah, I really wish the brass flakes weren't there. I realize the lighter weight would put some off, but a wise man once said...

 

[PlaidDragon]

Are CPC really worth the price

The answer used to be "yes".

Now, given they come with tri-moon spots the answer has changed to: "omg-sonofobytch-freaking-sharks-with-lazer-beams-yes".

 

[Bluffhunter]

The answer used to be "yes".

Now, given they come with tri-moon spots the answer has changed to: "omg-sonofobytch-freaking-sharks-with-lazer-beams-yes".

What is tri-moon spot?
On the chip designer there isn’t a choice like that

 

[detroitdad]

What is tri-moon spot?
On the chip designer there isn’t a choice like that

its the very last option. Called 3trim

 

[dennis63]

I am biased, but I say CPC chips are worth more than their current prices.

I can look around my office for anything that will still be around 20 years after I'm dead. My CPC chips are the only thing.

Classic Poker Chips may be taking all the heat for increases in the price of casino chips since the "glory days" of two decades ago, when three companies were competing for the business, and Paulson home chips were plentiful.

As the only remaining manufacturer making chips for the public, there is no competitor offering lower (or higher) prices.

The people who know will tell you that new chips from GPI -- if you could buy them -- would cost as much as new chips from CPC, and perhaps much more. (This, despite their using lower-cost labor in Mexico.)

 

[k9dr]

Yes

 

[andy699669]

I still need that chip sound test, especially for FDL and DSQ.

 

[rocollis]

Yes

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Man, I love that Suicide Queen design!

 

[andy699669]

Suicide Jacks will complete the Suicides roster.

 

[colter ripton]

The people who know will tell you that new chips from GPI -- if you could buy them -- would cost as much as new chips from CPC, and perhaps much more. (This, despite their using lower-cost labor in Mexico.)

I'm pretty sure that isnt true. I think that new chips from gpi (thc molds atleast) are much cheaper than cpcs. The problem is you cant order them. Lol

 

[Bluffhunter]

^^^ This ^^^... and not just the yellows as I wish all of their colours were a little more vibrant, even though they have come a long way. And yeah, I really wish the brass flakes weren't there. I realize the lighter weight would put some off, but a wise man once said...

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Yes, Wish they had the yellow/orange like the S&K

 

[Lemonzest]

I'm pretty sure that isnt true. I think that new chips from gpi (thc molds atleast) are much cheaper than cpcs. The problem is you cant order them. Lol

Obviously many variables but I think they are a buck each +/-

 

[colter ripton]

Obviously many variables but I think they are a buck each +/-

Yeah that's about what I have heard also. Maybe even 1.25 to 1.50, but for those higher level spot chips you would pay atleast double that with cpc. I dont think there is nearly as much of an up charge for complex spot patterns or different colors with gpi.

 

[Lemonzest]

Yeah that's about what I have heard also. Maybe even 1.25 to 1.50, but for those higher level spot chips you would pay atleast double that with cpc. I dont think there is nearly as much of an up charge for complex spot patterns or different colors with gpi.

Might not really be fair to compare though as the casino volume price of about a buck per chip is going to be based on massive quantities.

 

[PlaidDragon]

I am biased, but I say CPC chips are worth more than their current prices.

Wait! Don't say things like that until AFTER my next order is complete!

 

[colter ripton]

Might not really be fair to compare though as the casino volume price of about a buck per chip is going to be based on massive quantities.

Oh yeah I understand the reasons why. Pgi has a factory in mexico so much cheaper labor and probably taxes and everything else is cheaper there also. I would also imagine they have alot more automation. I'm just guessing about the automation, but i think it's a good guess.

 

[MoscowRadio]

Yeah that's about what I have heard also. Maybe even 1.25 to 1.50, but for those higher level spot chips you would pay atleast double that with cpc. I dont think there is nearly as much of an up charge for complex spot patterns or different colors with gpi.

If I remember correctly, weren't customs, even with more complex spots, much cheaper with BCC?

 

[riotouslevity]

Unless you are a ceramics fiend, what would you hold up as a better value?

 

[saleen121212]

Obviously many variables but I think they are a buck each +/-

Can you imagine being able to buy any thc chips from Paulson brand new for a dollar? That is so mind blowing.

 

[Lemonzest]

Unless you are a ceramics fiend, what would you hold up as a better value?

what do you mean?

 

[Lemonzest]

Can you imagine being able to buy any thc chips from Paulson brand new for a dollar? That is so mind blowing.

yep would be pretty sick.

 

[riotouslevity]

what do you mean?

What I mean is ceramics are typically at a lower price point and have their pros and cons. If one prefers the performance ceramics give:. Light, full face printable and custom , they are clearly better value. Aka a better price point.

Outside of top ceramics, what is the proposed alternative to cpc for a better value than they give with highest quality molds, molded in custom inlay, most dimensions of customized features.

There's cheaper chips that one will trade dollars for performance for sure, but I don't see any as a better value.

So really a budget decision .

 

[dennis63]

I'm pretty sure that isnt true. I think that new chips from gpi (thc molds atleast) are much cheaper than cpcs. The problem is you cant order them. Lol

This will be tough to prove either way. In 2014, I was told by an industry insider that GPI and CPC chips were about the same. More recently (last month) I spoke to someone who knows the cost of GPI chips to casinos. He would not give me an exact cost per chip, but I told him what Key West chips cost.

I asked what GPI was charging these days. His response: "They're really, really expensive."

The "buck a chip" guess was a ballpark maybe 12 or more years ago. I think the guess of $1.25 per chip is low for the same reason. The base cost of materials is higher than you would think.

$1.50 @ may be possible if you are buying many, many chips.

I wish I knew what GPI charged per chip these days.

The casino where I worked had a minor change in the name. They changed the logo on the playing cards, but kept the old, worn, sticky GPI chips. The dealers would always ask when we would be getting new chips with the updated logo.

The casino bosses said new chips were "too expensive."

 

[Lemonzest]

What I mean is ceramics are typically at a lower price point and have their pros and cons. If one prefers the performance ceramics give:. Light, full face printable and custom , they are clearly better value. Aka a better price point.

Outside of top ceramics, what is the proposed alternative to cpc for a better value than they give with highest quality molds, molded in custom inlay, most dimensions of customized features.

There's cheaper chips that one will trade dollars for performance for sure, but I don't see any as a better value.

So really a budget decision .

I dont really know how to compare ceramics vs. paulsons/CPC. If we just ignore price and look at the products they are so completely different. To me ceramics are not in the same ballpark. Technically still poker chips but to me that is where the similarities cease.

If what you want is a budget set of custom chips then ceramic hybrids are for you.

I often make the argument (without much support) that dice chips are great value.

 

[riotouslevity]

I dont really know how to compare ceramics vs. paulsons/CPC. If we just ignore price and look at the products they are so completely different. To me ceramics are not in the same ballpark. Technically still poker chips but to me that is where the similarities cease.

If what you want is a budget set of custom chips then ceramic hybrids are for you.

I often make the argument (without much support) that dice chips are great value.

I think you get booted from the forum if you say dice chips

 

[saleen121212]

For customs I like Sunfly hybrids and cpc. Haven't messed with anything from Gene on chipco blanks, but I might be soon and I am sure it's top notch.

 

[colter ripton]

This will be tough to prove either way. In 2014, I was told by an industry insider that GPI and CPC chips were about the same. More recently (last month) I spoke to someone who knows the cost of GPI chips to casinos. He would not give me an exact cost per chip, but I told him what Key West chips cost.

I asked what GPI was charging these days. His response: "They're really, really expensive."

The "buck a chip" guess was a ballpark maybe 12 or more years ago. I think the guess of $1.25 per chip is low for the same reason. The base cost of materials is higher than you would think.

$1.50 @ may be possible if you are buying many, many chips.

I wish I knew what GPI charged per chip these days.

The casino where I worked had a minor change in the name. They changed the logo on the playing cards, but kept the old, worn, sticky GPI chips. The dealers would always ask when we would be getting new chips with the updated logo.

The casino bosses said new chips were "too expensive."

Not to keep beating a dead horse here, but I know about what the star chips cost per chip on average. If they can make those chips for that price I dont see how cpc prices are comparable. The price has been stated on this and other forms multiple times by people involved in the buy. I cannot remember the exact price but I'm like 99 percent sure it was between 1.25 and 1.50 a chip for the thc star chips. Closer to 1.25 I think.

Those spot patterns and chips would easily be double that with cpc. Again, I understand why, but I'm just saying that the statement that paulsons are as or more expensive to buy is wrong.

For the record, and to answer the ops question, if your looking for a custom set I think cpc is definatley worth the money. Some of the custom sets I have seen are absolutely awsome. I want to buy a custom set myself at some point.

 

[saleen121212]

Not to keep beating a dead horse here, but I know about what the star chips cost per chip on average. If they can make those chips for that price I dont see how cpc prices are comparable. The price has been stated on this and other forms multiple times by people involved in the buy. I cannot remember the exact price but I'm like 99 percent sure it was between 1.25 and 1.50 a chip for the thc star chips. Closer to 1.25 I think.

Those spot patterns and chips would easily be double that with cpc. Again, I understand why, but I'm just saying that the statement that paulsons are as or more expensive to buy is wrong.

For the record, and to answer the ops question, if your looking for a custom set I think cpc is definatley worth the money. Some of the custom sets I have seen are absolutely awsome. I want to buy a custom set myself at some point.

Right, the custom factor is the main reason to go cpc and they do an awesome job and we are lucky to have a high end custom clay option, but Paulson's and cpc are very different so it is surprising Paulson's are half the price, then again the star chips are now 3x the price of cpc, it's all about that supply/demand and rarity. I wish pcf was able to order the star chips from Paulson in the same quantity casinos do for 1.25 per chip, since they can't use the same chips anymore anyway, why not make money on them...