State of the Current Union/Chip Buying Advice (5 Viewers)

Plaques or you're an amateur
Agreed brother!
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Always better with Plaques!
 
Or they never happened.

I've searched his post history for the following terms: flip, flips, flipper, flipping, ban, bans, banned, banning.

Several posts talked about banning members from future sales for other reasons like collusion, shopping cart manipulation, and attempting to skirt percentage requirements.

But Jim has NEVER said that he would ban members for flipping, and I stand by this until someone proves me wrong.
@RainmanTrail Seriously, man, your best response is a laughing emoji?

You work in a data field, and facts are facts. How is this laughable? Maybe it would have been more accurate if I'd said, "I've never seen Jim say that he would ban members for flipping..." But I think we both know that's what I meant.

Surely if Jim said "I'm going to ban flippers" many times, then it should be easy to prove. So show me one post where he says this, and I'll admit I was wrong. Hell, show me a post where he says this, and I'll admit I was wrong and donate $50 to the charity of your choice.

I'm not going to play semantic games. As long as the post comes from TCR and the spirit of the post is "I am going to ban flippers from TCR sales" then you win. But it cannot be the stuff that I've already mentioned, where he talks about banning members for other reasons like collusion, shopping cart manipulation, or attempting to violate the rules of a TCR sale.

This is a freeroll for your favorite charity. Fifty bucks if you can put your money where your mouth is.

Otherwise, please stop spreading baseless rumors about a well-regarded PCF vendor.
 
@RainmanTrail Seriously, man, your best response is a laughing emoji?

You work in a data field, and facts are facts. How is this laughable? Maybe it would have been more accurate if I'd said, "I've never seen Jim say that he would ban members for flipping..." But I think we both know that's what I meant.

Surely if Jim said "I'm going to ban flippers" many times, then it should be easy to prove. So show me one post where he says this, and I'll admit I was wrong. Hell, show me a post where he says this, and I'll admit I was wrong and donate $50 to the charity of your choice.

I'm not going to play semantic games. As long as the post comes from TCR and the spirit of the post is "I am going to ban flippers from TCR sales" then you win. But it cannot be the stuff that I've already mentioned, where he talks about banning members for other reasons like collusion, shopping cart manipulation, or attempting to violate the rules of a TCR sale.

This is a freeroll for your favorite charity. Fifty bucks if you can put your money where your mouth is.

Otherwise, please stop spreading baseless rumors about a well-regarded PCF vendor.

I'm not your Googling assistant.

I'm laughing because you always do this. In seemingly every thread, over and over and over. Every time I say something or make a claim about anything, or say I read x,y, or z, you come in with "prove it! Where's the link, or it didn't happen!" If I succumbed to your demands, it would be a full-time job. I don't care if you believe me or not. I don't care if you believe any of the numerous others here who also testified to the fact that he said he would ban flippers in the past. If you can't find it, that's not my problem. But running around calling us all liars isn't going to score you any points. Either keep searching, or give up. I don't care. But he said it and several of us remember it.

My recollection was that it was with respect to specific chips or in response to some angry mobs coming after people who got their hands on coveted racks from various sales in the past. Like if someone bought up all the T5k chips from a TCR sale or some chips that were in short supply but high demand and they tried to hold them hostage in order to flip them for a profit that he would ban them. This was back before he started doing the percentage breakdowns. It very well might have been more than 5 years ago, in which case it sounds like we don't have a record of those sales anymore. I don't think he ever said anything along the lines of, "if I see anyone selling chips for $1 that they bought from me for 59¢, I'm going to ban them!" He's not stupid. He knows where his business comes from and what allows him to sell through everything. He said it in reference to coveted chips and people buying those for the sole purpose of reselling them for a profit.
 
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Why would Jim as a vendor care about what happens to his chips after he’s sold them for market price?

I don’t recall him ever saying this.
 
Psst!! That's because I am the idiot paying "most" of those insane prices
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I am normally the guy yelling "don't chase the flashing lights! Don't buy a new car off the lot of go after the latest and greatest chip sets!" It's just a bad investment because the "new" will wear off, we have all seen it time and time again.

At one point I was offered $600 for a rack of IG primary $5s behind the scenes, I bought 600 and still have my 600. But last week two racks in fantastic shaped sat for over 24 hours (or close to it) for $200 a rack... all those people that paid $450 plus... ouch man! But there will always be those that simply have to own the latest and greatest... then as soon as the next "group buy" comes up they dump the others for what they can get!

For me I won that "golden ticket" everyone Saud "congratulations" but for what??? I really didn't win anything other than a chance to cut the line, but I am still paying the same prices for the chips! Could I have sold them in all the hype right after the sale like many others did? Sure, and I did sell my sec snappers for a profit as I really didn't like them as a frac option. The rest I still own and have expanded on... why would I pay flippers prices? It's quite simple... I absolutely believe that the IG series are amongst the best RHCs ever produced! I want to get mine fully playable before these fall into their forever homes and I am left with another multi year project looking for chips that aren’t moving anymore.
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When I look at these chips I ask myself... "do you really think you will still love these in 20 years?" My answer is a resounding YES!!

So for someone like me... I don't mind paying $30 a chip for secondary $1ks... because I simply don't think anything will ever beat them or be more beautiful! You only have so much time before the flippers move their stock and these chips fall into their forever homes! Do I think they are worth $30 a chip? NO but others do, so if I want them that bad... if they are forever chips sure I could sit back and say "I'm not paying more than $20 a chip!" Never add a single chip, next seller asks $40... someone pays it... I can still be the idiot saying "I'm not paying more than $20" but again they are falling into their forever homes... even if the market crashes and burns, I don't think anyone is going to come off of these for less than $30, so I pay these crazy prices NOT as an investment like so many others... but because I know they are my forever chips!

Let it crash and burn, let values drop to $1 a chip... I'm still buying! Lol
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Those that say "Indiana Grand suck!" Go on with your hate! This is freaking beautiful, and honestly I don't care others think...

LOVE YOUR CHIPS!! That is really all that matters, if your fear what is happening to the chip market and the values of your sets... do you really love them or are they simply an investment? My tourney set is going to cost about $15 - $16k total in the end. It is worth that to me to give me peace... this is as close as I will ever get to owning something "on par" with the BTP tournament sets, @Chippy McChiperson already owns a massive set of those in our local group and I get to play them a couple times a year. This is my "contribution" of quality chips to the already amazing chip collectors we have in our MD/PA/VA/DC area. We are trully blessed to have the opportunity to play with some of the greatest chips ever made on a regular basis in our immediate area!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions...
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But it simply doesn't get better than that in my eyes! The "Monalisa" of modern poker chips! In person these will take your breath away!
I love the Ben books!! I can always feel the purity of your passion for chips in them.

But just to be sure we’re on the same page, I only wrote my posts to point out that if chips are going for less than “market value,” someone is going to profit. It can either be TCR at $7.50 to $8.50, or others at 2.4x or 4x TCR prices.
 
I recall (900 years ago) he put limits on purchases and on orders per address to quell that activity, not a ban on flips. How would he even enforce a flip ban?

Well - it would take community help, but it would be something like selling over XX% within a certain period of time is considered flipping. All orders require a PCF account of a certain level, etc. It's more admin/hassle than it'd be worth, and obviously there are plenty of ways to get around it.

It'd be a feel good effort with little bite.
 
I have a special skill for remembering absolutely useless facts. And I definitely recall the threat of banning flippers.

Also don't care either way. But that's my recollection.

Side note. Big fan of TCR.
 
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I have a special skill for remembering absolutely useless facts. And I definitely recall the threat of banning flippers.

Also don't care either way. But that's my recollection.

Side note. Big fan of TCR.
It was the clevelands and it was a direct response to previous shenanigans by the most well known flipper on this site.
 
I have a special skill for remembering absolutely useless facts. And I definitely recall the threat of banning flippers.

Also don't care either way. But that's my recollection.

Side note. Big fan of TCR.
+1 to everything here
 
I have a special skill for remembering absolutely useless facts. And I definitely recall the threat of banning flippers.

Also don't care either way. But that's my recollection.

Side note. Big fan of TCR.
Me too!!

1) Blue Whales ejaculate 200 gallons of semen
2) pigs can orgasam for 30 minutes
3) camels can go 15 days without water
4) the entire intercorse session for chickens is 2 seconds and sperm can live inside a hen for up to two weeks!

Jim @ TCR has always been more than fair and goes out of his way to help everyone he can and I 100% appreciate all of his efforts and do not care one bit about how much he profits off of his efforts to bring amazing chips to the community!

Fluppers gonna flip and I ain't innocent! Sure I try to sell at cost especially to friends... but when I am paying flippers prices for recent TCR sales, I'm not going to sell my extras or what I don't need at cost when others are not selling to me at cost!

Also fact! Some members absolutely get "presale" purchase rights... some of those people actually keep the chips but many sell behind the scenes and never post a single picture or mention publically that they own the chips and would never bring these facts up before the actual sale happens. Wanna find out who? Well simply post a wanted ad right after the sale offering 2 - 3 times what the chips just sold for and magically you will have PMs appear out of thin air... then you will know who! Sure it kind of sucks... but again they are Jim's chips to do with as he pleases... I think it would be awesome for him to "audit" these presale friends a year later and see who still has what with a picture with a date on it, so he could see who is making the big $$$ off of his generosity... but hey, the world ain't a perfect place!

Back to awesome random facts that DON'T have anything to do with this topic!

5) What is the most sexually active mammal?
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And here the whole time people though the answer was Dolphins... now Primates engaging in "oral sex" ... that's fascinating!
 
Me too!!

1) Blue Whales ejaculate 200 gallons of semen
2) pigs can orgasam for 30 minutes
3) camels can go 15 days without water
4) the entire intercorse session for chickens is 2 seconds and sperm can live inside a hen for up to two weeks!

Jim @ TCR has always been more than fair and goes out of his way to help everyone he can and I 100% appreciate all of his efforts and do not care one bit about how much he profits off of his efforts to bring amazing chips to the community!

Fluppers gonna flip and I ain't innocent! Sure I try to sell at cost especially to friends... but when I am paying flippers prices for recent TCR sales, I'm not going to sell my extras or what I don't need at cost when others are not selling to me at cost!

Also fact! Some members absolutely get "presale" purchase rights... some of those people actually keep the chips but many sell behind the scenes and never post a single picture or mention publically that they own the chips and would never bring these facts up before the actual sale happens. Wanna find out who? Well simply post a wanted ad right after the sale offering 2 - 3 times what the chips just sold for and magically you will have PMs appear out of thin air... then you will know who! Sure it kind of sucks... but again they are Jim's chips to do with as he pleases... I think it would be awesome for him to "audit" these presale friends a year later and see who still has what with a picture with a date on it, so he could see who is making the big $$$ off of his generosity... but hey, the world ain't a perfect place!

Back to awesome random facts that DON'T have anything to do with this topic!

5) What is the most sexually active mammal?
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And here the whole time people though the answer was Dolphins... now Primates engaging in "oral sex" ... that's fascinating!
Okay so you're saying PCF just needs to take a page out of the Bonobo's handbook and do some deep kissing and have some orgies to solve all of our problems. I mean it's worth a shot. Get over here @Josh Kifer
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"Unlike any other mammal or primate...."

Wait -- humans don't have recreational sex? I've been doing it wrong....
One of my former neighbors worked at a us gov agency where you have to get “lifestyle polygraphs” periodically. One of the questions they ask is “whether you have ever sex with an animal”. He responded yes, getting a VERY curious look from the examiner. He then qualified “ well, my wife is technically a mammal”

He was special.

The best pet of those polys is they don’t care what you do they just don’t want employees to get black mailed. So as long as you tell them about your deviancy they don’t really care. At least that’s what I hear.
 
Me too!!

1) Blue Whales ejaculate 200 gallons of semen
2) pigs can orgasam for 30 minutes
3) camels can go 15 days without water
4) the entire intercorse session for chickens is 2 seconds and sperm can live inside a hen for up to two weeks!

Jim @ TCR has always been more than fair and goes out of his way to help everyone he can and I 100% appreciate all of his efforts and do not care one bit about how much he profits off of his efforts to bring amazing chips to the community!

Fluppers gonna flip and I ain't innocent! Sure I try to sell at cost especially to friends... but when I am paying flippers prices for recent TCR sales, I'm not going to sell my extras or what I don't need at cost when others are not selling to me at cost!

Also fact! Some members absolutely get "presale" purchase rights... some of those people actually keep the chips but many sell behind the scenes and never post a single picture or mention publically that they own the chips and would never bring these facts up before the actual sale happens. Wanna find out who? Well simply post a wanted ad right after the sale offering 2 - 3 times what the chips just sold for and magically you will have PMs appear out of thin air... then you will know who! Sure it kind of sucks... but again they are Jim's chips to do with as he pleases... I think it would be awesome for him to "audit" these presale friends a year later and see who still has what with a picture with a date on it, so he could see who is making the big $$$ off of his generosity... but hey, the world ain't a perfect place!

Back to awesome random facts that DON'T have anything to do with this topic!

5) What is the most sexually active mammal?
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And here the whole time people though the answer was Dolphins... now Primates engaging in "oral sex" ... that's fascinating!
Ok I said useless facts, not sexual animal facts lol
 
"Unlike any other mammal or primate...."

Wait -- humans don't have recreational sex? I've been doing it wrong....
That is a fantastic point Dave... didn't even catch that myself...

BTW thank you gentlemen for understanding sometimes we all just need a good laugh! It gets stuffy around here at times!

@Highli99 I was asked that exact question as well! Luckily for me... I passed and answered that one with a laugh and resounding "NO"... but those guys have zero sense of humor. The next question was just gross... as it was on the same subject but in refrence to my mother... yuck! Maybe they just threw that one in to get me to stop giggling about the beasteality question... but either way I was done laughing after the next one and very ready for the "test" to be over with!

Seriously though... could you imagine if you had to answer YES to that question... they will respond with "elaborate please"

"Well... you see my grandad had this old dairy cow named Betsy... one of the guys at school had this crazy idea that before prom we should try gain a bit of "experience" before we are stuck in a real life situation, so...." remember these people are starring you in the face and will not so much as break a smirk for anything... I guess if I had to answer that one and was guilty I would just get up and walk out and say "I failed, Sorry but this meeting is dismissed!" Lmao
 
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