Cheating at 2022 WSOP (1 Viewer)

[upNdown]

They should have ensured all racks had correct chips before starting. If they cannot guarantee that, they have no grounds unless a visual ID was made of the alternative chips being added after the start.

Best practices, sure. But this isn’t a criminal court - I’m pretty sure in their club can do whatever the fack they please.

 

[DeeVee8]

I just want to point out for the record that PCF and/or the chip hobby community is in no way responsible for fraudulent chips being introduced into 2022 WSOP events.

That is all.

I'd wager that PCF'ers would be more likely to take chips OFF the tables.

Here’s the problem, and it’s all WSOP’s making.

They’re forcing tables to break from Paris (YUGE ballroom) and bag their chips and then walk through the Paris and Bally’s casinos to play at Bally’s. Everyone follows one of the TDs in a line, but it’s not like someone is watching players or it’s a tight line. It’s a long unorganized string of players.

It’s beyond easy to walk back to your room with a bag of chips. Like there is absolutely zero way to protect against this.

Someone trying to sneak in chips using this method is the least surprising thing at the WSOP. I’d be shocked to hell if people weren’t already doing it in significant quantities.

Stop moving people between facilities, WSOP TDs. You have many many tables at Paris, where it’s one room, air conditioned (unlike Bally’s which had zero air circulation) and plenty of spare tables.

You could get a chip count at the Paris, then once they get to Bally's count out a new chip stack for them with chips from the new room.

 

[slisk250]

Here’s the problem, and it’s all WSOP’s making.

They’re forcing tables to break from Paris (YUGE ballroom) and bag their chips and then walk through the Paris and Bally’s casinos to play at Bally’s. Everyone follows one of the TDs in a line, but it’s not like someone is watching players or it’s a tight line. It’s a long unorganized string of players.

It’s beyond easy to walk back to your room with a bag of chips. Like there is absolutely zero way to protect against this.

Someone trying to sneak in chips using this method is the least surprising thing at the WSOP. I’d be shocked to hell if people weren’t already doing it in significant quantities.

Stop moving people between facilities, WSOP TDs. You have many many tables at Paris, where it’s one room, air conditioned (unlike Bally’s which had zero air circulation) and plenty of spare tables.

Line? Hahaha. They came through a couple times when I was looting the Ballys chips and were spread out walking through the slots. Not secure at all

 

[doublebooyah85]

Here’s the problem, and it’s all WSOP’s making.

They’re forcing tables to break from Paris (YUGE ballroom) and bag their chips and then walk through the Paris and Bally’s casinos to play at Bally’s. Everyone follows one of the TDs in a line, but it’s not like someone is watching players or it’s a tight line. It’s a long unorganized string of players.

It’s beyond easy to walk back to your room with a bag of chips. Like there is absolutely zero way to protect against this.

Someone trying to sneak in chips using this method is the least surprising thing at the WSOP. I’d be shocked to hell if people weren’t already doing it in significant quantities.

Stop moving people between facilities, WSOP TDs. You have many many tables at Paris, where it’s one room, air conditioned (unlike Bally’s which had zero air circulation) and plenty of spare tables.

I saw them make that walk and thought it was WILD.

 

[bergs]

If it is so easy then WHY is there no listing for these chips in our classified section?

Because they probably read this forum and the penalties for stealing chips from the WSOP are very severe if you enjoy gambling at and staying at Caesar’s properties.

 

[bergs]

They make you move between facilities in the same day?! That’s stupid. They pitched it as a day 1 in Paris, day 2 in ballys sort of thing.

Nope. I was cruising in the 1K freezeout and they moved us 3 hours in, missed half a level. Ballys was so miserable, was almost happy when I busted.

 

[bergs]

Line? Hahaha. They came through a couple times when I was looting the Ballys chips and were spread out walking through the slots. Not secure at all

We got told to make our chips visible at all times and hold our baggies up and don’t stop for anything or put chips in our pockets.

But there were zero people monitoring it, just some TD Yahoo at the front of the line making it sounded like we’d LOVE Bally’s.

 

[Bluegrass Poker]

If it is so easy then WHY is there no listing for these chips in our classified section?

DUH! They don’t want to be called flippers.

 

[slisk250]

We got told to make our chips visible at all times and hold our baggies up and don’t stop for anything or put chips in our pockets.

But there were zero people monitoring it, just some TD Yahoo at the front of the line making it sounded like we’d LOVE Bally’s.

…at least you got a short tour of the Ballys hookers hanging out around there.

 

[bergs]

…at least you got a short tour of the Ballys hookers hanging out around there.

Nah, bro, I was too busy making sure I didn’t separate from the herd and holding my chip bag out so it was visible at all times. Took all my concentration - you know, standard tournament stuff.

So stupid. Soured me from future tournies (but those cash games are fantastic).

 

[Frogzilla]

Solve for why’s “only friends” covered it today before they got into a long, extra inaccurate discussion on the new chips.

Lady claimed she was new and didn’t know the rules.

 

[Legend5555]

Solve for why’s “only friends” covered it today before they got into a long, extra inaccurate discussion on the new chips.

Lady claimed she was new and didn’t know the rules.

I haven't listened yet, what was inaccurate?

 

[Frogzilla]

I haven't listened yet, what was inaccurate?

They were guessing how much chips cost WSOP, and settled on 20¢ each but maybe closer to a penny because of volume discounts

 

[Jeff]

Because they probably read this forum and the penalties for stealing chips from the WSOP are very severe if you enjoy gambling at and staying at Caesar’s properties.

Or members would contact Caesars and narc on them. In concern for the love and integrity of the game.

 

[BGinGA]

^^ History does tend to repeat.....

 

[bergs]

Or members would contact Caesars and narc on them. In concern for the love and integrity of the game.

Actually the guy that did that for the NAGB WSOP secondary tourney knockoffs did it because he worked in the gaming industry and had a close friend that was going to lose his job at Caesar’s if those chips ever made it into an event. Friends before NAGBs, brah.

 

[bergs]

^^ History does tend to repeat.....

Please take this to one of the 21,348 NAGB threads before 2,354 noobs start asking questions.

 

[Budha]

Please take this to one of the 21,348 NAGB threads before 2,354 noobs start asking questions.

What’s a NAGB…?






(Lol)

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

Only DQ’d apparently.
If that’s as far as they take this, her showing up to the main like…View attachment 940818

Did the rules change?
I thought it was a lifetime ban for removing tournament chips from the WSOP.

If she removed them from a previous event…..

 

[ChipEnvy]

Actually the guy that did that for the NAGB WSOP secondary tourney knockoffs did it because he worked in the gaming industry and had a close friend that was going to lose his job at Caesar’s if those chips ever made it into an event. Friends before NAGBs, brah.

Why would a guy at Caesar’s lose his job over something he had no control over?

 

[B.C.]

Why would a guy at Caesar’s lose his job over something he had no control over?

 

[bergs]

Why would a guy at Caesar’s lose his job over something he had no control over?

I suppose someone has to be responsible for the security of gaming supplies. I don’t know if you’ve worked for major US corporations but when really public bad things happen, someone usually gets fired. This is the way (I guess, shrug).

 

[ekricket]

Actually the guy that did that for the NAGB WSOP secondary tourney knockoffs did it because he worked in the gaming industry and had a close friend that was going to lose his job at Caesar’s if those chips ever made it into an event. Friends before NAGBs, brah.

This is true, I also heard this from my cousin who lives in Las Vegas and he heard it at band camp. They were going to fire all of Las Vegas.

 

[DeeVee8]

This is true, I also heard this from my cousin who lives in Las Vegas and he heard it at band camp. They were going to fire all of Las Vegas.

Except her. She stays.

 

[bergs]

This is true, I also heard this from my cousin who lives in Las Vegas and he heard it at band camp. They were going to fire all of Las Vegas.

The guy that talked to Caesar’s about it was one of the least controversial people on the site. Christ, he hosted games using ceramic Nile Club chips that he got cheap because of a misprint.

Maybe someone should ask who thought it was a good idea to ask Paulson to make near perfect copies of existing in-play WSOP secondary tournament chips.

Anyway, he had zero skin in the game with the whole NAGB thing. He did what he thought was right to protect some friends he’d worked with for a number of years. You wanna fault that, I suppose go ahead, but I can’t.

 

[bergs]

This is true, I also heard this from my cousin who lives in Las Vegas and he heard it at band camp. They were going to fire all of Las Vegas.

I don’t believe that your cousin in Las Vegas goes to a band camp, FWIW.

 

[ekricket]

The guy that talked to Caesar’s about it was one of the least controversial people on the site. Christ, he hosted games using ceramic Nile Club chips that he got cheap because of a misprint.

Maybe someone should ask who thought it was a good idea to ask Paulson to make near perfect copies of existing in-play WSOP secondary tournament chips.

Anyway, he had zero skin in the game with the whole NAGB thing. He did what he thought was right to protect some friends he’d worked with for a number of years. You wanna fault that, I suppose go ahead, but I can’t.

I don’t believe that your cousin in Las Vegas goes to a band camp, FWIW.

Dude, I’m trying to help you out here. I tried to get hold of my cousin but all I could get was his neighbor who said he was at camp again but he had heard the same thing from another guy that my cousin was friends with.
Their poker group uses dice chips and interlocking blue chips for hundreds that they got at a yard sale in Georgia so you know they have to be telling the truth and have nothing to gain from supporting your story.

 

[Frogzilla]

Maybe someone should ask who thought it was a good idea to ask Paulson to make near perfect copies of existing in-play WSOP secondary tournament chips.

This is a good point.

And this is my best guess to why they now use exclusive spot patterns, including the tilting 2 color 5v

 

[joepro]

Anyone have cliff notes on the op? The “articles” and twitter posts are wildly inaccurate and confusing. Not to mention all the descriptions of the “side paint!”

 

[bergs]

Dude, I’m trying to help you out here. I tried to get hold of my cousin but all I could get was his neighbor who said he was at camp again but he had heard the same thing from another guy that my cousin was friends with.
Their poker group uses dice chips and interlocking blue chips for hundreds that they got at a yard sale in Georgia so you know they have to be telling the truth and have nothing to gain from supporting your story.

OK, well, that sounds good, I guess.