Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (9 Viewers)

Enjoy them while you can. Time flies in the blink of an eye.
This is not a controversial opinion.
The days are long. The years are short. Chips are overpriced.
And the fam, lol. My wife and kids are staying in a hotel down by you tonight while we have poker here. The struggle is real.
Wtf. You put em up at the Rosewood or Ritz?
 
It has to do with chip availability and desirability (at least for me). I like the colors and spots on high denom chips more. My players tend to play low stakes so I’m never going to get those HSI $500s in play otherwise. Murdering and relabeling isn’t instantaneous nor free. Gear’s queue is probably north of 4 months now. I have 10 racks of JC sec $25 that I use as quarters just because they were cheap and mint. Not worth murdering or relabeling.

My Garden City set plays at 100x because I used to play there in person and those high denoms were always out of reach for me at that time.

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Murdering those leaded IHC would be worse than playing them at 1/100 face imo.

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My 1000x set is just a passion project. Blaze 1ks used as $1 yup.

Who doesn’t want to feel like you’re playing on High Stakes Poker?

Having said all that I only use 100x and 1000x multipliers. The 5x or 20x stuff you’re describing probably just reflects chip denom availability.
This guy gets it.
 
This guy gets it.
I guess me and @TheRealTeddyKGB are also #teamblackdollar quite often.

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To be fair I am also a member of #teamexcessivebluedollar

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I guess the monetary multiplier was a good one for this thread.... I'll just say I completely disagree that it's a bad thing. Sure getting actual values is cool and gives us an excuse for more chips but it is completely irrelevant to game play. All you should be worried about is BBs and pot odds, not the monetary value.
 
Not sure if this is controversial, but @BarrieJ3s post in another thread reminded me how much I dislike having denominated chips with "half the value" or 1/10th the value or whatever. I feel like I see it a lot, so maybe others don't mind, but for me it would be absolutely insane to spend several thousand dollars on a set and not even get the denominations right.

Non denoms I also dislike a lot, but it would better than playing with 100s being worth 20 or whatever the hell people do!
Totally agree. This is largely what drove me straight to custom, getting denoms to match cash value.

As much as I like some of the real casino sets etc, I don't have the energy to undertake a relabel project and I refuse to use any kind of multiplier. I'd sooner use them as a tourney set where it doesn't matter anyway.
 
Kinda hard to beat Monte Carlos when it comes to plastic .

Everybody knows it, nobody says it.

(My controversial take)
Yep, would take them over Tina’s chips 10 times out of 10. Only issue I’ve ever had with them were some of the inlay stickers popping off, but a little superglue takes care of that.
 
Believing your rack of leaded $5 Paulson chips are somehow more valuable than the ceramic knock-offs coming out of China, when in reality, chips from either rack are only worth their face value when playing cards and cashing out.
 
Believing your rack of leaded $5 Paulson chips are somehow more valuable than the ceramic knock-offs coming out of China, when in reality, chips from either rack are only worth their face value when playing cards and cashing out.

Isn’t this a similar argument to BTC vs DOGE?
 
Believing your rack of leaded $5 Paulson chips are somehow more valuable than the ceramic knock-offs coming out of China, when in reality, chips from either rack are only worth their face value when playing cards and cashing out.
There are so many things wrong with this argument. Is this an argument? Or just some sort of riddle?
 
A barrel of Tiger fives is going to cost a player $100. No more, no less than what it costs for a barrel of card mold fives.
 
The chip sets we buy which cost quite a bit of money are for our own enjoyment. If others enjoy it as well, great, but that's not really the purpose.
So true. The quicker you realize this the better. Play with them and enjoy them and don’t try to sell others on how cool they are. Ultimately, more players will come around to appreciating them.
 
So true. The quicker you realize this the better. Play with them and enjoy them and don’t try to sell others on how cool they are. Ultimately, more players will come around to appreciating them.
Very true. Those who play in my games and then go to others come back and tell me how they appreciate the chips I put in play. I don't expect all of them to come around to this appreciation, but a handful definitely see it.
 
The chip sets we buy which cost quite a bit of money are for our own enjoyment. If others enjoy it as well, great, but that's not really the purpose.
So true. The quicker you realize this the better. Play with them and enjoy them and don’t try to sell others on how cool they are. Ultimately, more players will come around to appreciating them.

I agree with both of these statements, although I do get a greater sense of enjoyment after hearing from players how much they like the chips.
 
I'm new here and Cards Mold chips interest me most. After browsing around the forum, I've noticed some strange stuff. Here are my opinions, and based on the reactions and responses in the other thread I created, they're probably controversial. Let's give it a shot anyway.

1) Why does this community allow a member to try to blatantly rip others off? From what I gather, Cards Molds cost $0.39 each (including artwork fees) + reshipping costs, which I estimate to be $10-$30 for most sets. Yet someone is listing a Cards Mold set for $0.73 per chip + shipping. Aren't Cards Molds chips a commodity? Am I missing something?

2) From the same Cards Mold Group Buy link above - I don't really get the artwork fees. Are all fees the same for each piece of "art?" Though the Hot Dog Sandwich chips aren't my cup of tea, I'd understand paying an artwork fee for something unique and 100% self-made. But,

a) Am I paying the same artwork fee for the Aria's and Bellagio chips? Is it that tough to clone something that already exists?

b) Are Aria/Bellagio okay with these reproductions? I'd bet the answer is a hard no. Do they get a cut of the artwork fees? Again, I bet no. Then why am I paying the "artist" for these clear violations of copyright law? The most common argument I've seen on this forum is that the clones might be kosher because the chips are not made for resale at a profit. I don't think that's correct since the "artists" are clearly profiting.
 
Tiger inlays pfugly.
I hesitate to call them ugly (beauty and beholder eyes, something like that), but I will say that contrary to seemingly everyone else on PCF, the Tiger chips never spoke to me. Even before pricing was announced, I knew I wasn't interested in getting a set.

Of course, I have objectively bad taste, so there's that.
 
I'm new here and Cards Mold chips interest me most. After browsing around the forum, I've noticed some strange stuff. Here are my opinions, and based on the reactions and responses in the other thread I created, they're probably controversial. Let's give it a shot anyway.

1) Why does this community allow a member to try to blatantly rip others off? From what I gather, Cards Molds cost $0.39 each (including artwork fees) + reshipping costs, which I estimate to be $10-$30 for most sets. Yet someone is listing a Cards Mold set for $0.73 per chip + shipping. Aren't Cards Molds chips a commodity? Am I missing something?

2) From the same Cards Mold Group Buy link above - I don't really get the artwork fees. Are all fees the same for each piece of "art?" Though the Hot Dog Sandwich chips aren't my cup of tea, I'd understand paying an artwork fee for something unique and 100% self-made. But,

a) Am I paying the same artwork fee for the Aria's and Bellagio chips? Is it that tough to clone something that already exists?

b) Are Aria/Bellagio okay with these reproductions? I'd bet the answer is a hard no. Do they get a cut of the artwork fees? Again, I bet no. Then why am I paying the "artist" for these clear violations of copyright law? The most common argument I've seen on this forum is that the clones might be kosher because the chips are not made for resale at a profit. I don't think that's correct since the "artists" are clearly profiting.
1. It’s notable that the one you mentioned hasn’t sold yet, and there’s a lack of “glws”-style replies. As for allowing each other to try to rip others off, I think there’s a fine line between legitimate differences of opinion regarding fair compensation and actual attempts to rip someone off, and, as such, most take a “mind my own business” approach and don’t get involved.

2a. I somewhat understand compensating someone for actually making the art files and figuring out the edge alignment, even if the art isn’t original. I don’t think anyone here would have much ground to complain if you made your own files and didn’t pay anyone.

2b. Agree with you here, although it’s worth noting that some of the casino “tributes” are not exact copies, while others do attempt to be exact. (And, as before, the fee is more for the work creating the files than for the art itself, in my opinion.) There might be some legal difference there, but overall, I don’t think youre out of line, and certainly not alone, if you aren’t comfortable with them.
 

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