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COVID-19 (Corona virous) and your home game? (4 Viewers)
- Thread starter Jake14mw
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Well, my first opinion was early on, and like many, I’ve seen the situation change. And my opinion has changed with the situation. I would no longer host a game at this point. I think to do so would be foolish (just me).
That said, I’m still “hopeful” that in 6 months we will look back and find this was less serious than some have claimed. But I think we are ALL hoping that, right?
Stay safe and healthy everyone.
That said, I’m still “hopeful” that in 6 months we will look back and find this was less serious than some have claimed. But I think we are ALL hoping that, right?
Stay safe and healthy everyone.
My cash game game group is still playing. Played twice this week and another game set for tomorrow. Two of the players are doctors. My wife asked me to drop out so I did. 
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No doubt the response to this virus has been a massive humanitarian failure. On the other hand the response from the scientific and medical community has been incredible. Open access publications to everything about COVID-19:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus
Tarheel4Life
3 of a Kind
I don’t have statistics other than conversations with 2 friends in the healthcare space and both indicated that their biggest concern right now is that nearly every patient gets intubated for the reason you stated - and they don’t have sufficient PPE (personal protection equipment), so the act of intubation puts them at significant risk with a possibly infected patient.
Looking back, I wonder (hope?) if I was confusing supplemental oxygen with intubation. The one I was certain of was that patients that could be on ventilators didn’t fare well.
Yeah, 100% of admitted patients with COVID-19 will be placed on some form of O2 - otherwise they probably wouldn't need to be hospitalized.
You're right. Every intubation in the ED at my health system is treated like a COVID-19 intubation right now (requires LOTS of PPE and a specific filter for Bag-Valve Mask oxygenation). These supplies are low nationwide unfortunately.
You're also right about patients placed on ventilators not faring well as well - that is largely true in most disease states though
I DO NOT think that most admitted patients will require intubation though. Had a hard time finding a specific cumulative stat in all the articles I posted, but I'd guess its closer to 25% than 75%.
No argument from me that COVID sucks, just wanted to discuss that one point because it would be news to me. I'm trying to stay on top of things and didn't want to miss something new
You're right. Every intubation in the ED at my health system is treated like a COVID-19 intubation right now (requires LOTS of PPE and a specific filter for Bag-Valve Mask oxygenation). These supplies are low nationwide unfortunately.
You're also right about patients placed on ventilators not faring well as well - that is largely true in most disease states though
I DO NOT think that most admitted patients will require intubation though. Had a hard time finding a specific cumulative stat in all the articles I posted, but I'd guess its closer to 25% than 75%.
No argument from me that COVID sucks, just wanted to discuss that one point because it would be news to me. I'm trying to stay on top of things and didn't want to miss something new
Meddler2
Full House
So what's a good platform to host games on-line? Zoom seems pretty amazing but not practical for games. Any cross-platform iOS/Android apps? Xbox?
MrCatPants
Full House
It's impossible - the data is bad. We weren't testing and now we are testing more. The rise in cases is likely more attributable to increased testing that speedy spread.
The rise in cases is likely more attributable to the exponential rate that this virus spreads. Yes we have tested more, but not an exponential amount more. I doubt that it is impossible to generate a range:
You could go back and look at deaths and hospitalized cases at that time and use an estimated case-fatality percentage and hospitalized percentage from previous data. I don't think we were missing that many cases of deaths and hospitalized patients one week ago - these patients generally would have meant the CDC's original criteria for testing.
MrCatPants
Full House
Agree with you that the deaths are a solid number. Just saying if anything theres a ton more cases that are around/have already passed asymptomatic/unreported.
No doubt there are more overall documented cases because we are testing more, but I don't think it is the main contributor to why the numbers are jumping the way they are. It's still very hard for most people to even get tested. It's annoying and misleading that all these asymptomatic NBA players are getting tested at all.
I'm dreading next week here in VA. I hope I'm wrong.
Do you know how many we have tested since last week?
As of a week ago we had only tested about 7,000 total and at that time the number of cases were 2,900. Now we're +24,000 cases today. South Korea was putting out 10,000 tests a day so if we could even manage just half as much that'd mean 35,000 tests newly completed in the last week. I would consider a nearly 440% increase in testing fairly significant. Again I don't know the numbers so just wondering if you have seen any figures.
State and federal health professionals said earlier this week that from Wednesday into this weekend as the US was able to play catchup, they expected a spike. It's impossible for either of us to say for sure its one way or another without knowing the amount of catch-up tests being done and how many of those came back positive .
Haha yes I know....that's why I asked the question on this thread if anyone had some sources. Please refer to post #349...I do not know the number but someone does.
I can tell you anecdotally what I have seen in the past week....we haven't had that significant of an increase in amount of tests available.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-testing
Says 103,000 in the US as of yesterday, Not enough information to tell which were backlogged and which were new cases though...so even with that it's still not appropriate to assume whether or not the increase we're seeing is related to the backlogged tests or not but at a 1,000-1,300% increase in testing it seems likely it is.
That’s encouraging. I would not assume either way. Deaths and death rate (which is dropping, could be due to increased testing) are more telling anyway. Has stayed at roughly 50 new deaths per day over that past 3 days. That’s also encouraging.
ekricket
Royal Flush
Just speculating here, but as more and more tests are performed, and as they start to get quicker results from more tests you are going to see jumps just in detection - which is not necessarily the same as infection rates, it’s more of a detection rate.
Are you suggesting that the reported numbers are greater than the number of people tested?
I just don’t see how you can have reported cases without testing. If you do then your data is suspect. Every positive case should have a test behind it, but you seem to suggest that the numbers (not the infections) are increasing faster than the testing?
Yeah that's a really good sign especially since it's the only close to exact number we have on this.
Agree with everything you said. No I didn't mean to suggest the # of tests is less than the # of people being tested. I agree that wouldn't make sense. I think I am in my mind making an overall assumption based on positive tests and how that likely corresponds to a much higher prevalence at a given time given multiple factors.
Overall, I don't even care that much about just the number of reported cases. I care much more about the deaths and hospitalizations.
Yeah that's a really good sign especially since it's the only close to exact number we have on this.
Death rate is still at 1.4% based on yesterdays's numbers (but likely lower today, woohoo!)....still bad though overall if we aren't actually "flattening the curve" which is really all I want to know.
EDIT: Thanks for the source btw. very helpful
My group is using PokerStars home games and Zoom. It worked pretty well.
ekricket
Royal Flush
Anybody have any info on US hospital admittance rates? I think everyone can agree this is a critical point in our responses to this, but haven’t seen any data on how hospitals are doing. Plenty of info on how grocery stores are doing, think we have enough of that.
here’s a link to the CDC info page, this graph was interesting from it
Couldn’t paste the graph, this is the title
COVID-19 cases in the United States by date of illness onset, January 12, 2020, to March 18, 2020, at 4pm ET (n=2,267)**
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
here’s a link to the CDC info page, this graph was interesting from it
Couldn’t paste the graph, this is the title
COVID-19 cases in the United States by date of illness onset, January 12, 2020, to March 18, 2020, at 4pm ET (n=2,267)**
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
These little guys sittin here all lonely, haven’t been fondled for over a week.
I play in two different local games. One is a 12 to 14 player $50 tournament on Wednesday's followed by a $1/$2 NLHE/NLOmaha-hi cash game. The players are 35 to 75 years in age. The second one consists of mixed games with .50/.50 blinds and is attended by younger players in their early to late twenties and two senior players ages 41 and 51.
The latter group no longer gets together on a regular basis due to the economic insecurity of a few players who rely on seasonal work or odd-jobs to pay the bills. To compound matters, in the last two years three of our regulars have moved after finding employment in other parts of the state.
Last night I played cards, six handed, with the younger group of players. The youngest member (who is 23 and finishing his senior year in college) told me he is concerned about the spread of the virus and the impact it will have on our economy. This is the first time I have heard anyone at the poker table talk seriously about the effects and long term consequences of the virus.
The latter group no longer gets together on a regular basis due to the economic insecurity of a few players who rely on seasonal work or odd-jobs to pay the bills. To compound matters, in the last two years three of our regulars have moved after finding employment in other parts of the state.
Last night I played cards, six handed, with the younger group of players. The youngest member (who is 23 and finishing his senior year in college) told me he is concerned about the spread of the virus and the impact it will have on our economy. This is the first time I have heard anyone at the poker table talk seriously about the effects and long term consequences of the virus.
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Jake14mw
Flush
Interesting update... One of the players that was scheduled to come to my Friday game that I cancelled was on vacation a week ago with someone who has just tested positive. He seems to feel OK right now. Too early to know whether he is going to be tested.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
Covid had just spiked it's out. Good thing you wisely folded. In the tournament of life, there are no reentries.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
The problem with an unlimited entry period but no reentries.In the tournament of life we also all get busted out eventually
Lol I suppose
Klobberer
Full House
Name the movie...
Do you fear death?...
...Why? It's something all men before you have done. All men will do.
Do you fear death?...
...Why? It's something all men before you have done. All men will do.
johnjohn
Full House
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