Are CPC really worth the price? (2 Viewers)

[BGinGA]

I wish I knew what GPI charged per chip these days.

Read on.

Not to keep beating a dead horse here, but I know about what the star chips cost per chip on average. If they can make those chips for that price I dont see how cpc prices are comparable. The price has been stated on this and other forms multiple times by people involved in the buy. I cannot remember the exact price but I'm like 99 percent sure it was between 1.25 and 1.50 a chip for the thc star chips. Closer to 1.25 I think.

Those spot patterns and chips would easily be double that with cpc. Again, I understand why, but I'm just saying that the statement that paulsons are as or more expensive to buy is wrong.

You are absolutely correct.

Typical base price for Paulson brand RHC or THC chips from GPI for a large-size order today is between $1.00 and $1.15 per chip, depending on quantity and spot complexity (and hot-stamps have a lower base price than inlays). Worst case for small orders and complex spots is around 1.30 per chip. Those prices do not take into account art fees, hot-stamp dies, packing, or shipping, which combined generally add another 15c-20c per chip to the total cost. Oversize 43mm IHC chips with complex spots are well under $2/chip, even including all the miscellaneous added costs. And the Blue Chip and Gemaco clay chip brands from GPI are much cheaper.

And all are well below CPC current prices, although it's really almost comparing apples to oranges. But yes, relatively speaking when compared to other clay chips, CPC chips are more expensive. But on the other hand, you ~can~ actually buy them.

 

[saleen121212]

Read on.

You are absolutely correct.

Typical base price for Paulson brand RHC or THC chips from GPI for a large-size order today is between $1.00 and $1.15 per chip, depending on quantity and spot complexity (and hot-stamps have a lower base price than inlays). Worst case for small orders and complex spots is around 1.30 per chip. Those prices do not take into account art fees, hot-stamp dies, packing, or shipping, which combined generally add another 15c-20c per chip to the total cost. Oversize 43mm IHC chips with complex spots are well under $2/chip, even including all the miscellaneous added costs. And the Blue Chip and Gemaco clay chip brands from GPI are much cheaper.

And all are well below CPC current prices, although it's really almost comparing apples to oranges. But yes, relatively speaking when compared to other clay chips, CPC chips are more expensive. But on the other hand, you ~can~ actually buy them.

I'd be so feckin broke if I could buy new custom Paulson's for 1.25 per. Sign me up for 5x 1000 chip sets please.

 

[saleen121212]

Hell I'd probably order insane amounts of cpc at those prices for any spots. I can only buy so many chips at 3 to 6 dollars per (non custom mint thc) on my budget without selling previously bought chips.

 

[lherron]

Why are they so expensive? They're the only game in town.

 

[Trihonda]

Also, volume = cheaper to make... CPC doesn’t have the system in place (guessing) to produce chips as cheaply.

 

[Perthmike]

Why are they so expensive? They're the only game in town.

I wouldn’t say that at all. It’s a very labour intensive process and I would imagine the margins are much smaller than you might expect.

As trihonda says, cpc aren’t a large company. The product is completely customisable and made in-house on a small scale.

I love my cpcs and I’m very grateful that we have cpc as an option. I just put in an add-on for another 230 chips as well.

 

[andy699669]

Also, volume = cheaper to make... CPC doesn’t have the system in place (guessing) to produce chips as cheaply.

Read on.

You are absolutely correct.

Typical base price for Paulson brand RHC or THC chips from GPI for a large-size order today is between $1.00 and $1.15 per chip, depending on quantity and spot complexity (and hot-stamps have a lower base price than inlays). Worst case for small orders and complex spots is around 1.30 per chip. Those prices do not take into account art fees, hot-stamp dies, packing, or shipping, which combined generally add another 15c-20c per chip to the total cost. Oversize 43mm IHC chips with complex spots are well under $2/chip, even including all the miscellaneous added costs. And the Blue Chip and Gemaco clay chip brands from GPI are much cheaper.

And all are well below CPC current prices, although it's really almost comparing apples to oranges. But yes, relatively speaking when compared to other clay chips, CPC chips are more expensive. But on the other hand, you ~can~ actually buy them.

Not to mention, CPC have 15(!) molds available with varying number of cups each. The more cups and lower the reject rate, the cheaper the chips are. From the best sellers A-Crest and HHR, all the way to the sought-after DSQ, SCROWN & LCROWN.

 

[WedgeRock]

I wish pcf was able to order the star chips from Paulson in the same quantity casinos do for 1.25 per chip

What do you think would happen if GPI knew what those chips were selling for here...

 

[saleen121212]

What do you think would happen if GPI knew what those chips were selling for here...

They should start a pcf only account full of 12 dollar chips?

 

[Coyote]

I wonder if a dedicated fantasy chip retail business, not a manufacturer (eg Key West), could do a re-order

 

[Quicksilver-75]

I think it's asinine to compare CPC to GPI. It's like comparing a lemonade stand to a coca-cola factory. If GPI offered to run small lots for individuals I think you'de find their prices would far exceed most of CPC's levels. And if you consider that fact against the knowledge that their process is largely automated the cost valuation (IMO) drops substantially.
Lord knows that CPC isn't cheap. But in my mind what CPC offers, the way it is offered and the price at which it is offered I liken to a handmade car like a Pagani. Whereas I see Paulson chips more akin to a top of the line BMW. Both great cars but one has been made at a greater cost at just about every facet.
I'm just super thankful that David decided to take a risk and purchase ASM. Nobody has benefitted more than our community.

 

[Lemonzest]

What do you think would happen if GPI knew what those chips were selling for here...

I heard from GPI that they left the home market specifically because lack of demand.

 

[WedgeRock]

No doubt. When they are used to casino sized orders, a few 1000 custom orders here and there seems hard to justify.

I don't recall the days of Paulson stores and the ability to order custom hotstamps. But the home line of Paulsons (IMO) are uninmaginative. If they offered full customizations, even on a limited mold or with color/edgespot requiring approval, I think they'd sell a few chips.

And 100% echo the thoughts about CPC and the service they offer to this community

 

[andy699669]

They were like: Oh, blyat this.

 

[MaxB]

DG Yellow ftw. And yes, if you are interested in making a custom set that you can keep the rest of your life, CPCs are definitely worth it.

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This is still one of my all time favorite custom CPC chip sets. Not only do I like the design of the labels, but the colors and spot patterns are next to perfect (I also have one displayed in one of my wall cases with other great custom CPC chips) (y) :thumbsup:

 

[BGinGA]

I wonder if a dedicated fantasy chip retail business, not a manufacturer (eg Key West), could do a re-order

Nope, or Apache would be all over it. They've shut him down several times.

 

[Coyote]

Nope, or Apache would be all over it. They've shut him down several times.

Well, I 'd keep knocking from time to time You never know...

 

[Anthony Martino]

I'm still looking forward to the day I can put together my custom set:

 

[allforcharity]

We should change the title of this thread to "CPC - worth it!"

 

[abby99]

We should change the title of this thread to "CPC - Definitely worth it!"

FYP

 

[detroitdad]

I'm still looking forward to the day I can put together my custom set:

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hurry up, I want samples

 

[Cyo]

Beautiful poker chips are a joy to play with. If you're thinking about resale value, you're not really looking at them properly. Good poker chips should add to the enjoyment of playing poker. Yes, they are tools, but they should enhance the experience.

 

[viet rounder]

Honest question. Can you even purchase custom Paulson if you were willing to dish out 100k?

 

[Perthmike]

Honest question. Can you even purchase custom Paulson if you were willing to dish out 100k?

depends. Are they for use at land or sea?

 

[PlaidDragon]

Honest question. Can you even purchase custom Paulson if you were willing to dish out 100k?

When I get a spare 100k I’ll let you know.

 

[viet rounder]

I have a few sets made by ASM (now CPC) and they are the current best available to the home market. Whether they are worth the price really depends on how deep your pocket is. I compare it to a bespoke suit. Anything done the traditional way and hand-made to your need will cost thousands. You are essentially paying for art and craftsmanship.

If my math is correct it seems that CPCs chip average more than $2-3 a piece.

I was mocking up a new set I had designed and realized that this project would cost me over $6380 ($8463 CAD) for 2000 chips.

Jockey Mold
Level 4 x 1400 chips @ $2.62 = $3668
Level 11 x 600 chips @ $4.52 = $2712

= $6380 USD ($3.19 per chip)

This doesn't include design fees, shipping, or tax. I might have to delay this purchase for later this year.

 

[PlaidDragon]

but CPCs are for life.

This is one of the more profound statements regarding these chips.

I've toyed with the idea of changing the colors on one of the denoms of my current set. I thought briefly, I could sell the existing ones to offset the cost but changed my mind in the end given the thought of parting with any of them is nearly abhorrent.

 

[Lemonzest]

This is one of the more profound statements regarding these chips.

I've toyed with the idea of changing the colors on one of the denoms of my current set. I thought briefly, I could sell the existing ones to offset the cost but changed my mind in the end given the thought of parting with any of them is nearly abhorrent.

It is pretty common for ladies to get chinaware as a wedding gift and then collect that same set of china for a lifetime. Often these sets can be passed down from generation to generation. I think china is silly (the dishes not the country) but the same idea applies. I can get behind the idea of making a custom set that my kids would play with down the road.

Imagine how cool it would be to inherit a custom set of chips from your pops and still play with them after he passed away. To me that would be pretty damn cool.

 

[stafil]

If I had a choice between brand new stock Paulsons and stock CPC at the same price, I would go for Paulsons.

Same for custom Paulson and custom CPC.

Since I don’t have these options, CPC is the absolute best I can get at the moment.

So, yeah, it’s worth it.

 

[Rhodeman77]

It is pretty common for ladies to get chinaware as a wedding gift and then collect that same set of china for a lifetime. Often these sets can be passed down from generation to generation. I think china is silly (the dishes not the country) but the same idea applies. I can get behind the idea of making a custom set that my kids would play with down the road.

Imagine how cool it would be to inherit a custom set of chips from your pops and still play with them after he passed away. To me that would be pretty damn cool.

My kids love playing with my chips already. I plan on teaching them all how to play and hope they have the same love for gaming that I do. And if they do they will each get a set of chips from me.