I am 95% at least as well. Pretty sure he dud say that mulitple times.
State of the Current Union/Chip Buying Advice (1 Viewer)
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Or they never happened.
I've searched his post history for the following terms: flip, flips, flipper, flipping, ban, bans, banned, banning.
Several posts talked about banning members from future sales for other reasons like collusion, shopping cart manipulation, and attempting to skirt percentage requirements.
But Jim has NEVER said that he would ban members for flipping, and I stand by this until someone proves me wrong.
Can’t argue with that, except to say that there are at least several chiproom sales that happened on this forum that no longer seem to exist. So we don’t have a complete record.
ChipEnvy
Full House
Have you searched his old sales threads?
I would think twice before posting what I think you are posting.
I can 100% understand if Jim is taking care of customers that buy every sale…but if it is with the intent of flipping, I don’t think Jim would like that and cut him off.
Jim is 100% against flipping but it’s impossible to follow-up on…so he let it go
THAT is a big difference in selling chips to the same flippers every sale….for all we know some members use code/scripting to get first in line every time…
I know what I'm posting. I don't participate in any of those sales, so I'm not worried if I get banned from all future sales.
It would be really funny if I did, though.
Which sales were deleted?
I've searched the entire site.
I mean, are you so sure about what you’re posting?
Off the top of my head, horseshoe Cleveland for sure. Did he have Cincinnati, or was that all the other guy? I think there were others
Maybe folks are confusing it with Jim saying he would ban anyone who uses multiple emails and PP accounts to get around the Chip limits (which happened on one of his sales last year).
I don’t care about that, I consider Jim a friend and don’t like his reputation being slandered.
The rules came AFTER members found a way to cheat…
bergs
Royal Flush
On flippers: “hey free market system free to sell at whatever price the market desires market market free free get it yayyy”
On actual vendors: “profit grabbing money hungry ankle biters is that they are…”
WTAF?!
Still have to meet the member that ever got shorted by Jim.
And yes, pretty sure…there is a big difference between collaborating with flippers and not having a good way to follow up on them...
If nobody is using scripting to finesse the sales I’d be absolutely amazed. We know there are members that use webscrapers to get the best stuff online. Why would you expect it doesn’t happen in Jim’s sales? There’s way way way to much money to be made. In my opinion what’s really needed is competition. It’s pretty crazy to me that people are paying $2.25/chip for $1’s that were literally live less than a year ago (IG prim $1’s).
I do seem to recall the flipper debacle similarly to you though. He only talked about banning memebers for multi accounting and similar ways of getting out of the limits. If I’m not mistaken around 2019ish when the JD sale happened @Tommy or @TheChipRoom had said they caught a few people multi accounting a sale who were subsequently banned from future sale.
It does seem that it’s always the same folks with the good chips though. But it could be that they also seem to be the folks with the most liquid capital. If I had a like $30k to invest you’d be well off maxing out limits and sitting for a minute until the hype dies down and the sets all get locked down.
ChipEnvy
Full House
Seeing as his oldest sale thread is 5 years old.... A ton of them.
Everything from the blue wall. You can get some of it from the way back machine though
I have nothing bad to say about Jim.
If it were true that he has some friends he takes care of and sells to first, and if some of those friends were flippers (with or without his knowledge) - to me, that’s not slandering Jim. They’re his chips, he’s free to do what he wants.
I don’t know him personally. But if here in 2022, he was as opposed to flipping as you believe - I’d be surprised.
This is my strong suspicion.
Yeah, looks like everything from 2013 to Nov 2016 is gone or archived. I vaguely recall a purge of older DMs and other stuff around that time due to hosting space limitations, maybe?
Well if we're going back that far, I hope your Wayback Machine search skills are on point.
You really don’t even have to have capital to max out your limits. The last few sales I’ve literally had to max out 2,000 chip purchase just to secure 2 barrels of $5k in order to hit the % limit for a tourney set….so every sale I and probably most that want a tourney set participate in are either 1) forced to buy 2,000 chips to get 40 (5% of total x 2,000 = 40) $5k chips or 2) buy less and be forced to purchase larger denoms with smaller max % limits from those selling at likely a significant premium. I think Jim has put plenty thought into how he runs his sales and the percentages he calculates.
But this hobby has some extreme drama. I watch a lot of reality TV when I’m home. The trash on MTV, Bravo basically what ever your wife has sentenced you to after work I actually watch. This hobby takes the drama cake no contest.
I know. On the eve of every one of these sales, I always light a candle for the poor folks who will be forced to buy 2,000 chips.
Fair enough. Walked into that one. But choices are buy the lot and sell cash Chips, or pay flippers 2x for tourney denoms I’m short on. I’ll take the former. Likely you have more friends here than I do willing to sell you what you need at cost. I’ve run into only a few when it comes to TCR sales.No, it’s not often anybody sells anything to me at cost, friend or otherwise. I need to network better.
Anyway, I think the way he does it with the percentages is probably the best way. At least for him, anyway. Probably the best other way to do it is to just sell everything in sets (which is kinda what the percentages do anyway.)
I suppose he could just skip the percentages, limit everybody to two barrels of $5ks, and jack the prices way up on them. But it seems like he just wants to sell all his chips quickly, and the percentages drive that.
RainmanTrail
Straight Flush
Very much not what I said.
I think TCR should try to maximize his profits whenever he sell his chips. I also believe he attempts to do just that.
My comment was regarding the fact that he complains about flippers. It had nothing to do with my thoughts about him.
43mm is sooo 2020! Shoving all-in with stacks and stacks of 48mm Fat Hats is where it's really at!
Plaques or you're an amateur
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