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Have Chinese cards mold replica sets gone too far? (6 Viewers)

Johnblue said:
TinaHC is a bad idea. Probably can’t stop that train, but it will probably spell the end of any new THC chips within a couple years from GPI.
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Ooh. I think they said it was actually going to be a copy of the RHC mold? If the Chinese hat and cane mold kills the RHC mold, maybe I’m not so opposed to it . . .
 
opengun said:
Where's my popcorn

meanwhile a $1,000 defunct casino chip will be sold for $19.99 per chip. Who can afford to put together a tournament set for that price? All this talk about counterfeit is ridiculous. The definition of counterfeit is to create an exact replica with the intention to deceive or defraud for profit. Nobody is turning a profit with the Card Mold or China Clays. All the elitists here can continue to gobble up all the unobtainium while the rest of us will make better financial decisions.
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Nice! Love this.
 
Johnblue said:
TinaHC is a bad idea. Probably can’t stop that train, but it will probably spell the end of any new THC chips within a couple years from GPI.
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I'm pretty sure it's an RHC from Tina.
Also pardon my ignorance but aren't casinos already doing that. Look at the bikes new chips and most new clay chips are kind of meh at the casinos.
 
upNdown said:
Ooh. I think they said it was actually going to be a copy of the RHC mold? If the Chinese hat and cane mold kills the RHC mold, maybe I’m not so opposed to it . . .
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Wouldn't it be something if someone from the chipper community made the chip that finally pushed GPI to drop low security clay chips and go full plastic.
 
bergs said:
I don’t think the people ordering and buying these care what the “community” will “accept”. There isn’t a controlling board of chip people governing over these sort of things.
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Did you ever run across a player named Kenny Sunshine, in NH? He was a seabrook reg.
 
Perthmike said:
I kinda agree too, except for the part about the likes.

Clout chasing ruined pcf far more than Chinese chips ever will.
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Word.

I don't think PCF is ruined, but yeah, agree 100% with the sentiment.


I'm so damn jaded with people that I just assume every classified ad selling a $1,000 rack of chips starting with a three paragraph explanation of why they are being sold is from someone who bought them purely for the likes (lol) when they post pictures of them.

I feel the same way about people that are hyper tuned into the chip "market" and constantly worry about "value" of collections. Couldn't imagine spending all that energy (grinding it out on that leather ass) to either make $100 or not lose $100 on something as beautiful as poker chips.
 
Why would Paulson pivot to commoditized ceramic or plastic chips that don’t wear out and need replacement (read: reordering) as quickly as clay? It makes no sense at all these are a threat to Paulson.

Maybe the casinos have a problem with it where replicas have been made. Maybe they go back to Paulson and ask for different clay chips with a different design. But I don’t think Paulson would really care. It’s an entirely different material. It’s like printing a paper copy of a Paulson THC and Paulson being concerned that it causes an issue with their IP.
 
FWIW this is just as bad, if not worse in my mind. https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/matsui-43-mm-sands-tournament-set.95611/unread
Because they’re such high quality chips, if you dumped a stack in front of me, I wouldn’t know if they were real chips from that casino, or not. At least with the cards molds, an educated chipper would immediately know that no Vegas casino is using chips on that crap mold. But these - who knows?
 
upNdown said:
FWIW this is just as bad, if not worse in my mind. https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/matsui-43-mm-sands-tournament-set.95611/unread
Because they’re such high quality chips, if you dumped a stack in front of me, I wouldn’t know if they were real chips from that casino, or not. At least with the cards molds, an educated chipper would immediately know that no Vegas casino is using chips on that crap mold. But these - who knows?
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And again, by my memory, this sort of thing just wasn’t being done a few years ago. Those Borgata tributes? Yeah they might have been too close for comfort, but at least they said “Boardwalk.”
I guess you can insert grumpy old man yelling at clouds here.
 
RiverKingCali said:
China clays/card molds are the Mary Jane of chips...the gateway chips to heroin (Paulsons)
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My man spittin facts…

I was chillin on that dirt weed……

Then someone spiked my hit, and now I need that pure clay hitter!!!!!!!!!! That good good gucci disk playa o_O:ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Hot stamped for authenticity of course… :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
upNdown said:
FWIW this is just as bad, if not worse in my mind. https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/matsui-43-mm-sands-tournament-set.95611/unread
Because they’re such high quality chips, if you dumped a stack in front of me, I wouldn’t know if they were real chips from that casino, or not. At least with the cards molds, an educated chipper would immediately know that no Vegas casino is using chips on that crap mold. But these - who knows?
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I think you make a fair point. Both for those chips and probably also the cards molds. The chippers coming after us in 20 years time might have trouble deciding the real from the fakes along the way, especially with zero mention on the inlay that any of these are simply commemorative or tribute chips.

For us it feels easy now, since we know about them all, but keeping track of all of this when entering the hobby in 20-30 years, who knows who of the old timers is still around to tell the stories of previous GBs. Maybe these new runs of chips should be registered as fakes somewhere, like on the chipguide, to help the future generations of the hobby.
 
Marius L said:
I think you make a fair point. Both for those chips and probably also the cards molds. The chippers coming after us in 20 years time might have trouble deciding the real from the fakes along the way, especially with zero mention on the inlay that any of these are simply commemorative or tribute chips.

For us it feels easy now, since we know about them all, but keeping track of all of this when entering the hobby in 20-30 years, who knows who of the old timers is still around to tell the stories of previous GBs. Maybe these new runs of chips should be registered as fakes somewhere, like on the chipguide, to help the future generations of the hobby.
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Borland fakes are still being sold as the real deal every day.
But everybody knows how to identify them, said nobody ever.
 
ekricket said:
Borland fakes are still being sold as the real deal every day.
But everybody knows how to identify them, said nobody ever.
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The thing is that even specialized shops sell these without mentionning they are fake.
 
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Kid_Eastwood said:
The thing is that even specialized shops sell these without mentionning they are fake.
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But cards mold are different, nothing like this could ever happen with these, because we all know better. That’s the difference, we didn’t know Borland. If we knew him then the whole world would be able to recognize his forgery’s.
 
ekricket said:
Borland fakes are still being sold as the real deal every day.
But everybody knows how to identify them, said nobody ever.
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That’s a good point. And as far as I’ve seen those Borland fakes have always been reviled by the chipping community, not embraced as a nice alternative.
 

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