Lol, I love this. Shit drama all over with sellers flaking, PM buyers with better prices, etc. But FOR THE LOVE OF GOD don't thread crap.Just allow thread crapping about prices. That will get things in line.
Lol, I love this. Shit drama all over with sellers flaking, PM buyers with better prices, etc. But FOR THE LOVE OF GOD don't thread crap.Just allow thread crapping about prices. That will get things in line.
I think the issue is the DIBS system is not in the guidelines. Sellers have no requirement to use it.Up to a now it has worked, not perfect but it has functioned well. Unless a new system is introduced and agreed on, the existing system is in play. Whether you like it or not. When you sign up to use the forum you agree to the rules of the forum.
Now the forum you mentioned works a certain way, if someone went on it and said i dont like the rules and doing it my way. I am sure some turbulence would be had.
give it to me.Anytime you guys are ready for the next epic joke, let me know. Happy to provide.
the dibs system also helps the seller not get 100 emails of i will take them, first person saw add and said i will take them..not sure why that is so difficultI think the issue is the DIBS system is not in the guidelines. Sellers have no requirement to use it.
We’re just circling the shitter man.the dibs system also helps the seller not get 100 emails of i will take them, first person saw add and said i will take them..not sure why that is so difficult
Asshat clause goes into effect then.So, a member the seller has on their "ignore" list posts dibs...
It depends on the circumstances obviously, and whether both parties involved were acting in good faith. But it sure as shit isn't a "deal" just because someone posts a classified listing and someone else responds with "Dibs".Just curious Travis, when is a deal a deal in your mind?
If I agree to sell a rack of chips to someone for $500, and then someone else PMs me offering $600 for the rack, am I free to just back out of the first deal (this has happened to me multiple times)?
At some point it boils down to a person’s word. I stand by mine, even if I am leaving money on the table.
We all know this isn't what happened here.
I was going to say this exact same thing. I feel strongly that the "dibs" system that is in place here is the cause of the vast majority of the problems. All this is doing is pissing people off for various reasons and is completely unnecessary.
There is more animosity here and more arguments here than I have seem on all other forums that I have been involved with combined. This whole dibs thing is ridiculous and should be done away with immediately. No where else do you have the dibs system and no where else do you have all this bickering. I am quite active several other forums, but I will give one example: I am on WatchUSeek (WUS) which is a watch forum and most on there are talking about and buying and selling watches that sell for many multiples of what the biggest & most expensive sets sell for here. That community has 430,000 members which is roughly 43x the number of members that are here. I am quite certain that some members there are profiting far more from buying and selling expensive watches than anyone ever does here just because of the higher buy and sell prices. @ WUS there is no dibs system and I basically never see people bitchin about sales threads and people flipping or any of this BS that seems to be just about the only topic around here.
I understand that the dibs system came about to try and make things more fair by making sales more transparent and in the spirit or making things more fair and to try and prevent problems, but it just does the exact opposite. It puts all this toxic waste out in the public and is creating an unfriendly environment.
To who ever runs this place:
You want to encourage a more inviting environment and get rid of a lot of toxic posts and threads, GET RID OF DIBS immediately!
Oh, I forgot to mention this about WUS:
In the sales threads there the mods made the sales threads so that only the OP can post. This eliminates all thread crapping publicly. Lets be honest, just about the only thing that people publicly do in someone elses thread is either thread crapping or some meaningless post like "nice chips." There really is no need for people to be posting in the m2m sales threads. All of that stuff can be done via PM and then you eliminate all this toxicity
ready!You guys ready for another one? I mean the title is “What a joke” so gotta keep the train moving here.
Not saying it’s what happened here. I was more curious where you draw the line based on some of your prior posts. I recall something about an estate sale where the chips were underpriced and I thought you weighed in that nothing is final until money changes hands and the buyer takes physical possession of the chips.Same here. If I agree to sell someone a rack for $500, it's sold pending payment. I'm not selling it to someone else for more money later. But what does this have to do with anything? We all know this isn't what happened here.
What are you 15? you actually just replied in meme.. stay classy
You guys ready for another one? I mean the title is “What a joke” so gotta keep the train moving here.
Haha this is all so damn laughable to me. I guess it's because I don't play in the Classifieds much but that fact that we can't just put up a For Sale add with a price, sell it to whoever says "dibs" "mine" "I'll take it", ship money, ship chips and move on, is ridiculous to me. I guess I am just naïve.
what are you saying happened here mr "witch hunt"?Not saying it’s what happened here. I was more curious where you draw the line based on some of your prior posts. I recall something about an estate sale where the chips were underpriced and I thought you weighed in that nothing is final until money changes hands and the buyer takes physical possession of the chips.
"Tootsmagoots" drive by roasting peopleWhat are you 15? you actually just replied in meme.. stay classy
Man, you could save this whole place. Just a little pron when they arrive, and everyting is gonna be all right.Not saying it’s what happened here. I was more curious where you draw the line based on some of your prior posts. I recall something about an estate sale where the chips were underpriced and I thought you weighed in that nothing is final until money changes hands and the buyer takes physical possession of the chips.
I don’t have all the facts about what happened here. And I’m hardly on a witch hunt.what are you saying happened here mr "witch hunt"?
Every example you gave was the buyer (i.e. the person who called dibs) not necessarily following through on the conditions of the For Sale ad. Totally different from what actually happened.The problem is that there are just way too many valid reasons for the first "dibs" to not get the sale.
Examples:
- Mr. Dibs follows up his "dibs" with a PM saying "Hey, I'll take these. Can you do $250 instead of $300 though?"
- Mr. Dibs follows up via PM requesting, "I'll take the set of Mapes, do you ship to the Philippines?"
- Mr. Dibs follows up via PM saying, "Sweet, I've been waiting for these. Do you accept credit cards?"
- Mr. Dibs follows up via PM, "I'll take them. Can pay in trade. I've got some red starbursts for you!"
- Mr. Dibs posts "dibs" in the listing but it isn't seen by the seller because Mr. Dibs spams every thread he posts in, landing him on the seller's ignore list.
- Mr. Dibs has had some shady deals in the past and the seller doesn't want to sell to him as a result.
- Mr. Dibs is just generally an asshole to the seller and he just doesn't want to sell to him.
- There was a typo in the listing "$5 per barrel" instead of "$5 ea" (Some here would honestly try to argue that they have to sell at the $5 per barrel typo price).
and on and on...
The fact of the matter is, no deal is done until payment and terms are agreed upon privately via PM anyhow. Out of the more than 100,000 sales that have occurred here, every single one of them gets finalized via PM. There is no reason whatsoever for people to need to call "dibs" and have that be meaningful. It just causes way more problems than it avoids.
Thats hilarious. Never see that guy, didn't even read his name. Then I read you comment and thought, ha funny guy, DickCranium (one word). Then I thought that doesn't make sense, and eventually got to Dick Head (ooc). Not my proudest moment, but it's way funnier when it takes you a minute.It's fair to expect a higher standard from a user named Richard Cranium.
Thats hilarious. Never see that guy, didn't even read his name. Then I read you comment and thought, ha funny guy, DickCranium (one word). Then I thought that doesn't make sense, and eventually got to Dick Head (ooc). Not my proudest moment, but it's way funnier when it takes you a minute.