Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (10 Viewers)

[drdr]

I must be a poker chip nit. I don’t think I’ve ever owned a set with 1,000 chips.

All non chip nits at some stage had not owned a 1,000 piece set

 

[BPTDirector]

I only have one chip set with less than 1000 chips and I’m still trying to add to it. Lol.

 

[BPTDirector]

No, I was laughing because it actually made me laugh. That was my first experience with controversy here and it happened before I arrived. I just remember reading some comments and somebody flipped out on somebody else (whose name may or may not rhyme with shmainman shmail) and I had to start doing searches to figure out what the heck people were so upset about.

Yeah, he was a main target before the other one surfaced who bought everything up.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

No, I was laughing because it actually made me laugh. That was my first experience with controversy here and it happened before I arrived. I just remember reading some comments and somebody flipped out on somebody else (whose name may or may not rhyme with shmainman shmail) and I had to start doing searches to figure out what the heck people were so upset about.

I don't remember this one. Way before my time. Scrub Donkey was the viral thread around the time I joined.

Do I really want to go down another rabbit hole? Is it worth it?

 

[Poker Zombie]

Do you think that one person affected the price of the cocaine giraffes?

Yes - the cocaine giraffes were the gold Camaros in the metaphor. If there were more of them, their prices would be more stabilized.

As I see it, the cocaine giraffes are a nice custom set. One guy owns all of them. I cannot be envious. I saw them at a meetup, they were nice. I never thought "If I had more money I'd be making offers". They really aren't worth more than $3-$5 a chip in my opinion.

 

[krafticus]

.... They really aren't worth more than $3-$5 a chip in my opinion.

I think most chips (80%-90%) aren't worth more than that. That's me though, and I understand that my wants/needs don't match most of the people on this forum. I am totally ok with that too.

 

[elemeno]

No, I was laughing because it actually made me laugh. That was my first experience with controversy here and it happened before I arrived. I just remember reading some comments and somebody flipped out on somebody else (whose name may or may not rhyme with shmainman shmail) and I had to start doing searches to figure out what the heck people were so upset about.

What the heck were they upset about?

 

[Ben8257]

I think most chips (80%-90%) aren't worth more than that. That's me though, and I understand that my wants/needs don't match most of the people on this forum. I am totally ok with that too.

I remember getting lectured by a member for paying $6 a chip for Artichoke Joe's saying I was driving the price up for the few collectors still looking. But I decided early on that the Artichokes were my grail and never selling set. I was late to the chipping game and didn't want to step on others toes... one member had most of the $5s but I realized I could build a set with the $4s that no body wanted.

Perhaps the most valuable lesson to learn from the veterans on this forum is to NEVER share what you are building until it is built... well how do you do that if you are looking for help from the community? Well that's a double edged sword... but inevitably if you post what you are hunting all of a sudden 5 more people will be hunting them too! I got (80) of my $4 chips at $8 each... the next (40) were $12 each. Then it went insane! Now you can't touch one on eBay for less than $40! I need 4 more to hit 180 and haven't won a single chip in over a year.

Even the THC $1s started going to $40 each and I am.just trying to finish a mixed rack of RHC/THC to be playable... now at 98 chips I can't get the last two just to finish the damn rack!

With shipping and tax that was over $30 for an RHC chip!!

After making my own dealer buttons, cut cards, custom Plaques for $20s and $100s... should ai just give up when this close to my finish line? Or dig deeper? No this set wasn't started this year... this one is 6 years in the making... ride out the storm they say, it will come back around! But the prices just keep getting worse and worse and I trully have no idea who is buying them up at these prices.

Talk about taking the "fun" out of the hunt... maybe 3 or 4 chips get listed a year I am interested in... and almost never win a single one.

4 more hot stamped quarters (happy to trade 2 inlaid for one HS in good condition) offering $15 per chip

2 more RHC $1 offering $30 per chip I guess??

4 more $4 THCs Offering $40 per chip

And they can all go crazy, have at it... 10 more chips and I will never look up Artichoke Joe's again!

Many folks say with the recession and F**ked economy that things are resetting... well not Artichoke poker chips, they seem to be quickly catching the price of gold per ounce! Lol

Anyone remember that idiot Ben paying $15 to $20 each for these

Try to get one for $40 now! Lol

Or these

They used to sit in the classifieds for $6 to $8 a chip woth no Takers. Now they go for $40 each... but I do remember giving Krish a hard time for paying $15 a chip for a barrel of these (now who was the idiot?)

Find the "good stuff" folks, they aren't making any more of it and it is proving to be recession proof, invest wisely... it's ok to pay $5 a chip... for the right chip!

NAGB chips are bright and inviting, but realize the mark up is already high on those before you ever touch them. Someone else might be working on sneaking another one through right now that will hurt the value of your expensive investment. If you are building a forever set then who cares what happens with the roller coaster of chip prices. But if youbare someone keeping a close eye on the values or only plan on temporary ownership whilst trying to figure out what your forever set is... then I would steer clear of the flashing lights known as "NAGB" chips.

All that being said it is no easy task finding the "good stuff" anymore... those that have it only want other good stuff in trade. Once you sell it the good stuff is gone, yup you probably turned a good profit, but back to square one.

For the record Krish is NOT the only one with a black cave full of chips, many of us are guilty of owning more than we need. Just the way it is now. A blue collar worker wants a Shelby GT500... it can be done... you just have to want it bad enough!

Happy Chipping Folks
Ben

 

[upNdown]

What the heck were they upset about?

I don’t even remember. Something about the buying and selling of these chips. The community went nuts over them. Excellent to near mint Paulson no molds in playable quantities. They say Beyoncé may have handled them.
Personally I don’t get it.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I don’t even remember. Something about the buying and selling of these chips. The community went nuts over them. Excellent to near mint Paulson no molds in playable quantities. They say Beyoncé may have handled them.
Personally I don’t get it.
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[elemeno]

I don’t even remember. Something about the buying and selling of these chips. The community went nuts over them. Excellent to near mint Paulson no molds in playable quantities. They say Beyoncé may have handled them.
Personally I don’t get it.
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Those chips are somehow worse than the Wynn’s two-tone live chips.

 

[krafticus]

I don’t even remember. Something about the buying and selling of these chips. The community went nuts over them. Excellent to near mint Paulson no molds in playable quantities. They say Beyoncé may have handled them.
Personally I don’t get it.
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There was a big debate about whether these are casino chips or fantasy chips due to the fact that they were used in a charity game and such. blah blah blah...

I like the chips sans the inlays. would I spend more than $2/chip .. nope

 

[allforcharity]

Even the regular Wynn chips are pretty boring. But you can always find something worse on the Strip.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Not sure if this one has been addressed before, but I hate it when sellers edit their post to remove the asking price after they sell their chips.

Why do they do this?

 

[elemeno]

Not sure if this one has been addressed before, but I hate it when sellers edit their post to remove the asking price after they sell their chips.

Why do they do this?

That and PRICE REDUCED $1000 $995.

And a peeve as a newbie - when people post sales ads sans chip face pics.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

That and PRICE REDUCED $1000 $995.

I assume you are saying that you prefer when they do it this way, correct?

This is what I've done in a sale. Show original price. Then strikethrough and add updated price reductions. Then eventually strikethrough and put SOLD.

And a peeve as a newbie - when people post sales ads sans chip face pics.

Yup. Pretty sure this has been posted here before. Maybe even by me! LOL.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I assume you are saying that you prefer when they do it this way, correct?

This is what I've done in a sale. Show original price. Then strikethrough and add updated price reductions. Then eventually strikethrough and put SOLD.


Yup. Pretty sure this has been posted here before. Maybe even by me! LOL.

I think he's referring to the PRICE DROP, followed by a 0.5% reduction in price. Like $5 (or even $50 on a $10,000 set) is what was going to push a buyer over the fence.

 

[grantc54]

I think he's referring to the PRICE DROP, followed by a 0.5% reduction in price. Like $5 (or even $50 on a $10,000 set) is what was going to push a buyer over the fence.

Juat to sweeten rhe deal make sure to add 'fire sale', 'blow out', 'bargain', 'summer sale' to the title and message so that people know the $5 off the inflated price the original buyer paid because they HAD to have them and of course now reflects the new market price.

I really wish people would do their research and think about if they really need the chips before buying them. Snap buy catch and releasers are part of the issue as to why chip prices have gone up IMHO. I love seeing these chips sit for months in the classifieds now, well deserved.

 

[Sisu41]

Even the regular Wynn chips are pretty boring. But you can always find something worse on the Strip.

I agree, they're only one color highlights until $5k, but if I had one of those chips, the design of the chip wouldn't matter.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Juat to sweeten rhe deal make sure to add 'fire sale', 'blow out', 'bargain', 'summer sale' to the title and message so that people know the $5 off the inflated price the original buyer paid because they HAD to have them and of course now reflects the new market price.

I really wish people would do their research and think about if they really need the chips before buying them. Snap buy catch and releasers are part of the issue as to why chip prices have gone up IMHO. I love seeing these chips sit for months in the classifieds now, well deserved.

They thought they could use them but went in a different direction, but paid $25 in shipping and now youll pay that + your shipping

 

[grantc54]

They thought they could use them but went in a different direction, but paid $25 in shipping and now youll pay that + your shipping

They don't play tournaments (or cash, take your pick), so they never used the tournament (or cash) set they bought. Their car/truck/motorcycle/washer/dryer/fridge/roof/nail broke so they are now selling at market price.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

They don't play tournaments (or cash, take your pick), so they never used the tournament (or cash) set they bought. Their car/truck/motorcycle/washer/dryer/fridge/roof/nail broke so they are now selling at market price.

Very unfortunate, oh well, might as well make some cash!

 

[BPTDirector]

How about secondary PCA $1 going for $149 when they originally sold for $49.95? Or Pharoah’s I bought Back in the day for .89 selling for $5 each? No one mentions those.

 

[jr8719]

Controversial chipping opinion:

One person cannot, and did not, affect chip pricing. If I had a dozen sport gold Camaros, and somebody offered 1.5 million each for them, the price of sport gold Camaros may enjoy a modest temporary bump in pricing, but they will settle back to the market demand. They certainly will not affect the price of red Mustangs.

I think it's easy to villainize one man who had the resources, but his timing of purchases matched the post-recession recovery, where people had much more money for discretionary spending. The net result was an increase in chip prices, table prices, and basically all discretionary products. A few years later, we had people with so much still left in their caches that many quit/did not return to work (I still don't know how that works, but it was a thing).

Eventually, inflation corrected everything. People were looking for someone to blame for the increase of the price of gas and eggs. You can blame a President or Windwalker, but the true culprit is a little more complex. So complex that it is easier to blame one guy than it is to attend an economics lecture.

It always cracks me up when people talk about the prices Krish paid for chips.

Because when other clearly-wealthy PCFers happily pay $15 a chip for NAGB chips – not to mention double the price Krish initially paid for certain chips – nobody bats an eyelid.

 

[BPTDirector]

Or do Tigers really cost $9 each to get originally??

 

[FestiveKnight]

Very unfortunate, oh well, might as well make some cash!

I think some of this behavior (including when I do it) is encouraged by the nature of the thread format in the classifieds. Because it’s not just a listing of an item for sale there’s tropes of the other fluff content people put in listings. Some to draw attention, some just to provide context for a sale, maybe with the hope that it will encourage buyers not to wonder why you don’t want the chips any more but why they should.

I remain curious and optimistic about the next version of the classifieds that has been previously referenced. There’s enough volume and enough money changing hands for a more formal less frills marketplace

 

[DMack]

Juat to sweeten rhe deal make sure to add 'fire sale', 'blow out', 'bargain', 'summer sale' to the title and message so that people know the $5 off the inflated price the original buyer paid because they HAD to have them and of course now reflects the new market price.

I really wish people would do their research and think about if they really need the chips before buying them. Snap buy catch and releasers are part of the issue as to why chip prices have gone up IMHO. I love seeing these chips sit for months in the classifieds now, well deserved.

I’m just disappointed the new ad for those relabeled Paulson Classics didn’t come with the “Best Price!” tag!!

 

[grantc54]

I’m just disappointed the new ad for those relabeled Paulson Classics didn’t come with the “Best Price!” tag!!

Lets be honest with ourselves, there are some laughable asks from longtime members who seem to have come back asking for the top prices not seen for a while. Very wishful thinking!

Also, thread fluffers should be forced to buy the chips they're fluffing if it can be shown that the asking price is absurd. Why are they still here? Maybe because the asking price is crazy.

And well I'm at it, each bump in a sales add should require a mandatory 2% price drop.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Lets be honest with ourselves, there are some laughable asks from longtime members who seem to have come back asking for the top prices not seen for a while. Very wishful thinking!

Also, thread fluffers should be forced to buy the chips they're fluffing if it can be shown that the asking price is absurd. Why are they still here? Maybe because the asking price is crazy.

And well I'm at it, each bump in a sales add should require a mandatory 2% price drop.

Some good points. I'm with you on the fluffers, as long as the price really is absurd. I'm guilty myself of posting positive comments in sale adds, but only if the price is reasonable. Especially some of the really nice custom CPC sets that sell for 30-50% below replacement cost. It's sad to me that some of these sell so cheaply. It's part of the reason why I haven't rushed to make a custom set myself. CPC chips are every bit as nice as non-leaded Paulsons, and yet they often go for fire sale prices. Wish there was a stronger market for them. Or maybe the flip side is that they are some of the best deals out there in clay chips?

 

[Poker Zombie]

Some good points. I'm with you on the fluffers, as long as the price really is absurd. I'm guilty myself of posting positive comments in sale adds, but only if the price is reasonable. Especially some of the really nice custom CPC sets that sell for 30-50% below replacement cost. It's sad to me that some of these sell so cheaply. It's part of the reason why I haven't rushed to make a custom set myself. CPC chips are every bit as nice as non-leaded Paulsons, and yet they often go for fire sale prices. Wish there was a stronger market for them. Or maybe the flip side is that they are some of the best deals out there in clay chips?

While I LOVE my custom CPC set, if I were to go just by feel, a Paulson set (preferably leaded) would be the only way to go. Also, Most Paulsons come with a backstory. That (to me) makes them far more valuable than any CPC set. Finally, any CPC spot pattern can be replicated. If you are considering relabeling, the ceiling on a used CPC set price is somewhere below that of a new set (until the CPC mold wears out).