COVID-19 (Corona virous) and your home game? (7 Viewers)

According to the best information available to the CDC, no one has died from the Coronavirus in Washington County and more importantly, the two cases they identified have recovered.

What is the basis for your assertion that I am "increasing the risk for all parties involved?"
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Recently a homeless shelter in the us tested all the people there. Roughly 400 people. About 150 tests came back positive. NONE of those people showed any symptons.

An aircraft carrier out of guam tested everyone on board.
600 positive tests. 350 of which showed no symptoms.

Congratulations on being the next typhoid mary.
 
Recently a homeless shelter in the us tested all the people there. Roughly 400 people. About 150 tests came back positive. NONE of those people showed any symptons.

An aircraft carrier out of guam tested everyone on board.
600 positive tests. 350 of which showed no symptoms.

Congratulations on being the next typhoid mary.


Thanks Racer.
 
Here’s the story about the Boston homeless shelter.
https://www.boston25news.com/news/c...-homeless-shelter/Z253TFBO6RG4HCUAARBO4YWO64/

At this point there is simply not enough testing being done to know how many infected carriers there are. From what I understand about the US situation is that there is a lack of tests available period, so people not showing any symptoms are most likely not being tested at all.

Not having any recorded active positive cases DOES NOT equal no active positive cases. In fact, to think that is the case, is highly irresponsible.

Sure, it may not reach you. It may not hurt you. It may not hurt your friends or family. But if you can help the entire fucking world, is that really too much to ask?
 
@Mojo1312 you are basically using the same stupid justification as some anti vaxxers that say “I don’t need to immunize my kids because everyone else has been vaccinated and those diseases don’t exist anymore”. Yeah, thanks to the rest of society, these idiots are unfortunately proven correct.

Your town, county, state or anywhere that hasn’t been badly affected, can likely thank all the people adhering to the lock down and isolation rules. If everyone felt as “special” and entitled as your group, then this pandemic would be 100x worse. Why should the rest of us make sacrifices while you get to carryon as normal?

Your posts just seem so incredibly tone deaf to whats going on in the world today, and selfish.
 
@Mojo1312 you are basically using the same stupid justification as some anti vaxxers that say “I don’t need to immunize my kids because everyone else has been vaccinated and those diseases don’t exist anymore”. Yeah, thanks to the rest of society, these idiots are unfortunately proven correct.

Your town, county, state or anywhere that hasn’t been badly affected, can likely thank all the people adhering to the lock down and isolation rules. If everyone felt as “special” and entitled as your group, then this pandemic would be 100x worse. Why should the rest of us make sacrifices while you get to carryon as normal?

Your posts just seem so incredibly tone deaf to whats going on in the world today, and selfish.

Fair enough. Thank you for the thoughtful response.

I live in fly-over country.

You really need to familiarize yourself with our area before concluding that people adhering to isolation rules explains why we do not have a greater number of confirmed cases. I am sure that is one of many factors, such as low population density, not being a tourist destination and our isolation from areas that are shopping hubs. It is a 2 hour drive to the nearest shopping mall and a 4 hour drive to the nearest major airport. There is little reason for people who have means to move here during the pandemic.

Drugs are rampant and economic opportunities are thin. Google the census numbers for any town within an hours drive of where I live and you will find the population has declined by 25 to 30 percent over the last twenty years. Schools have closed, businesses have folded, properties are not being maintained, etc. People joke we are the other State of Maine.

Washington County is 2.5 times the size of Rhode island with 2.5% the population. Digest that.

Speaking honestly, we are weeks into this. We should have a number of identified cases at this point in the game. Now to the question, am I being flippant or a total asshole by not taking this serious? In fact, I am taking this virus serious. Excluding the poker games and spike in business appointments this last week, I don't leave home. I went 8 days without leaving my driveway other than to go for a walk earlier this month. I buy my groceries when the stores are slow and practice social distancing when conducting business.

Rest assure, 6, 8 or 10 cases would impact my behavior. There is zero, but I am suffering through the pandemic by and large the same as everyone else. My business numbers month to date are down two-thirds.

Granted, the stress is greater for those living in areas where people have died from the virus, but does that mean I should completely cut myself off from all social contact. That there is no difference between Queens, New York and where I live? That I should refrain from playing cards with a small group of five to six people?

Can you be honest with yourself, as I have, before answering those questions?
 
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Fair enough. Thank you for the thoughtful response.

I live in fly-over country.

You really need to familiarize yourself with our area before concluding that people adhering to isolation rules explains why we do not have a greater number of confirmed cases. I am sure that is one of many factors, such as low population density, not being a tourist destination and our isolation from areas that are shopping hubs. It is a 2 hour drive to the nearest shopping mall and a 4 hour drive to the nearest major airport. There is little reason for people who have means to move here during the pandemic.

Drugs are rampant and economic opportunities are thin. Google the census numbers for any town within an hours drive of where I live and you will find the population has declined by 25 to 30 percent over the last twenty years. Schools have closed, businesses have folded, properties are not being maintained, etc. People joke we are the other State of Maine.

Washington County is 2.5 times the size of Rhode island with 2.5% the population. Digest that.

Speaking honestly, we are weeks into this. We should have a number of identified cases at this point in the game. Now to the question, am I being flippant or a total asshole by not taking this serious? In fact, I am taking this virus serious. Excluding the poker games and spike in business appointments this last week, I don't leave home. I went 8 days without leaving my driveway other than to go for a walk earlier this month. I buy my groceries when the stores are slow and practice social distancing when conducting business.

Rest assure, 6, 8 or 10 cases would impact my behavior. There is zero, but I am suffering through the pandemic by and large the same as everyone else. My business numbers month to date are down two-thirds.

Granted, the stress is greater for those living in areas where people have died from the virus, but does that mean I should completely cut myself off from all social contact. That there is no difference between Queens, New York and where I live? That I should refrain from playing cards with a small group of five to six people?

Can you be honest with yourself, as I have, before answering those questions?

A well reasoned response, thank you.

You are right that I don’t know enough about where you live and population density etc., and yes, that should probably factor into my judgement. I live in the “burbs” just outside of a fairly large city, Vancouver BC, and probably forget sometimes that not everyone is living in similar circumstances. But that goes to my “tone deaf” comment, as seeing posts of people getting together for a poker game just seems totally offside to others in more populated areas that wouldn’t even think about it.

Take care and stay safe!
 
I think the point everyone is getting at is that confirmed cases don't really mean anything. We all know that everywhere is under-testing. You could have 50 cases in your town and not know about it until a week from now.
 
So how long are people supposed to be locked down? And what happens when cases inevitably go up once the lockdown ends? Everyone locked down now is going to be exposed at some point, correct?

I also live far away from cities, and haven’t missed a day of work yet. Granted I’m not playing live games or going to church, but I’m still out there every day. Sometimes I even forget about the virus, those are the good times.
 
We are still playing my weekly game as well, but we have very strong controls in place and limit close contacts to a max of 10 per week and keep logs of these contacts. 6 of my 10 are my poker game. The restrictions here are being followed, and they are understandably different that those in downtown New York. Would you also find me to be insensitive and stupid for not complying with rules from someone else's situation? This is a challenging time, to be sure. But let's keep it classy, stay friendly. If you disagree with people posting about COVID and their Home Game, this may be the wrong thread to be reading.

My own home game is no more a reflection of my disregard for deaths in Washington state than it is a reflection of my disregard for the state of the blue whales. They are unrelated. That is all. We should be able to have a dialogue and disagree without getting upset. And the thread is COVID and your home game, not let's bash the guy having a home game. I assume he's taking as many precautions as he can, not that he's immoral.

PS @Mojo1312 Love the chips!
 
Thanks Bean

They exceeded my expectations. The colors are nice and bright and the price was right.

I think ceramics are the way to go for hard surfaces.
 
Home game gone for me! :(

To keep in line with the thread, I ran a game at the end of February I think.

I'm so bummed. I feel like I may never get it back. At least I've got a butt load of chips coming in soon. After that high wears off, what to do with all the chips?:tdown:

I do still go to work, but that's pretty much it. There is inherently risk in going to work, but my employer must run.

I've been guilty of making a few Burger King runs, but beyond that, my family stays indoors.

I recently folded my poker table up and will likely put in some furniture and install a TV stand and start the video gaming in my now defunct poker room. Will keep the chip displays to keep that glimmer of hope...
 
Home game gone for me! :(

To keep in line with the thread, I ran a game at the end of February I think.
March 12th, that was the last in person home game I played in and since picking up my kids on the 13th I've only left my house once.

I expect it will be some time before I play in another. Last night on Discord during my weekly P* league game (continued from in person) someone joked that our annual end of summer tournament will need to be virtual :(
 
Home game gone for me! :(

To keep in line with the thread, I ran a game at the end of February I think.
Middle of March here. The day we learned we were going on unemployment for the forseeable near future, we played that night to celebrate having some time off work. I will try to get a game together the night before we go back to work (I work second shift so Sunday night games happen from time to time)
 
According to the best information available to the CDC, no one has died from the Coronavirus in Washington County and more importantly, the two cases they identified have recovered.

What is the basis for your assertion that I am "increasing the risk for all parties involved?"

The basis for my assertion is the massive pandemic that's sweeping the world right now, that's ground daily life to a halt in many cases and that's currently threatening the life of about half a dozen of my friends and family.

If you're just going to ignore everything scientists have been warning us about for the past 2 months, be my guest, but don't act like you've got the moral high ground here. This is a pandemic. Don't act like you know more than every expert because you've done a google search and you really want to play cards...

So how long are people supposed to be locked down? And what happens when cases inevitably go up once the lockdown ends? Everyone locked down now is going to be exposed at some point, correct?

I also live far away from cities, and haven’t missed a day of work yet. Granted I’m not playing live games or going to church, but I’m still out there every day. Sometimes I even forget about the virus, those are the good times.

The idea of a lockdown is to slow down the infections, not eliminate them alltogether, so it's at a manageable rate for your local/national health care systems so they can cope.
What you're thinking of is a quarantaine, which is impossible to enforce in this case because a lot of people who are infected don't show symptoms.

Lockdown measures most likely won't be abandoned in one big push either, but step by step, just to avoid the big second wave scenario you're worried about.

Just to illustrate the effect of different measures, this is a pretty good explanation:
And here's why you should implement social distancing before your community's in full pandemic mode: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/opinion/covid-social-distancing.html
And here's the dashboard of the John Hopkins University, just so you can all keep track of what's happening: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
 
Switzerland is in a lockdown since 16 th March. 5 weeks after, the daily reported cases are bellow the ones reported when the lockdown was implemented.

We are currently planing the return to normal in 4 phases.
By the end of the month all normal medical activities will resume along with businesses like hairdressers and garden centres. Children should be able to return to compulsory schooling from May 11th along with the rest of retail activities.
(sanitaire measures to be applied still to be communicated such as number of people allowed in a store and in masks are recommended or mandatory)

From June 8, higher education establishments, divertissement, bar, hotels , museums, zoos and libraries will open, providing there is no resurgence of the coronavirus pandemic in the country.

Resuming flights and large events (like concerts, festivals, fairs, etc) still to be scheduled, however most large festivals that were supposed to happen this summer (June - August) have already announced that their are cancelled.

For poker it means that next month, only cash games could happen compliying with the restrictionas to max 5 people. Small tournaments could be organized as from June, if the situation continues to evolve positively.


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Switzerland is in a lockdown since 16 th March. 5 weeks after, the daily reported cases are bellow the ones reported when the lockdown was implemented.

We are currently planing the return to normal in 4 phases.
By the end of the month all normal medical activities will resume along with businesses like hairdressers and garden centres. Children should be able to return to compulsory schooling from May 11th along with the rest of retail activities.
(sanitaire measures to be applied still to be communicated such as number of people allowed in a store and in masks are recommended or mandatory)

From June 8, higher education establishments, divertissement, bar, hotels , museums, zoos and libraries will open, providing there is no resurgence of the coronavirus pandemic in the country.

Resuming flights and large events (like concerts, festivals, fairs, etc) still to be scheduled, however most large festivals that were supposed to happen this summer (June - August) have already announced that their are cancelled.

For poker it means that next month, only cash games could happen compliying with the restrictionas to max 5 people. Small tournaments could be organized as from June, if the situation continues to evolve positively.


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...whereas in Sweden...
 
I try to only make one trip off my property per week. Had some chips to get out, coordinated this with other errands. But I was out of Priority Mail boxes.

Get to the P.O. ... No small boxes. The postmaster said he put 50 out the day before, and within an hour someone came in and took the entire stack.

This is what’s wrong with Society.
 
Not to be mistaken with a poker club that continued to have games, because there didn't seem to be much of an issue in their county. :rolleyes:
 
For those that don't want to sign up with the New York Times to read, the article discusses a bridge club in Colorado that became a breeding ground for Covid-19 before it seemed to be much of an issue in that state. A bridge club can be very similar to a poker home game in how the virus spreads.
Did it mention if they were using bridge-size or poker-size cards?
 
Three weeks in to the new routine, our group seems to be enjoying P* with Zoom. We're playing more now than we did before distancing.
 

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