Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (9 Viewers)

[upNdown]

Bridge shuffles = amateur hour

I agree, but who wants to play with pros?

 

[Old State]

I don’t know that I’ve used poker size anywhere.
Never knew this to be controversial, just figured folks had a preference.

This I’m guessing would be actually controversial. I can’t imagine a game where all the cards are mucked, gathered, shuffled, and ready to deal in 15 seconds.

I can’t imagine a single game, home or casino, where someone would bridge shuffle and not be told to not do that again.

First…poker sized cards are preferred by many on this forum

Second …if the dealer is managing the cards correctly they are collecting cards as they are mucked. At the end you are only collecting a few hands. Once collected a with a little practice one can do a riffle, riffle, strip, riffle easily in 15 seconds. In a typical home game the second deck is almost never ready to be immediately dealt because people are scooping the pot, talking, or not paying attention. it’s something that works better in theory than practice. That my experience…but this isn’t the thread to debate it

Third …players don’t deal at a casino and at home games TONS of people bridge the cards when shuffling….like over half of the people I ever played with over the last 25 years

 

[BarrieJ3]

First…poker sized cards are preferred by many on this forum

Second …if the dealer is managing the cards correctly they are collecting cards as they are mucked. At the end you are only collecting a few hands. Once collected a with a little practice one can do a riffle, riffle, strip, riffle easily in 15 seconds. In a typical home game the second deck is almost never ready to be immediately dealt because people are scooping the pot, talking, or not paying attention. it’s something that works better in theory than practice

Third players don’t deal at a casino and at home games TONS of people bridge the cards when shuffling….like over half of the people I ever played with over the last 25 years

Cool story bro. Like I said, didn't think it was controversial, people just have a preference on poker or bridge.

So if you have a dedicated dealer, with practice, after they collect the final cards, they can shuffle in 15 seconds. 100% agree.

Thanks, I understand players don't deal at a casino. Was simply stating that I doubt it's a controversial opinion as I've never seen a bridge shuffle at a casino or home game. Now that might be overstated or hyperbole, but it is 100% true that if/where it has happened, it was immediately discontinued. Totally understand that this is my personal subjective experience, but I don't remotely see this being "controversial" - I'd guess at least 9/10 PCFers whole heartedly agree with the statement.

 

[Old State]

Cool story bro. Like I said, didn't think it was controversial, people just have a preference on poker or bridge.

So if you have a dedicated dealer, with practice, after they collect the final cards, they can shuffle in 15 seconds. 100% agree.

Thanks, I understand players don't deal at a casino. Was simply stating that I doubt it's a controversial opinion as I've never seen a bridge shuffle at a casino or home game. Now that might be overstated or hyperbole, but it is 100% true that if/where it has happened, it was immediately discontinued. Totally understand that this is my personal subjective experience, but I don't remotely see this being "controversial" - I'd guess at least 9/10 PCFers whole heartedly agree with the statement.

You just here to troll? You wouldn’t see a dealer bridge the cards at a casino …because they are profession dealers that don’t shuffle like that…or they have an automatic shuffler

 

[BarrieJ3]

You just here to troll? You wouldn’t see a dealer bridge the cards at a casino …because they are profession dealers that don’t shuffle like that…or they have an automatic shuffler

Correct - a professional would never shuffle like that.

Neither would 99% of the people here.

And you stated that bridge shuffle = amateur hour as a controversial opinion.

I’ll move on. You either were trolling with your original post or regarding “controversial”:

 

[davislane]

Send me a few, and we'll put them next to the chickens. You may be right....I may be crazy.

chickens arent nagbs. so statement stands.... should be clarified as red $5s. those yellow fives are pretty nice

 

[Old State]

Correct - a professional would never shuffle like that.

Neither would 99% of the people here.

And you stated that bridge shuffle = amateur hour as a controversial opinion.

I’ll move on. You either were trolling with your original post or regarding “controversial”:

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[Eriks]

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Probably if you recheck the title of the thread

 

[bergs]

Can’t believe I’m just seeing this.

Poker size cards are far inferior to bridge sized

Yes.

Fantasy chip themes are lame

Yes, yes!

Two decks are just clutter. Learn to shuffle properly and it only takes 15-20 seconds

Ummm…

The least amount of chips in play the better

Ut-oh…

Only custom chips are worth it…unless Paulson Noirs were readily available

Straddles should be banned

YOU MUST BE 300 YEARS OLD!

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Cool story bro. Like I said, didn't think it was controversial, people just have a preference on poker or bridge.

So if you have a dedicated dealer, with practice, after they collect the final cards, they can shuffle in 15 seconds. 100% agree.

Thanks, I understand players don't deal at a casino. Was simply stating that I doubt it's a controversial opinion as I've never seen a bridge shuffle at a casino or home game. Now that might be overstated or hyperbole, but it is 100% true that if/where it has happened, it was immediately discontinued. Totally understand that this is my personal subjective experience, but I don't remotely see this being "controversial" - I'd guess at least 9/10 PCFers whole heartedly agree with the statement.

Serious question. I actually have played with people that use the bridge shuffle. Never thought anything about it other than knowing it was not the correct "dealer shuffle" method. When you say it was immediately discontinued, do you mean you made fun of them until they stopped? Or that there is a legitimate reason to forbid shuffling in that manner?

 

[ekricket]

Serious question. I actually have played with people that use the bridge shuffle. Never thought anything about it other than knowing it was not the correct "dealer shuffle" method. When you say it was immediately discontinued, do you mean you made fun of them until they stopped? Or that there is a legitimate reason to forbid shuffling in that manner?

Imho any shuffle where you use your thumbs to riffle the cards can potentially damage the cards from overpressure.

 

[ktran]

Serious question. I actually have played with people that use the bridge shuffle. Never thought anything about it other than knowing it was not the correct "dealer shuffle" method. When you say it was immediately discontinued, do you mean you made fun of them until they stopped? Or that there is a legitimate reason to forbid shuffling in that manner?

Corner riffle doesn't expose any cards. Bridge riffle does and allows potential card tracking from someone.

 

[fishsaybloop]

Imho any shuffle where you use your thumbs to riffle the cards can potentially damage the cards from overpressure.

Don’t all riffles need thumbs? Unless it’s a faro shuffle which tends to scuff edges.

 

[ktran]

Imho any shuffle where you use your thumbs to riffle the cards can potentially damage the cards from overpressure.

Also what cards are you using? Even with a lot of pressure from a corner riffle, I don't see them being damaged. You might have someone who is marking cards outside of shuffling. If anything bridge shuffle wears cards out more than corner shuffling.

 

[ekricket]

Also what cards are you using? Even with a lot of pressure from a corner riffle, I don't see them being damaged. You might have someone who is marking cards outside of shuffling. If anything bridge shuffle wears cards out more than corner shuffling.

I agree. Both methods you describe are not ideal. I wouldn’t recommend either of them, they are both bad for the cards.

 

[upNdown]

Correct - a professional would never shuffle like that.

Neither would 99% of the people here.

You’re just way overestimating the shuffling skills of PCFers. I bet something like 50% of them would use a bridge shuffle. Remember, there’s a real chunk of people here don’t don’t even play cards, and probably another chunk who rarely play. Those people can’t do a proper poker dealer’s shuffle. But then for the rest of the people here - the ones who actually play - there’s probably a huge chunk of them who don’t even care - they’ve been playing cards forever and they never gave it a second thought.
The only reason I learned a proper shuffle was because I was going to a meet-up and I wanted to look like I knew what I was doing. But I bet if you could peek into all the home games here, you’d see a whole lot of bridge shuffles and worse.

 

[Ben8257]

You’re just way overestimating the shuffling skills of PCFers. I bet something like 50% of them would use a bridge shuffle. Remember, there’s a real chunk of people here don’t don’t even play cards, and probably another chunk who rarely play. Those people can’t do a proper poker dealer’s shuffle. But then for the rest of the people here - the ones who actually play - there’s probably a huge chunk of them who don’t even care - they’ve been playing cards forever and they never gave it a second thought.
The only reason I learned a proper shuffle was because I was going to a meet-up and I wanted to look like I knew what I was doing. But I bet if you could peek into all the home games here, you’d see a whole lot of bridge shuffles and worse.

I was still bridge shuffling before I met the shuffle Master @krafticus who thought me the error in my ways! I would say 50 plus % of home players I kmow still bridge shuffle and even a portion still do at meet ups. Doesn't bother me at all. Those that ask I am happy to show a proper shuffle.

In a home game I Don't care, at a meet up... especially a first meet up for some members, they are typically timid and on edge... I want them to have a wonderful experience... not grill them about shuffling methods. Maybe a few hours in if things are going well ans everyone's laughing... sure I may bring it up, but otherwise it's fine.

Seriously who here didn't feel like a king when they were 10 - 12 years old and mastered the Bridge shuffle! Lol

 

[joeyshin]

I still bridge shuffle. Mostly out of habit. But I define amateur hour so I’m probably proving your point. Lol

 

[Lil Tuna]

WHO CARES! JUST DEAL THE F…ING CARDS!

 

[Lil Tuna]

Oh I almost forgot………..

REAL CARD PLAYERS PREFER POKER SIZE!

REAL CHIPPERS BUILD SETS!

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[Old State]

It’s “improper”, or whatever you want to call it, because the “bridging” part is a pointless motion. You aren’t actually shuffling the cards.

 

[Ben8257]

Well... this one definitely "hit the nail on the head" of controversial

The least amount of chips in play the better

I doubt in our nearly 10k member pool that you find 3 people that would agree.

I say this loud and proud every single day 8/8/6/6 SUCKS!!!

but by your statement I believe you are trying to say that in a t10k tourney you would actually prefer... 4/4/1/4/1! Go ahead and run that one time and report back on how the game went please! That is indeed the minimum for a T25 based game.

Or are you one of those "too cool for tournament" guys... for cash the equivalent would be.
(4) $.25/ (4) $1/ (4) $5/ (3) $25..

Go ahead and run either of those and let us know how awesome your game was!

Tried, tested and true! The perfect starting stack is 12/12/5/6 for a 10k tourney.

12/17/16 is the perfect starting stack for a $.25/$.50 game.

 

[upNdown]

the “bridging” part is a pointless motion.

Pointless? The bridging part brings me significant amounts of joy. I don’t do it at the poker table, but I do everywhere else.

 

[Lil Tuna]

Well... this one definitely "hit the nail on the head" of controversial

I doubt in our nearly 10k member pool that you find 3 people that would agree.

I say this loud and proud every single day 8/8/6/6 SUCKS!!!

but by your statement I believe you are trying to say that in a t10k tourney you would actually prefer... 4/4/1/4/1! Go ahead and run that one time and report back on how the game went please! That is indeed the minimum for a T25 based game.

Or are you one of those "too cool for tournament" guys... for cash the equivalent would be.
(4) $.25/ (4) $1/ (4) $5/ (3) $25..

Go ahead and run either of those and let us know how awesome your game was!

Tried, tested and true! The perfect starting stack is 12/12/5/6 for a 10k tourney.

12/17/16 is the perfect starting stack for a $.25/$.50 game.

 

[krafticus]

Oh I almost forgot………..

Hold’em PLAYERS PREFER POKER SIZE!

REAL CHIPPERS BUILD SETS!

CLASS DISMISSED!
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FYP. ;-)

 

[krafticus]

It’s “improper”, or whatever you want to call it, because the “bridging” part is a pointless motion. You aren’t actually shuffling the cards.

The point of the bridge shuffle is to bend the paper cards back into the original form. If you only shuffle paper cards one way, they quickly warp and bend. Bridge shuffling them reverses the shuffle bend, prolonging the life of the cards. This is for games in which you aren’t peeking at corners and such, and bending them in ways they shouldn’t be bent.

 

[Irish]

I say this loud and proud every single day 8/8/6/6 SUCKS!!!

Amen brother.

Tried, tested and true! The perfect starting stack is 12/12/5/6 for a BIG 10k tourney.

FYP. Up to like 15ish players, I like even bigger stacks - 16/16/6/5, starts you off with 2+ barrels.

 

[CrazyEddie]

Fantasy chip themes are lame

What do you mean by this? Could you provide examples?

 

[upNdown]

The point of the bridge shuffle is to bend the paper cards back into the original form. If you only shuffle paper cards one way, they quickly warp and bend. Bridge shuffling them reverses the shuffle bend, prolonging the life of the cards. This is for games in which you aren’t peeking at corners and such, and bending them in ways they shouldn’t be bent.

Also it’s fun

 

[krafticus]

Also it’s fun

Oh, I agree. I’ve been a card player since I was young. I can shuffle lots of ways. Bridging is always fun and cool to see.