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COVID-19 (Corona virous) and your home game? (4 Viewers)
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Señor Tony
3 of a Kind
Friends who went private said they regretted it and was not worth the multiple thousands in out of pocket expenses.
We went public for birth of our daughter two years ago too. Mind you we were in and out the same day so didn't really get the full experience to see how it is spending multiple days in shared room. No regrets though and would 100% go public again. Did you stay overnight?
7 month wait for private knee surgery?
My idealistic tax donation to universal health care may come under fire if I even start earning enough for the 1.5% tax to really start to add up to a big number!
Beaniman
Two Pair
Yes
Jon Udell
Pair
Poker rooms will be empty for months. Some folks that never thought about owning a gun are changing their minds... Universal health care doesn't sound so crazy right now.... It would be better to have a President in office with "The Buck Stop Stops Here" resolve. Hoax my ass.
johnjohn
Full House
We played craps and skipped the cigars.
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chicubs1988
Flush
It's a free country, but I recommend playing it safe. I'm currently in self-isolation after a guy who works in my building tested positive on Friday. Apparently he went to the doctor on Monday, but they didn't test him because they didn't have the kits and instead just told him he had the cold. They finally tested him on Friday (he worked all week) after his symptoms got way worse. I've had some minor symptoms, but I'm not too worried. I'm 31, I'm in the military and in good shape, and I don't smoke or have any of the other habits that can worsen the condition. My main concern is that in the event I do have it, I could give it to someone who is way more vulnerable.
This is going to get a lot worse. My buddy is an aide-de-camp to a general who is in command of a large installation and the briefs they are getting are pretty eye-opening. The general consensus among the experts is we failed to contain it when we had the chance, and at this point millions will be effected...The military is no longer prepping for the "if," but rather the "when."
This is going to get a lot worse. My buddy is an aide-de-camp to a general who is in command of a large installation and the briefs they are getting are pretty eye-opening. The general consensus among the experts is we failed to contain it when we had the chance, and at this point millions will be effected...The military is no longer prepping for the "if," but rather the "when."
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BonScot
Straight Flush
Opposite for me. It’s a brilliant innovation. Was voted the best British invention of the 20th century. It’s underfunded in certain areas as one political party is trying to get rid of it in favour of private healthcare.
Señor Tony
3 of a Kind
DerberAlter
Flush
I stopped playing and running live poker games
BonScot
Straight Flush
I’m setting up an online game for all euro members here...
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/eurozone-online-game-sign-up-here.54062/
*Not exclusive to euro members but we’ll be playing at a time that might not be suitable for North American members.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/eurozone-online-game-sign-up-here.54062/
*Not exclusive to euro members but we’ll be playing at a time that might not be suitable for North American members.
Jake14mw
Flush
So, now my thoughts are turning to what we will be doing once our games start up again. It’s a little pointless because there will be much more information available by then, but my mind gets racing on this stuff.
So, I think what we do know is that once it is deemed “safe enough to play”, the virus will still be around. So, what I want to discuss is what can be done with the way our games are run to minimize the chances of spreading the virus.
I am far from an expert in any of this. Just trying to start some conversation. Firstly, playing on-line with your poker group is the only responsible way to go right now. I hope someone can compile the best places to do this in another thread. I know nothing about it.
In order to figure out ways to change your game in the future to lessen the risk, we need to understand what are the risky parts of hosting a game. I am going to make up some numbers for the sake of discussion. Let’s say a social activity riskiness scale goes from a 0 of complete isolation, up to 1000. Say going to a crowded nightclub is a risk of 500 right now. Maybe hosting a home poker game the we did BEFORE was 100. Let’s break down that 100. Airborn transmission risk from coughing, sneezing, etc – 20?, Direct contact including shaking hands -15. Risk from transmission from Cards – 15, chips 15, bathroom – 15, food sharing -10, transmission from other household surfaces – 10. Am I missing any major categories? Do you think I’m way off with any of these numbers? What changes can we make to bring the numbers down?
Airborn, was 20. Only thing I can see that would help is more spacing between seating and asking people to keep a distance from each other socially. Maybe that can bring it down to 15? 10?
Direct Contact was 15. Institute rule – no handshaking, hugging, touching. Brings it down to 5?
Cards was 15. Not sure how much can be done about this. Most of us have numerous decks of cards. Maybe retiring a deck for a night after 20 minutes? Requiring use of hand sanitizer every 30 minutes? Could that bring it down to 10?
Chips was 15. I had an idea on this. Chips do not get passed around. In addition to the normal chips in a game, each player has their own “bank” in front of them towards the middle of the table equal to all the chips in play. Losing chips goes into your bank. Winning chips comes out of your bank. This would probably be too big of a PITA. But this would bring the chip risk down to close to 0.
Bathroom was 15. Get rid of hand towels. Replace with paper towels dispenser. Provide Lysol. Ask people to be careful. Use extra towel to open door. I think still a lot of risk in here no matter what you do. Maybe these measures bring it down to 10?
Food sharing was 10. I think this depends greatly on what you normally provide. If you have people sharing dips or pulling hot dog buns apart with their hands, it’s much higher. Drastically reduce what is available. Provide individual snack size bags of chips, etc. This could bring this down to 2 or so.
Transmission from other household surfaces was 10. This includes doorknobs, counters, remote controls, etc. Being careful here maybe can reduce this to 5?
Together, taking these measures might cut the risk of the game in half (47). What do you guys think?
So, I think what we do know is that once it is deemed “safe enough to play”, the virus will still be around. So, what I want to discuss is what can be done with the way our games are run to minimize the chances of spreading the virus.
I am far from an expert in any of this. Just trying to start some conversation. Firstly, playing on-line with your poker group is the only responsible way to go right now. I hope someone can compile the best places to do this in another thread. I know nothing about it.
In order to figure out ways to change your game in the future to lessen the risk, we need to understand what are the risky parts of hosting a game. I am going to make up some numbers for the sake of discussion. Let’s say a social activity riskiness scale goes from a 0 of complete isolation, up to 1000. Say going to a crowded nightclub is a risk of 500 right now. Maybe hosting a home poker game the we did BEFORE was 100. Let’s break down that 100. Airborn transmission risk from coughing, sneezing, etc – 20?, Direct contact including shaking hands -15. Risk from transmission from Cards – 15, chips 15, bathroom – 15, food sharing -10, transmission from other household surfaces – 10. Am I missing any major categories? Do you think I’m way off with any of these numbers? What changes can we make to bring the numbers down?
Airborn, was 20. Only thing I can see that would help is more spacing between seating and asking people to keep a distance from each other socially. Maybe that can bring it down to 15? 10?
Direct Contact was 15. Institute rule – no handshaking, hugging, touching. Brings it down to 5?
Cards was 15. Not sure how much can be done about this. Most of us have numerous decks of cards. Maybe retiring a deck for a night after 20 minutes? Requiring use of hand sanitizer every 30 minutes? Could that bring it down to 10?
Chips was 15. I had an idea on this. Chips do not get passed around. In addition to the normal chips in a game, each player has their own “bank” in front of them towards the middle of the table equal to all the chips in play. Losing chips goes into your bank. Winning chips comes out of your bank. This would probably be too big of a PITA. But this would bring the chip risk down to close to 0.
Bathroom was 15. Get rid of hand towels. Replace with paper towels dispenser. Provide Lysol. Ask people to be careful. Use extra towel to open door. I think still a lot of risk in here no matter what you do. Maybe these measures bring it down to 10?
Food sharing was 10. I think this depends greatly on what you normally provide. If you have people sharing dips or pulling hot dog buns apart with their hands, it’s much higher. Drastically reduce what is available. Provide individual snack size bags of chips, etc. This could bring this down to 2 or so.
Transmission from other household surfaces was 10. This includes doorknobs, counters, remote controls, etc. Being careful here maybe can reduce this to 5?
Together, taking these measures might cut the risk of the game in half (47). What do you guys think?
Klobberer
Full House
One of my regulars just called and begged me to host again next week! I'm thinking about it...
1A25R
Flush
And one day, history books will say that a great nation was wiped off from earth because gamblers were unable to stop playing a card game for a month
FYPAnd one day, history books will say that a great nation was wiped off from earth because gamblers were unable to stop playing a card game in person for a month
And one day, history books will say that a great nation was wiped off from earth because gamblers were unable to stop playing a card game for a month
I am doubting the public's ability to stay home for an extended period of time. It won't be just poker players...
Right. No one want to get anyone sick but this quarantine is affecting some people's ability to earn income and put food on their families table. If that isn't addressed you're going to have issues.
It's a guesstimate of the worst case scenario if it runs rampant and unchecked or the draconian and fairly extreme measures we're going through now to blunt the brunt of the blow. Both are going to hurt and it's up to the people in charge to figure out which will hurt more and do the other.
A lot of us have decide to stay home and basically work from home for the next few weeks. This is different for everyone and all are free to do what they wish, but social distancing and helping others is the least we can do to help...again, to each their own. Has anyone tried setting up CASH games via either PS or any other site? any reviews out there for such products and services? I don't mind trying a few to see what works for our needs, but it should be nice to kill our free time being able to play a little as well. Life is too short and all the panic is giving people added anxiety... and no live sports!!!
Jake14mw
Flush
I hope you're doing well, my friend! And I agree with you 100%!
Regarding virtual poker, I'm trying to set-up a game using the pokerrrr2 app, which is super customizable. It will be a Hold'em MTT and if it works well, I'll replace my next couple live games with it. I'll let you know how it goes IF I get the game going.
As far as P* is concerned, I'm not a fan at all for home games. The customization is terrible for tourneys (IMO of course). Or at east it was last time I play there with some PCF folks.
Moxie Mike
Full House
Yeah there's only so much you can do with it - and running a cash game is simply out of the question.
But it's a decent option for what is essentially a free service. They have about 10 different game options, different blind lengths, different rebuy/add on/betting structure formats, and the software is reliable. I wouldn't love it if I had to pay for it, but it's better than nothing.
Did not mean to ding P* games (although Im sure that's what it sounded like), so apologies. I am looking to replace my league games using a similar structure and that platform does not allow me to do that.
Yes, when PCF started hosting games on P* a few years back, I was one of the first to jump in. Ultimately, for my taste, the tourneys were too quick (again, in my opinion), not allowing for good play. Different strokes for different folks.
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Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
7 deaths on a cruise ship from coronavirus. Seven.
0 deaths from the flu. Zero.
I'm not saying that Covid-19 is dangerous to healthy younger individuals, but to say that it is nothing is ignorance. To say "use common sence if you feel sick" is also speaking out of pure ignorance. The average person is contagious for 4 days without symptoms.
Have your game, or dont. But make sure if you attend, you are putting any elderly people you come in contact with over the next 4 days at risk. I don't come in contact with the elderly, because my work has changed protocols so that I wouldn't come in contact with them unless the patient is critical (CPR in progress).
People need to stop pretending this is nothing. 2500+ people are dead in Italy because everyone thought it was no big deal, and they could fight it with common sence.
Jake14mw
Flush
A bigger point is, it's not just the elderly that YOU come in contact with. It's the person you hand your credit card to, who then passes the virus to their friend who has an elderly mother. In my case, if I pass it to my daughter, and she passes it to her boyfriend, he has a mother going through chemo right now. She could die because I don't want to be inconvenienced and want to play poker. His mother is counting on EVERYONE to help keep her alive. Try not to be selfish folks.
Also, it's not just people dying. It's the entire economy. If everyone is careful now, we can slow things down enough to be able to resume work faster and get people's jobs back.
12thMan
Full House
I also think about this whenever I hear someone saying that, not to pick on Honda and not to say staying home if you are sick isn’t a real good idea, but yeah I do wonder if the people saying it realize that that isn’t going to do much to stop the spread for a lot of cases. The whole “walk around with it for an average 4-10 days with no symptoms” is exponentially more scary to me than people walking around sick.
1A25R
Flush
@Poker Zombie It's true that an estimate of 60 percent of all Americans (include the elderly) have at least one chronic health condition, and 40 percent have more than one ?
(Heart disease, cancer, diabetes , etc ? )
(Heart disease, cancer, diabetes , etc ? )
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
All the nursing homes in my town are on strict lockdown. Even fire/medical personnel cannot enter without escort, unless the building is on fire. They want to make sure the residents are cleared out of the way on our way to the patient we are there to treat.
You can feel perfectly healthy, still having the virus and transmitting it, for up to 14 days before you fall ill
That's the "telltale" feature of a pandemic virus.
That's the "telltale" feature of a pandemic virus.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
Dibbs on chips.
Yeah, the guy is really old
. I couldn't believe it till I saw it with my own eyes, on a pic from a meet-up.Otherwise, he sounds like 25-smth-ish, on the 'net.
(Still honestly like @BGinGA and hope he enjoys my sense of humour)
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